No cause I'm townIn post 1847, Thomith wrote:Is that not extremely hypocritical?In post 1845, Hu Tao wrote:Cause I think they are scumIn post 1844, Thomith wrote:In post 1837, Hu Tao wrote:This is what I've noticed this player list does. They just talk about someone and then run them upIn post 1824, Klick wrote: I'm happy to talk to anyone who is interested in talking to me instead of about or around meGrovyle is trying to question you rather than just run you up, and you immediately shut them down?In post 1843, Hu Tao wrote: I'm scum. Remember? Why do you care so much? Or is this for more of your scum soliloquy
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Sure, but Klick is complaining about this, then refusing to acknowledge my responses to their case on me, then Hu Tao also complains about this but shuts you down immediately when you try to do the complete opposite.In post 1849, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote:
ok to be fair I did try to run them up earlier, its more klick's incredulous defense with little reasoning had me change tact.In post 1844, Thomith wrote:In post 1837, Hu Tao wrote:
This is what I've noticed this player list does. They just talk about someone and then run them upIn post 1824, Klick wrote: I'm happy to talk to anyone who is interested in talking to me instead of about or around me
Grovyle is trying to question you rather than just run you up, and you immediately shut them down?In post 1843, Hu Tao wrote: I'm scum. Remember? Why do you care so much? Or is this for more of your scum soliloquy
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I don't necessarily think it means Gibdo is scumIn post 1835, Black wrote:
I'm pretty sure you've accused me of doing this when I was town before. I think this is a go-to read of yours when you don't really like the case but it's not a very good way to catch scum imoIn post 1833, Klick wrote: None of this actually says 'this makes Klick scum' and I don't think Gibdo believes in this as much as he wants to present something that looks competent
But I do think it trends more towards scum behaviour than town
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I can but it'll be super old since I don't have a completed one since I came back to the siteIn post 1854, Hu Tao wrote: Thom can you link a scum game of yours-
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In post 1229, ActionDan wrote: Hold off on that pleaseIn post 1236, RationalMadman wrote: Now real has to CC and the game is going to be so scumsidedIn post 1243, Dannflor wrote: i don't believe the claim
+ it's a pretty low power role anyway so I'm fine with a hammer hereIn post 1251, ActionDan wrote: I still have things to say before this phase is over.
For the claim itself were this higher power I would advocate for a stay. This close but below the cusp so no need to factor in claim. Clearly no one's needs to ccWizard-Mercenary
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I find elements curious.
4 hours for letting player claim?
Ummmm. I mean yeah, then said player rushed to claim tracker.
It feels staged?Wizard-Mercenary
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Lots of people doIn post 1858, Enchant wrote: I find elements curious.
I'm an enigmaI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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Are you referring to both Elements and Dan here?In post 1858, Enchant wrote: I find elements curious.
4 hours for letting player claim?
Ummmm. I mean yeah, then said player rushed to claim tracker.
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In post 1833, Klick wrote: I contrast it with this, which is a big wall of things that just serve to justify a vote that Gibdo clearly already wants to make
None of this actually says 'this makes Klick scum' and I don't think Gibdo believes in this as much as he wants to present something that looks competent
I feel like I laid out pretty clear-cut reasons why your posts would point to scum behavior. I was also reading your predecessor as mafia anyway, for reasons described pretty well in 1493. Besides, if I were scum here, it would make far more sense for me to lurk more than I am at the present moment since I am already being townread by most of the players. I certainly wouldn't feel any particular need to prove myself now.
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NevermindIn post 1856, Thomith wrote: If you still think it will be useful I will-
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I agree. Elements could be scumIn post 1858, Enchant wrote: I find elements curious.
4 hours for letting player claim?
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:eyeroll:In post 1863, Hu Tao wrote:
I agree. Elements could be scumIn post 1858, Enchant wrote: I find elements curious.
4 hours for letting player claim?
Ummmm. I mean yeah, then said player rushed to claim tracker.
It feels staged?I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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All of this, extrapolated from 'Klick townreads Hu Tao and hasn't thoroughly explained it'In post 1827, Gibdo wrote:First, putting Hu Tao in the "Town" category would be a very scary and hasty conclusion for a town-aligned player to reach, especially when you consider the following:
- Dannflor, as the only confirmed town, hard tunneling her in D1 and getting NK'd right after
- She was one of the five players to NOT vote awesomeming after a clear ball drop
- 1774 wouldn't give a decent player enough information at all to read Hu Tao as town, if there's more to your read here Klick then I need to see it.
It's a nothingness and only serves to keep the status quo of myself and Hu Tao being under suspicion
None of the things you bring up here actually give reasons to... not townread Hu Tao. They're all surface reasons one might consider looking in her direction.
I didn't post a case attempting to persuade people that Thomith is scumSecond, after Klick replacing camelCasedSnivy (who was heavily scumread by most of us) and reading up on the game, I don't think a good enough case was presented for Thomith to match such a strong scumread on him. I'd have expected something far stronger than "this doesn't feel genuine" in 1777.
I posted something that looked towny to me from ActionDan but didn't burn that into my overarching view of the gameThirdly, the reads on ActionDan are inconsistent between 1786 and 1793, especially for only being a couple hours apart. It gives the impression that town's favor is trying to be gained by agreeing with him while not actually acknowledging that ActionDan has been consistently making incredibly town-aligned posts.
Like the reason I'm saying I don't believe you really believe this is because it feels like you're getting to 'I don't understand this' and then stopping all thought and concluding I must be scum. There are absolutely questions you could ask to attempt to understand the things you instead choose to make assumptions about here.-
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I'd like to get groyvle eliminated but seems I'm the only one who scumreads them. I'm ok with a Thom or Elements wagon. Anyone?-
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This divide between those who trust Klick and those who don't is interesting.In post 1866, Hu Tao wrote: I'd like to get groyvle eliminated but seems I'm the only one who scumreads them. I'm ok with a Thom or Elements wagon. Anyone?
Hu, are you scum reading Groggy for any reason besides them voting Klick?HI EVERYBODY!-
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Who else besides me trusts klick?In post 1867, DrNickRiviera wrote:
This divide between those who trust Klick and those who don't is interesting.In post 1866, Hu Tao wrote: I'd like to get groyvle eliminated but seems I'm the only one who scumreads them. I'm ok with a Thom or Elements wagon. Anyone?
Hu, are you scum reading Groggy for any reason besides them voting Klick?
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Hmm, good point, it is just you. In my mind there were others when thinking about it.In post 1868, Hu Tao wrote:
Who else besides me trusts klick?In post 1867, DrNickRiviera wrote:
This divide between those who trust Klick and those who don't is interesting.In post 1866, Hu Tao wrote: I'd like to get groyvle eliminated but seems I'm the only one who scumreads them. I'm ok with a Thom or Elements wagon. Anyone?
Hu, are you scum reading Groggy for any reason besides them voting Klick?
No. I scum read them because they feel forced in their way of articulating. Doesn't seem natural.
Also, that sounds like a fake scum read you have there.......you gotta give an example.HI EVERYBODY!-
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I can help with Grovyle!In post 1866, Hu Tao wrote: I'd like to get groyvle eliminated but seems I'm the only one who scumreads them. I'm ok with a Thom or Elements wagon. Anyone?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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In post 1869, DrNickRiviera wrote:
Hmm, good point, it is just you. In my mind there were others when thinking about it.In post 1868, Hu Tao wrote:
Who else besides me trusts klick?In post 1867, DrNickRiviera wrote:
This divide between those who trust Klick and those who don't is interesting.In post 1866, Hu Tao wrote: I'd like to get groyvle eliminated but seems I'm the only one who scumreads them. I'm ok with a Thom or Elements wagon. Anyone?
Hu, are you scum reading Groggy for any reason besides them voting Klick?
No. I scum read them because they feel forced in their way of articulating. Doesn't seem natural.
Also, that sounds like a fake scum read you have there.......you gotta give an example.This progression is terrible. The two ways I read people are giving town on one side and scum on the other. Idk which to listen to
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I finished my reread of Thomith. I still think he's town. Most of his iso reads town to me.
I am that much more confident Klick is selectively trying to find weaknesses to be exploited. For example I know as town and I have a feeling as scum also Thomith will ask a billion questions. I don't really know what he gets out of every single one of them, but probability dictates some will look pointless and empty like the one to elements about ending the day faster.
The other relevant point is the vote switch from Hu to awesomeming. To add to it Thomith had previously townread awesomeming earlier (not mentioned by klick). I'm OK with it. Thomith had claimed he was lost and following your townreads onto a wagon like that is typical. Especially since Dann's progression was one where he had first voted Hu and then voted awesomeming.
I reject any other arguments. Thomith was not bullying Nick's read e.g. or Thomith was staying out of elemnts/RM slapfightI'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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