Mini Normal 2334: trees (Day 6)

[RationalMadman]

so me not dying isn't much relief, just slight.

[KayJayQueue]

Idc if I die or not, my primary issue is making sure that since we wasted the no-elim opportunity, we land on scum and not town.

I’ve never been in a game that had a no-elim vote. I honestly didn’t know that was a real thing that anyone would do.

[Dannflor]

no-elimination is sometimes optimal if there's an even number of people alive to bring the game back to odds, (this is because it's easier to hit scum with an odd number of people alive) or if there has been a mass-claim and night actions can secure a win, but those are pretty niche circumstances

[awesomeming327]

for what it's worth, I think awesomeming's 412 is scummy, it seems overly focused on winning the argument with logic and evidence as opposed to trying to get a genuine read on Rational

I currently prefer to vote Hu Tao but I would mind if awesomeming and Hu Tao were the main two competing wagons

I wasn't aware that there was an argument.

I started off the post with the intention to defend and only got to the conclusion that rational is scummy as a by-product. Getting a genuine read on rational wasn't the purpose I began the post and so that's probably why it seems so

[awesomeming327]

camel what are your thoughts on your wagon

[Dannflor]

I started off the post with the intention to defend and only got to the conclusion that rational is scummy as a by-product. Getting a genuine read on rational wasn't the purpose I began the post and so that's probably why it seems so

ok

i still don't really buy you scum read Rational for the reasons stated

[awesomeming327]

I think the mentality behind 563 and the whole way Hu Tao has approached Rational and the wagon on Rational is scum indicative

I think Rational probably looks the most like untouchable obvious town to scum that are informed of his alignment. All of me, elements, Gibdo and Grovyle have voted Rational or expressed annoyance about Rational while also staying he might be town. We can’t all be scum, and I’d wager the majority of us, if not all, are uninformed of Rational’s alignment and are unable to just do a robotic “yep Rational obvtown time to ignore his posts”

also think she’d probably be more interested in searching for the scum pushing Rational if she indeed thinks Rational is obv town and any votes on him are ridiculous

Unlucky. He is obviously town

This is certainly the "easy" answer but is it the right answer?

[RationalMadman]

no-elimination is sometimes optimal if there's an even number of people alive to bring the game back to odds, (this is because it's easier to hit scum with an odd number of people alive) or if there has been a mass-claim and night actions can secure a win, but those are pretty niche circumstances

That's not even remotely how it works. That's nonsense talk.

[RationalMadman]

I think the mentality behind 563 and the whole way Hu Tao has approached Rational and the wagon on Rational is scum indicative

I think Rational probably looks the most like untouchable obvious town to scum that are informed of his alignment. All of me, elements, Gibdo and Grovyle have voted Rational or expressed annoyance about Rational while also staying he might be town. We can’t all be scum, and I’d wager the majority of us, if not all, are uninformed of Rational’s alignment and are unable to just do a robotic “yep Rational obvtown time to ignore his posts”

also think she’d probably be more interested in searching for the scum pushing Rational if she indeed thinks Rational is obv town and any votes on him are ridiculous

Unlucky. He is obviously town

This is certainly the "easy" answer but is it the right answer?

Yes it is. You know what else is 'easy' hyperfocusing on me when if you were Town you'd have 11 others to be concerned with.

[awesomeming327]

I think the mentality behind 563 and the whole way Hu Tao has approached Rational and the wagon on Rational is scum indicative

I think Rational probably looks the most like untouchable obvious town to scum that are informed of his alignment. All of me, elements, Gibdo and Grovyle have voted Rational or expressed annoyance about Rational while also staying he might be town. We can’t all be scum, and I’d wager the majority of us, if not all, are uninformed of Rational’s alignment and are unable to just do a robotic “yep Rational obvtown time to ignore his posts”

also think she’d probably be more interested in searching for the scum pushing Rational if she indeed thinks Rational is obv town and any votes on him are ridiculous

Unlucky. He is obviously town

This is certainly the "easy" answer but is it the right answer?

Yes it is. You know what else is 'easy' hyperfocusing on me when if you were Town you'd have 11 others to be concerned with.

there is one person that is hyperfocusing currently (hint: it's not me)

[Dannflor]

no-elimination is sometimes optimal if there's an even number of people alive to bring the game back to odds, (this is because it's easier to hit scum with an odd number of people alive) or if there has been a mass-claim and night actions can secure a win, but those are pretty niche circumstances

That's not even remotely how it works. That's nonsense talk.

okay we're going to have to agree to disagree

if you really want we can take this discussion up after the game but there is a wealth of empirical evidence that supports my approach

[RationalMadman]

I think the mentality behind 563 and the whole way Hu Tao has approached Rational and the wagon on Rational is scum indicative

I think Rational probably looks the most like untouchable obvious town to scum that are informed of his alignment. All of me, elements, Gibdo and Grovyle have voted Rational or expressed annoyance about Rational while also staying he might be town. We can’t all be scum, and I’d wager the majority of us, if not all, are uninformed of Rational’s alignment and are unable to just do a robotic “yep Rational obvtown time to ignore his posts”

also think she’d probably be more interested in searching for the scum pushing Rational if she indeed thinks Rational is obv town and any votes on him are ridiculous

Unlucky. He is obviously town

This is certainly the "easy" answer but is it the right answer?

Yes it is. You know what else is 'easy' hyperfocusing on me when if you were Town you'd have 11 others to be concerned with.

there is one person that is hyperfocusing currently (hint: it's not me)

Yes it is. Your only scumread is me in fact that is your only outed read all game.

[DrNickRiviera]

VOTE: CCS

[tris]

prodding SaltiestCactus23

[tris]

VC 1.10

camelCasedSnivy (4):

Thomith 585, Elements 589, Hu Tao 592, DrNickRiviera 662

RationalMadman (2):

awesomeming327 412, Grovyle in a Fedora 417

awesomeming327 (2):

RationalMadman 266, DrippingGoofball 594

Hu Tao (2):

Dannflor 606, KayJayQueue 628

Thomith (1):

camelCasedSnivy 475

Grovyle in a Fedora (1):

SaltiestCactus23 23

Not Voting:

Gibdo 604

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Deadline:

(expired on 2024-04-17 20:15:00)

[DrNickRiviera]

Hi

[DrNickRiviera]

Everybody!!!

I wanted post 666

[KayJayQueue]

Hi Dr Nick

[RationalMadman]

There is no use to delay the vote on awesomeming

[DrNickRiviera]

Hi Dr Nick

Well if it isn't my old friend Mr McGreg...with a leg for an arm and an arm for a leg!

[DrNickRiviera]

There is no use to delay the vote on awesomeming

Except to vote CCS, or Thomith, or Hu

Yes I have turned on Hu

[RationalMadman]

There is no use to delay the vote on awesomeming

Except to vote CCS, or Thomith, or Hu

Yes I have turned on Hu

Who have collectively as 3 had less scumtells than awesomeming alone

[RationalMadman]

I see you scum.

[DrNickRiviera]

There is no use to delay the vote on awesomeming

Except to vote CCS, or Thomith, or Hu

Yes I have turned on Hu

Who have collectively as 3 had less scumtells than awesomeming alone

All according to you?

[RationalMadman]

First member to be eliminated shall be awesomeming, other 2 can be handled later.