veerus 2 (Ripley, ThAdmiral)
Not voting - CarnCarn, axle135
With 7 alive, 4 will lynch before deadline. Deadline is in 6 days.
Yes.axle135 wrote:ThAdmiral posts a very good point, and the people against him don't seem to have a real reason. However, doesn't ThAdmiral's post follow very well Tarhilindur's standard tells?
Agreed. However, if his buddy is reluctant to hammer, that still leaves one reluctant townie.CarnCarn wrote:Alright, at this point, either ThAd is scum and his buddy is really reluctant to hammer, or he is town and both scum are already on ThAd's wagon.
I'm going back and forth on TCS.. I can't decide, but his "gut" vote isn't exactly well reasoned (as by definition). Zazier pushed for the mass claim and provided lengthy reasoning only to vote TA for something relatively minor. In other words, both could be scum. However...Do you think all the ThAd wagoners are town, or do you think there could be scum on the wagon? What are your suspicions of the other wagoners?
It is likely a coincidence. If scum are on the wagon, they didn't really try to bus preferring to vote on a whim since TCS/Zazier votes aren't exactly rock solid.What do you think of the speed with which the wagon built?
It's possible that he's town, one scum is on the wagon and the other is nervous about hammering and hoping a townie does it. With deadline approaching fast that would be a reasonable expectation. It can be tricky to hammer as scum, especially if you haven't previously expressed much suspicion of the player.CarnCarn wrote:Alright, at this point, either ThAd is scum and his buddy is really reluctant to hammer, or he is town and both scum are already on ThAd's wagon.
True, what you say is technically possible, especially given how weak the case on ThAd seems from my view. However, this then suggests to me that one of you or axle135 is hesitant scum, but you both have read pretty protown to me so far, so, from my perspective, I don't think it's really the case here (i.e., I would say the three of us, you, me, and axle, are most likely all town).Ripley wrote:It's possible that he's town, one scum is on the wagon and the other is nervous about hammering and hoping a townie does it. With deadline approaching fast that would be a reasonable expectation. It can be tricky to hammer as scum, especially if you haven't previously expressed much suspicion of the player.
Could the players not presently voting give us some idea of your voting intentions?
veerus wrote:fos: CarnCarnfor creating a counter-wagon.
"Mere days" ... what does that mean? It's wonderfully vague, but I think a reasonable person would think "mere days" meant a very few days, four or five at most and certainly less than a week. Your vote actually came nine days before deadline. But it's not just a question of that, it's also the nature of the vote itself. You'd previously muttered something about a post of ThAdmiral's not feeling quite right to you - so useful to have this totally vague comment in place ready to subsequently fill out, or forget about, according to how things developed. Then once TCS put ThAdmiral at L-2 you were all at once able to work out what it was about ThAdmiral that you didn't like, and it was so overwhelming that you were willing to put him at L-1 on the spot, despite, as you note yourself, the other two voters having voted him with even less cause than you did.veerus wrote:Putting someone at L-1 with mere days before deadline is not scummy.
There is a third option, which is that if you're not interested in playing this game you could leave. Nobody's forcing you to play, and there's never a problem getting replacements on Page 6.TCS wrote:I've been neglecting this game. Please forgive me. Or lynch me. Whichever suits you.
Hm, I forgot I had 2 votes on myself.. pretty sure one of the votes is still left over from the semi-random stage, so lynching me with random votes would be more ridiculous and scummy than anything happening with TA's votes. I shallRipley wrote:veerus wrote:fos: CarnCarnfor creating a counter-wagon.
What do you mean,creatinga counter-wagon? You had 2 votes already. Almost anything CarnCarn could have done was less scummy than voting for you. He could have lain low until after deadline and blamed Christmas commitments. He could have voted one of the players currently on 0 votes - almost bound to be totally useless the day before deadline. He could have posted without voting at all. The only other choices he had that I can see are to vote for you or to lynch ThAdmiral.