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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:06 pm

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So. Now that I have been greenlit to start fully working with you two, advancing the gamestate is warranted. I’ve been putting in a lot of thought about our hood in particular, and I would really love to give a penny for both of your thoughts.

Dunn I always am back and forth on, I believe someone phrased it as he is easiest to read with a moderate amount of experience with him. Gun to my head, I think he’s town. I think his interactions with Oblivion felt town, alongside general good solvey feels.

The mouse feels town, and I don’t think he would be as overtly campaigning to change your read as scum. I think it feels way too transparent and boring, and that scum-spiffeh would much rather be sneaky to get one over then transparently poking and prodding until you guys follow suit, you know?

Bingle is somewhat of an enigma, but bear with me on this one. While I don’t fundamentally trust everything he’s doing, I find that once in a blue moon, these players turn out to be town.

Cakeboy’s entrance leaves a lot to be desired, as we pretty much have all seen. I’m really not loving what Mr. Bear pointed out though.

Katniss is Katniss, and if Cakeboy isn’t scum then I think he is.
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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:07 pm

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I'm going back to homework but I wanted to give you two some thoughts to chew on before I left.
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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:08 pm

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In post 2147, Sunflower wrote: 1) the two situations are not alike at all. that was a mechanical counterclaim. this is there's probably a scum in this group of 5 and two people in it suspect each other

2) it implies that i wouldn't know what a 1v1 looks like if i hadn't just seen one which is vaguely insulting lol

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They're extremely alike, in that the scum player in a deAAAthy is already planning for a 1v1 if/when the sorting eventually occurs or the deathy is narrowed down, and is unable to endgame. In the dream game, your team had to prepare for a 1v1 lest too many people be confirmed town, and so chose to take the initiative. It's plenty alike.

2: Your face wouldn't know a 1v1. No, but seriously, that's not my implication, moreso as "You just got to see needing to prep for a 1v1, so you're more likely to have that recent memory wierghin on you when seeing the deAAAthy as scum".
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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:10 pm

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In post 2150, Hermit Crab wrote:Dunn I always am back and forth on, I believe someone phrased it as he is easiest to read with a moderate amount of experience with him. Gun to my head, I think he’s town. I think his interactions with Oblivion felt town, alongside general good solvey feels.
I think the tell is either nearly or fully reverse-engineered after this game anyways, so I'll burn it.

Extreme cheek is Dunn's towntell. A good example is in the LTO game, where he reverse-engineered Titus' code and started talking to her in it to troll her. I'm seeing that cheek here somewhat, especially in response to being told he's lackluster in the very early sections.
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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:10 pm

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it's a lot closer to being scum in the coalition which i just played as scum, with klick

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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:11 pm

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Should I be treating you as just fire, btw? I've seen hide nor hare of the Juniper Berries.
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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:11 pm

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fairly sure dunn is aware of that pattern already but i think he's town anyway

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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:12 pm

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In post 2150, Hermit Crab wrote: Katniss is Katniss, and if Cakeboy isn’t scum then I think he is.
im not convinced scum is even in our hood. unless its bingle
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:12 pm

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In post 2155, morph the cat wrote: Should I be treating you as just fire, btw? I've seen hide nor hare of the Juniper Berries.
he'll join at some point

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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:13 pm

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In post 2140, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2137, Lukewarm wrote: inevitable 1v1.
Note that they JUST saw this exact scenario as scum in Midscummer's, from Dunn/Gif scum hydra against Alisae/Maria town hydra.
What do you mean?
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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:13 pm

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hey dunny boi how is it going
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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:16 pm

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In post 2149, Firebagel wrote:
In post 2144, morph the cat wrote: I think your wagon is misguided.

What do you think of your wagon (however it's currently configured, since it has changed).
Yeah, misguided is about how I've felt about it too. Luke is probably town. Dragons is kinda hmmmm at this point which is odd, but maybe the specifics of the game are affecting how he's playing. Can't remember if Pooky ever actually voted me or just thought about it but he's probably town. Dunnstral... well, in a vacuum I'd probably be voting there but people like you are townreading him and I'm inclined to listen to that.
You would be voting for me why?
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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:16 pm

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In post 2160, Firebringer wrote: hey dunny boi how is it going
Doing good
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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:18 pm

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VOTE: SirCakez
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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:22 pm

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In post 2152, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2147, Sunflower wrote: 1) the two situations are not alike at all. that was a mechanical counterclaim. this is there's probably a scum in this group of 5 and two people in it suspect each other

2) it implies that i wouldn't know what a 1v1 looks like if i hadn't just seen one which is vaguely insulting lol

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They're extremely alike, in that the scum player in a deAAAthy is already planning for a 1v1 if/when the sorting eventually occurs or the deathy is narrowed down, and is unable to endgame. In the dream game, your team had to prepare for a 1v1 lest too many people be confirmed town, and so chose to take the initiative. It's plenty alike.

2: Your face wouldn't know a 1v1. No, but seriously, that's not my implication, moreso as "You just got to see needing to prep for a 1v1, so you're more likely to have that recent memory wierghin on you when seeing the deAAAthy as scum".
OK I can see how they are alike. Are you saying Sunflower is the one who took the initiative in this game?
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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:28 pm

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In post 2164, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2152, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2147, Sunflower wrote: 1) the two situations are not alike at all. that was a mechanical counterclaim. this is there's probably a scum in this group of 5 and two people in it suspect each other

2) it implies that i wouldn't know what a 1v1 looks like if i hadn't just seen one which is vaguely insulting lol

:blossom:
They're extremely alike, in that the scum player in a deAAAthy is already planning for a 1v1 if/when the sorting eventually occurs or the deathy is narrowed down, and is unable to endgame. In the dream game, your team had to prepare for a 1v1 lest too many people be confirmed town, and so chose to take the initiative. It's plenty alike.

2: Your face wouldn't know a 1v1. No, but seriously, that's not my implication, moreso as "You just got to see needing to prep for a 1v1, so you're more likely to have that recent memory wierghin on you when seeing the deAAAthy as scum".
OK I can see how they are alike. Are you saying Sunflower is the one who took the initiative in this game?
I think it's been on their mind all day, and it shapes how they've approached their reads on the rest of their hood.
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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:29 pm

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in what ways does that show itself differently from town trying to find scum?

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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:36 pm

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No Context No Content

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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:36 pm

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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:41 pm

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In post 2166, Sunflower wrote: in what ways does that show itself differently from town trying to find scum?

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You seem very worried about winning a 1v1 with anyone in your hood.

You seem unconcerned with SOLVING your hood.
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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:44 pm

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tbh if i were scum i wouldn't be worried about winning a 1v1 with anyone in my hood

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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:45 pm

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VOTE: Sunflower
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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:48 pm

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In post 2161, Dunnstral wrote:
Firebagel wrote: Yeah, misguided is about how I've felt about it too. Luke is probably town. Dragons is kinda hmmmm at this point which is odd, but maybe the specifics of the game are affecting how he's playing. Can't remember if Pooky ever actually voted me or just thought about it but he's probably town. Dunnstral... well, in a vacuum I'd probably be voting there but people like you are townreading him and I'm inclined to listen to that.
You would be voting for me why?
I don't like the aggressive, wrongheaded positional feeling I'm getting from you, like you want to stir up trouble. It's not at all what I've seen from you as town.
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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:49 pm

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In post 2097, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1872, Dannflor wrote: also i just have this nagging feeling that one of the people pushing action dan for the timeline inconsistency of the cop/miller thing is scum so why not firebringer
Wasn't that only me and Firebringer? And I admitted that it wasn't a smoking gun.
I did as well
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Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Wed May 01, 2024 2:50 pm

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In post 2170, Sunflower wrote: tbh if i were scum i wouldn't be worried about winning a 1v1 with anyone in my hood

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Why not?
In post 2172, Firebagel wrote:
In post 2161, Dunnstral wrote:
Firebagel wrote: Yeah, misguided is about how I've felt about it too. Luke is probably town. Dragons is kinda hmmmm at this point which is odd, but maybe the specifics of the game are affecting how he's playing. Can't remember if Pooky ever actually voted me or just thought about it but he's probably town. Dunnstral... well, in a vacuum I'd probably be voting there but people like you are townreading him and I'm inclined to listen to that.
You would be voting for me why?
I don't like the aggressive, wrongheaded positional feeling I'm getting from you, like you want to stir up trouble. It's not at all what I've seen from you as town.
I'm not sure what you are referring to.

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