Shell Game (Night 4)

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I got you csf

VOTE: cakez

[Cat Scratch Fever]

do you think me being emotionally detached is scum indicative

o shit that's a good post

i do think it's scum indicative but the way dann is going around it kinda makes me think no

can you explain more why you thought it was scum indicative initially and why that's a good post

Well, the way you're replying makes me think you're legit beliving in your own towniness, and

also i just don't think you play around me like that as scum? Of course you might know how to pocket me but whatever

i originally viewed it as scum indicative cause it felt like as town you weren't really trying to hide your emotions so much? it's a bit of just me and my big mindset theory which is slowly crumbling each time i'm wrong, idk, think i'll go back on that read if stuff changes

Gypyx, do you think Dann and Spiffeh would be playing around you specifically this game, given how many other more vocal people are in this list ?

I noticed you used a similar argument with Spiffeh - "Spiffeh is scum because he would say this specific thing to deliberately pocket me in particular" but I'm not sure I buy that you truly believe that.

I'm a slot that usually lives to ELo, i think my opinion is pretty important to the scumteam

i do agree that point wasn't a masterpiece though, kinda my brain running on an ego theory

I actually like this response

[Dannflor]

i think that sort of self-centeredness tends to be towny

[Firebagel]

Gypyx, do you think Dann and Spiffeh would be playing around you specifically this game, given how many other more vocal people are in this list ?

I noticed you used a similar argument with Spiffeh - "Spiffeh is scum because he would say this specific thing to deliberately pocket me in particular" but I'm not sure I buy that you truly believe that.

I'm a slot that usually lives to ELo, i think my opinion is pretty important to the scumteam

i do agree that point wasn't a masterpiece though, kinda my brain running on an ego theory

Huh. As one of those kinda slots too, I find that way of thinking a little weird at this early stage of the game, especially with what seems to be a significant number of people currently willing to vote you.

[Hermit Crab]

@fairy

I am noticing lots of common threads to Yggdrasil, it might do us both some good to flip through some of that game to refresh on those interactions again, (also to remind you that you both were scumreading me until I was clearly obvtown). I really liked bingles posting today, it’s got that townie site of not giving a fuck.

Pooky is town. I’m be neher been confident reading him before but he is super town.

I have more to say but I’ll be in and out

[Hermit Crab]

Also if we’re not scumreading anyone else in my hood that doesn’t look good for cake boy

[morph the cat]

Also if we’re not scumreading anyone else in my hood that doesn’t look good for cake boy

Who's the Bear?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Spoiler:

okay here's my list of things that I think Sunflower posts as town that for Various Reasons I don't think they post as scum

I don't think scum!fireisredsir ever declines the chance to show off their special ability to generate Unique and Towny thought processes for the whole thread to see, which makes me think 221 where he declines to further explain his ActionDan read is a town post

I think 485 is kind of too scummy to be scum. I expect an informed fireisredsir to be averse to posting something like this if people are making accurate meta reads left and right. It's just too blatantly following a scum agenda and complaining about the state of the game. I do see an uninformed fireisredsir making this post regardless because he's disappointed in the quality of people's sorting

i think 671 is a towny impulse to just get all the info out and I think it's kind of a surface-level scummy post that scum wouldn't feel the pressure to make because they figure the info will all come out eventually anyway

I think sunflower wasn't very confident klick was scum until 1247 when Klick insinuated he was very confident Sunflower was scum. Having been on both sides of this interaction before, I think this type of OMGUS instinct comes from town a lot more often than not, and scum!Sunflower would be more likely to keep his cool and keep his options open

there are some posts like 1854 that feel underbaked and kinda surface level scummy. like fireisredsir says something is AI but doesn't elaborate. I don't think fireisredsir would have any trouble pulling a complex towny thought out of this observation, but instead he just leaves it as that which I think is indicative that when he's posting his thoughts they are genuine, towny, half-baked observations

all that being said, I would feel 1000% more confident in my fire read if jupiter started playing

Okay, so here is a question. Actually a series of questions?

Do you think it is correct to eliminate inside or outside the Dethy today?

What are your reads on the 5 dethy members?

I think Klick and Sunflower are town
I think ActionDan is weakly town
I don't really have a read on STD
I think marci is scummy

I don't know if it's correct to eliminate inside or outside the dethy. I think it's probably healthier for the overall game state if it's at least an option to eliminate outside.

what I do know is that I don't want the lim locked between two (imo very strong) players who I also think are town

I can almost feel your frustration at Jupiter not posting because it's stopping you from getting a better read, and I think that's pretty towny

whereas I had a fleeting thought earlier that other people could've been bringing it up to shade

I think the omgus point is kinda valid

I don't really agree with the other points but I don't think it's worthwhile to engage point by point

Anyway i think Dann is one of my strongest town reads tbh. I've mindmelded a lot with his posts; the sunflower read was kind of my hang up but eh

[marcistar]

huh

[morph the cat]

Also if we’re not scumreading anyone else in my hood that doesn’t look good for cake boy

Who's the Bear?

I still assume it's Pooky, but I can read the part in the post I responded to regarding Cakez and the Bear two ways. Your townread there probably clears that up but I want to dot the i.

[Hermit Crab]

Also if we’re not scumreading anyone else in my hood that doesn’t look good for cake boy

Who's the Bear?

If I need to show you him let me know, but he has a foam finger with both of your faces on it

[Firebagel]

i think that sort of self-centeredness tends to be towny

How much pressure do you think Gypyx feels at this point?

[marcistar]

firebagel whos scum

[morph the cat]

Also if we’re not scumreading anyone else in my hood that doesn’t look good for cake boy

Who's the Bear?

If I need to show you him let me know, but he has a foam finger with both of your faces on it

Thanks!

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: gypyx
Kinda like dannnnnns recent posts

Elaborate? scoured his ISO and what i was struggling to put into words is that he sounds very emotionally detached

I'm still interested in potentially pursuing Danny but I felt mollified by his recent posting for now

[Save The Dragons]

The ones where he looks like he's trying

lol dann's a sweaty tryhard as both alignments

As town I expect more I guess and he's he's underwhelming

[Lukewarm]

Did experience make an appearance in the dethy hood?

[marcistar]

yes they've said hi,

pretty sure they have a wildly different timezone from us though

[Save The Dragons]

The game is a lot if weird discussions that don't really mean much to the people not involved

It's hard to assert myself like I typically can.

I believe this as I feel this way as well

Did you have thoughts on Cakez and the "timing" of his response?

Spoiler:

I think the cakez slip is fairly suspicious. I like morph's timing argument. And in addition when you review his posts from this recent burst, whenever he quote responds to someone else, he has done so within 5 minutes and typically within 2-3 minutes. So I get the sense that he was refreshing the thread a lot.

The only time he took ~10 mins to respond was to poiky's accusation.

VOTE: Cakez

I also think it was suspect that Brian Skies didn't react to the cakez thing at all. I think he might've been the only player around the time to post but not comment on it, but instead voted firebringer.

I glazed over it, need to read it again

[Dannflor]

i think that sort of self-centeredness tends to be towny

How much pressure do you think Gypyx feels at this point?

not much

I don't think we've done a very good job building pressure on anyone this game

Firebringer was the closest thing to real pressure but even that was kinda fake

[PenguinPower]

i don't think warmpup felt any pressure

[Firebagel]

i think that sort of self-centeredness tends to be towny

How much pressure do you think Gypyx feels at this point?

not much

I don't think we've done a very good job building pressure on anyone this game

Firebringer was the closest thing to real pressure but even that was kinda fake

What do you make of her 2555?

[Hermit Crab]

While I'm aware that Chuck head played plenty of games with morph before, if you wonderful folks could add some explanation of why some of the past games are mentioned and how they relate to the reads, I would be much obliged. Unless they are hidden on purpose. Then crabshrug

-Herr Mitt

[morph the cat]

The Thumper rule is working overtime today. I'm setting a self-imposed no touching thread rule because I'm REALLY annoyed and jaded right now.

(expired on 2024-05-03 12:20:30)

[Firebagel]

firebagel whos scum

Probably like somewhere in here:

Firebringer
Brian Skies
Gypyx
Spiffeh
Hermit Crab (anonymous hydra)
Save The Dragons
Shello and Goodbye (Ydrasse & skitter30)
experience ActionDan
Sunflower (JupiterXV & fireisredsir)
SirCakez
Klick
Bingle
PenguinPower
Dannflor