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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:01 pm

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In post 74, Cee Mirage wrote:
In post 72, imaginality wrote: There's good reason to try to over-hammer in the nights as that will prevent scum from changing the lim target compared to if we end up with wagons of say 7 v 6 and scum switch from who they've promised to vote. Having extra votes on the main wagon will weaken the ability to perform vote count analysis but I think that is pretty borked in this game anyhow.
good point, maybe optimally we all agree to vote whoever had the most votes at the end of the phase

and then scum pretend they counted wrong if anything weird with the flip happened
I'm probably not going to do this, sorry

I'm not even convinced it's the optimal thing to do. If scum change targets to avoid a particular elimination, that's info. And in this hypothetical 7v6 scenario, enough townies would want the 6-vote wagon eliminated anyway so it's not a bad flip
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:22 pm

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In post 73, Cee Mirage wrote:
In post 71, awesomeming327 wrote: Cee Mirage is a town’t
did you realize i said something that seemed like i might suspect you and figure you should say this to make me stop?
of course
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:23 pm

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VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever ez game
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:26 pm

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In post 77, awesomeming327 wrote: VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever ez game
Why?
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:27 pm

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In post 76, awesomeming327 wrote:
In post 73, Cee Mirage wrote:
In post 71, awesomeming327 wrote: Cee Mirage is a town’t
did you realize i said something that seemed like i might suspect you and figure you should say this to make me stop?
of course
oh

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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:04 pm

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In post 51, Cee Mirage wrote: well you apparently agree with light

why would we not declare our voting intent before night ends

normal play allows for a claim, so i think we should try to figure out who is going to be voted out in the day before it happens

would suck if we just voted out all our power roles when we could avoid it
i don't mind declaring intent but i feel like nka can influence votes and people might change their votes based on it.
but then imo in an ideal world, we both declare our intents and then confirm who we voted for the night before and after.
and if anybody changes their vote, we can pressure them to explain themselves.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:06 pm

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In post 68, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I signed up mostly for the troll setup but I won't complain too much if someone else wants to herd cats into voting
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:08 pm

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In post 72, imaginality wrote:
In post 46, experience wrote:
In post 45, light_ganski wrote: yh we claim votes tomorrow and not claiming/fakeclaiming is a policy lim
sounds good to me
There's good reason to try to over-hammer in the nights as that will prevent scum from changing the lim target compared to if we end up with wagons of say 7 v 6 and scum switch from who they've promised to vote. Having extra votes on the main wagon will weaken the ability to perform vote count analysis but I think that is pretty borked in this game anyhow.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:03 pm

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In post 47, Cee Mirage wrote:
In post 44, light_ganski wrote:
In post 12, Cee Mirage wrote: hi i am a mirage so all votes on me are actually on light_ganski
boop why always me
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and why would we wait until afterward to say who we're intending to vote
Not what I'm saying, exactly. Giving intent before is good but I'm not going to policy someone for *changing their mind* provided that they are open about it straight away. I've changed my mind last minute before as town (in fact I think I do it more as town than scum)

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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:03 pm

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ie. Saying you had voted someone when you voted someone else
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:04 pm

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We shld declare intents before the night is over *as well*
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:20 pm

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In post 83, light_ganski wrote:
In post 47, Cee Mirage wrote:
In post 44, light_ganski wrote:
In post 12, Cee Mirage wrote: hi i am a mirage so all votes on me are actually on light_ganski
boop why always me
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and why would we wait until afterward to say who we're intending to vote
Not what I'm saying, exactly. Giving intent before is good but I'm not going to policy someone for *changing their mind* provided that they are open about it straight away. I've changed my mind last minute before as town (in fact I think I do it more as town than scum)

*lying* about your vote is an instant policy lim when it gets found out
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:43 pm

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Is it ever worth declaring night actions?
Like if we split into groups of three and said "we're targeting this player"
Or we could just discuss who particular roles could target?
But I guess that doesn't work becasue we can have multiple of the same roll so that'd lose us equity
I've changed my mind, it's a bad idea
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:47 pm

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After sleeping on it I think I'm down to just not do vote counts

We can all talk about who we want to fade but I kinda wanna see what happens when votes aren't a thing
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:06 am

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Would scum actually vote differently from what they say though
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 4:17 am

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In post 89, awesomeming327 wrote: Would scum actually vote differently from what they say though
The main scenario is obvs if a scumbuddy is being wagoned. They can switch to save. The issue is they can also switch just to create paranoia about the above so that worries ne a bit.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:11 am

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In post 90, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 89, awesomeming327 wrote: Would scum actually vote differently from what they say though
The main scenario is obvs if a scumbuddy is being wagoned. They can switch to save. The issue is they can also switch just to create paranoia about the above so that worries ne a bit.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:26 am

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In post 80, experience wrote:
In post 51, Cee Mirage wrote: well you apparently agree with light

why would we not declare our voting intent before night ends

normal play allows for a claim, so i think we should try to figure out who is going to be voted out in the day before it happens

would suck if we just voted out all our power roles when we could avoid it
i don't mind declaring intent but i feel like nka can influence votes and people might change their votes based on it.
but then imo in an ideal world, we both declare our intents and then confirm who we voted for the night before and after.
and if anybody changes their vote, we can pressure them to explain themselves.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:44 am

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Also if votes did exist right now I'd prolly chuck one on El, it's a hella nitpick but reads as busywork for busywork's sake.

El who would you be voting right now?
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:45 am

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Like El makes these sorta posts all the time tbh but it's the best thing I have to latch onto when most of the discussion so far has just been discussing how we should handle the voting situation.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:55 am

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In post 93, OopsieDaisy wrote: Also if votes did exist right now I'd prolly chuck one on El, it's a hella nitpick but reads as busywork for busywork's sake.

El who would you be voting right now?
Probably you accompanied with a "rude' after you vote me
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:02 am

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In post 95, Elements wrote:
In post 93, OopsieDaisy wrote: Also if votes did exist right now I'd prolly chuck one on El, it's a hella nitpick but reads as busywork for busywork's sake.

El who would you be voting right now?
Probably you accompanied with a "rude' after you vote me
Yea that checks out lmao
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:03 am

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I don't rlly know what to do without voting
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:08 am

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In post 97, Elements wrote: I don't rlly know what to do without voting
Yea that's why I'm trying to start a push on you. Get some action going ykno
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:17 am

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In post 98, OopsieDaisy wrote:
In post 97, Elements wrote: I don't rlly know what to do without voting
Yea that's why I'm trying to start a push on you. Get some action going ykno
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