Daniel Anix Presents: The 20th Anniversary of UPick Game

[jjh927]

So are you a redirector (you changed wepick's ability)

or

a deflector (you changed an ability that targeted wepick)

I don't want to get in trouble for quoting the wrong thing. But I can safely say that 1) I targeted WePick. 2) I learned they were targeted with a kill. Under your definitions, I'd be a deflector.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

alright cool we roll

VOTE: HEM

[WePick]

Somehow I missed that clarification.

Either way, everything else I said holds true, just change who the confirmed slots are.

- Rat

[AniX]

Official Vote Count [4.3]

With 7 players, it takes 4 to Ban. Deadline: (expired on 2024-05-22 11:11:11).

yeet

humaneatingmonkey:

3 (WePick, jjh927, PookyTheMagicalBear)

not voting [4]:

The Cabal, Dannflor, halfasleep, humaneatingmonkey)

Notes

[jjh927]

Actually

VOTE: [/unvote]

Can we maybe get a little more clarification on Dannflor's role before moving forwards

[jjh927]

Dannflor wasn't voted in day 2, but was in day 3- correct me if I am wrong?

[The Cabal]

Good morning.

Didn’t we just do this.
Goddamn, give it time.
I wanna hear more and consider and deliberate and so on and so forth.

-Bell

[The Cabal]

Jjh got targeted by a kill?

-Bell

[WePick]

VOTE: dannflor

Here's Dannflor getting voted D2

- Rat

[WePick]

Jjh got targeted by a kill?

-Bell

Apparently, it seems like we were the actual intended target, and that got redirected to jjh by zefiend, which then got redirected by jjh onto Delinquent AniX. I'd missed the bit where zefiend claimed to have deflected a kill off of us.

- Rat

[The Cabal]

Can’t the redirect go back to the original shooter. It said it was random.

-Bell

[WePick]

Somehow I missed that clarification.

Either way, everything else I said holds true, just change who the confirmed slots are.

- Rat

- Rat

[jjh927]

Did dann clarify whether self voting did the thing?

[The Cabal]

Oh.
Look just, I don’t wanna do the thing where we kill HEM and then if you’re wrong we have to kill you for playing below grade level standards.

Let people chat. Your guilty is noted and I promise this isn’t a power trip, I just don’t want to lose all control of this game and go automatically down the list. When the list is largely generated by one player.

-Bell

[WePick]

my role effect changes based on whether i get voted during a day phase, that is why I started D1 self voting, I didn't think to ask whether self voting counts

oh, that might mean it does work like any other vote then

I'll get back to you

skygazer you got correct info that self-voting is not beneficial in that self-voting basically deactivated my role for N1

- Rat

[The Cabal]

I think I’m going to ask all the heads to give a take here. See if we can find the right path. Even if the right path is sheeping.

-Bell

[WePick]

Oh.
Look just, I don’t wanna do the thing where we kill HEM and then if you’re wrong we have to kill you for playing below grade level standards.

Let people chat. Your guilty is noted and I promise this isn’t a power trip, I just don’t want to lose all control of this game and go automatically down the list. When the list is largely generated by one player.

-Bell

I'm alright with this. Don't mistake my certainty for impatience, I'm fine to take as long as it needs to. I apologize if I'm coming off as too forceful, I'm just trying to be as clear as I'm allowed to be and remove any lingering doubts people have. There need be no rush, so long as we are not led astray.

- Rat

[jjh927]

So, should wepick's result in N3 have returned a 0?

[The Cabal]

Dannflor's alignment technically isn't confirmed, but the ability is heavily implied to be from Skygazer's information lining up, and it feels like a very Town role.

We also got an oracle result that said that everything that Dann claimed about his role day 1 and day 2 is truthful. Which means that 539 has to be truthful.

(Also, JJH and Skygazer, but skygazer is dead and basically everything JJH claimed has been proven already).

[jjh927]

Ah, it's if he's not voted. All good

[The Cabal]

So, should wepick's result in N3 have returned a 0?

My understanding was the dann makes things come back a zero if he is not voted. Self voting counts.

Dann was voted every day.

[jjh927]

Next consideration. Everyone targeted the same person in n1, but also Dannflor believes he must have been targeted or my day action would have failed

Did wepick target someone in day 1?

[jjh927]

night 1 I mean

[The Cabal]

The funny thing is, we don't even need our own reasons for it to be apparent that HEM is scum. Even just his posting here is enough.

D1, basically everyone thought he was sketchy because of interactions Re:Cabal
D2, there's no kill and he immediately starts spinning up bullshit about ITF's personal ability being the factional kill. Regardless of why there wasn't a kill N1, that's a bit of an odd conclusion to jump to, is it not? He also expresses concern about his flavor being known, while we have confirmation from AniX that flavor influences alignment.
D3, he gets a free pass because a negative utility red herring role does its job and the day ends basically immediately.
D4, he finally claims, as The Red Crown. AniX tells us like picks are likely to be aligned. ITF's role was The Color Red. Notice any glaring similarities here?

And also... who else even COULD be scum here? The Cabal is cleared by Skygazer, who flipped blue. Dannflor's alignment technically isn't confirmed, but the ability is heavily implied to be from Skygazer's information lining up, and it feels like a very Town role. jjh got targeted by a kill. So that leaves Pooky, us, and HEM. We can afford to just go down the list at this point.

6:1 mislim HEM > 4:1 mislim us > 2:1 > Whoever's left, eliminate Pooky.

But actually it's even safer than that! As long as no one votes for Dannflor, no night actions happen, meaning no kills, meaning two extra days. HEM is claiming the ability to make himself unblockable, so he should get top priority here to prevent him bypassing Dannflor's prohibition.

Any questions that aren't baiting us to break restriction?

- Rat

This post forgets halfasleep, but I am leaning town on halfasleep.

Still talking to other heads

-Luke

[The Cabal]

Essentially on N2 it's just an all roads lead to rome situation

Yes, I was also exploring the possibility that everything ended up targeting D. Anix, which is why I was trying to figure out if wepick's result that led them to thinking they had a guilty on zefiend would make sense if they had targeted anix without knowing.

The only other person I think eligible as "was targeted by everything at some point" is actually you (from our PoV, I know you said that you would have been told if you got targeted multiple times).

-Luke