Mini 2332: A Mid-scummer Nights Dream II | GG

[Sunflower]

Try as you may, ActionDan cannot be roused from deep slumber.

They were a

Dream Interpreter

of the

Dream Voyagers

.

[Sunflower]

[Sunflower]

i still think it's catgirls but im sort of lost on the second

[Von Payne]

i still think it's catgirls but im sort of lost on the second

This is where I am at

The way yesterday played out I needed to step away from The Von Payne Show last night, didn't really want to think about this game lol.

And my last post yesterday wasn't performative, I just wanted to get it out before I knew the flip......and ya I know I could have posted overnight about it but was kinda something that was just hitting me at that point(and ya, if Kyo did flip scum then I felt like we could very well be the NK)

[Catgirl Chipotle]

We cc Dreamer btw

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Here's how we prove this. We get certain dreams up and Silver/us vote for different things. When we're proven inno we vote Silver.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I have been summoned
sigh

[Silver Ravens]

Okay... so chances are mafia can mess with the dreamer results again today, and that's why Catgirl Chipotle is doing this. This is also the only part they have focused on. They have not claimed who they would have targeted with abilities or what their reasons would be.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Alright, mass claim time since we are in limlo now. We're the dreamer, which makes us town (setup specific rule #1 says the starting dreamer is town). We do reveal a dream once moonrise phase ends, but not before then;

we are working under the assumption that Ydrasse is the other person revealing dreams. This doesn't automatically make them town, but we noted that they learned from their usage during moonrise 1, and during moonrise 2 they revealed roles in a way where we'd be able to see both of the dreams before picking after discard, which seemed town motivated to us. We didn't want to draw too much attention to that, though,

and I've been skeptical of their thread presence a bit.

During moonrise 1 our preferred dream was discarded, and then our revealed dream was a negative which allowed the mafia to steal the dream choice. During moonrise 2, we did choose to discard the dnd dream as Gif and I felt that the interaction between the dead hider and Aureal was unlikely to have been mistaken, and we got greedy for more. We talk about this a bit in 1392 but are trying to not make it too obvious that we are the dreamer with our wording, while keeping our vote on Aureal the whole time. The Superman dream sounded promising so we picked that. We ended up giving the reporter from that dream to Catgirl Chipotle. In hindsight we should have picked elsewhere as we don't trust Catgirl Chipotle right now, but they had rather different opinions from what we have seen from them recently.

Moonrise 3 was really interesting.

Ydrasse revealed the tower after the mafia discarded something else, which was rather towny (without taking into account that the tower was a watcher, which she wouldn't have known)

, but then when the time came for us to make selections, we were told that our choices were hijacked for the phase. So the tower being revealed

again

was not our choice, and the watcher one shot did not go to a target of our choice either - we don't know where it went. We also did not get a choice for the second dream, what Enchant did with the ectoplasmic camera and the reporter dream on moonrise 3; but from the looks of things, that is possibly separate from the hijacking; the reporter dream was revealed and went into effect immediately with no time for anybody to make a selection before the mods moved on to the starting the day.

Twilight 1, reveal Vi Dream, pivot to Sheep dream in panic. Vi dream most likely picks Sheep Dream anyways. Vi isn't a inherently negative dream in this gamestate, it just probably always ends up being sheep dream or slide if wolves don't want to take any chances.
Twilight 2, reveal superman to see if we can get something better than dead neighborizer. We gave the Reporter to Silver Ravens because we thought GiF would use it well. They are now using this knowledge to try to claim early since I think this is how they think they win? Also, you can see my posting during night I handed out reporter, I wrote my posts about the reporter knowing full well the person who (would hopefully read that) would get the memo since they're competent.
Twilight 3, tower gets revealed early, we ask mod if we could just pick tower without revealing anything, there is a slight delay, mod tells us we can reveal teh same dream we want to pick even if it's already revealed, we reveal and choose to hand out tower to Dan. Dan fully know who we were and you can see this in our interactions. We don't need to reveal the other dream because why would we do that when we can put it back into the pool. It's hard to beat a watcher.

Unlucky that the choices ended up happening as they did.

This line of play only works for you if you know there's going to be no invention to hand out during this phase. All I need to do is pick the invention dream, hand it to a villager, and you lose the cc battle. Idunno what your plan is but ig we're about to find out?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

oh von payne's pivots on our slot were pretty obv as well and is part of drew's signature wolf game. ig I'm starting to see the bullshit for what it is.

[Silver Ravens]

So your targets are us who you are ccing and the person who died last night.

Odds are you hijacked our selection and redirected the watcher ability to your teammate instead. And then claiming to have sent the reporter to us is out of convenience.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Dan was well aware that we gave him that by the way, we (or more so I Maria) did an inside joke to Dan about giving the shot over. I guess the only play Silver has is saying scum can mess with dreams but I think anyone who can think over mech for 2 seconds can go:

1) If they could do that they probably would've done it sooner because watcher reporter shots is something you want to mess with.

2) Given we're the of dreamer they would've had the power to get dream choice later so why would they get the chance to mess with it to begin with.

Shrug.jpg

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Talking about a hijack but also stating convenience in the same sentence is really funny.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

No one gets to take potshots at my darling Dan though. This means war. (If Von really is wolfreading Dan I'd like to know why cause they're my personal top TR)

I feel like the Belle at the ball

for the soft in ref btw nj you tried

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I have seen these gamestates a million times.
Usually when it's obvious that there are 2 people that are very much wolves together, going all-in on a cc battle vs 1 player (if you read Raven's post, I think you could figure out they were expecting to fight a CC battle with us), and those players can't make up a story on who that 1 player is teamed with, the 1 solo, individual player is likely just town while the other 2 are just wolves. This is why generally you see a lot of "Well, I think this person is a wolf, but I can't think of who could possibly be the second one!" That would be because there is no second one, who am I partners with? The answer is no one because I'm a villager.

[Silver Ravens]

I think you saying that Actiondan ever hinted at having the watcher is untrue. And them hinting that they thought you were the Dreamer is also untrue. I don't think ActionDan ever did either of these things.

I feel you have been doing a lot of that this game; trying to spin a narrative out of the dead players that is questionable and/or false.

Show your work? Where is Dan "well aware" of anything?

[Silver Ravens]

No one gets to take potshots at my darling Dan though. This means war. (If Von really is wolfreading Dan I'd like to know why cause they're my personal top TR)

I feel like the Belle at the ball

for the soft in ref btw nj you tried

Neither of these are softs. Belle at the ball is not related to towers in any way; they feel like the princess because You say they are your top townread there an we said they were our top townread. Possibly other people as well.

[Silver Ravens]

I have seen these gamestates a million times.
Usually when it's obvious that there are 2 people that are very much wolves together, going all-in on a cc battle vs 1 player (if you read Raven's post, I think you could figure out they were expecting to fight a CC battle with us), and those players can't make up a story on who that 1 player is teamed with, the 1 solo, individual player is likely just town while the other 2 are just wolves. This is why generally you see a lot of "Well, I think this person is a wolf, but I can't think of who could possibly be the second one!" That would be because there is no second one, who am I partners with? The answer is no one because I'm a villager.

We think you are with Von Payne or Sunflower

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I have seen these gamestates a million times.
Usually when it's obvious that there are 2 people that are very much wolves together, going all-in on a cc battle vs 1 player (if you read Raven's post, I think you could figure out they were expecting to fight a CC battle with us), and those players can't make up a story on who that 1 player is teamed with, the 1 solo, individual player is likely just town while the other 2 are just wolves. This is why generally you see a lot of "Well, I think this person is a wolf, but I can't think of who could possibly be the second one!" That would be because there is no second one, who am I partners with? The answer is no one because I'm a villager.

If anyone wants a source just @ me. I've won a game just by creating this situation and winning it.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

No one gets to take potshots at my darling Dan though. This means war. (If Von really is wolfreading Dan I'd like to know why cause they're my personal top TR)

I feel like the Belle at the ball

for the soft in ref btw nj you tried

Neither of these are softs. Belle at the ball is not related to towers in any way; they feel like the princess because You say they are your top townread there an we said they were our top townread. Possibly other people as well.

It's almost like when you make an inside joke you do it in a way that makes the soft not obvious. Should I have probably done an inside joke that no one but Dan could've picked up on? Eh, you can question that later and sorry in advance but if it makes you feel better you weren't winning this anyway.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Our slot isn't gonna turn this into a screaming match let's vote for dream 1/2/6 and then we make a table on who reveals what dream and when ours win their only defense is "You can hijack stuff" but from their own statement we already have.

So we're gonna do it a . . .second time? Now tell me if that makes sense with all the 1 shot roles in the game.

[Silver Ravens]

but I think anyone who can think over mech for 2 seconds can go:

2) Given we're the of dreamer they would've had the power to get dream choice later so why would they get the chance to mess with it to begin with.

This means what? How do mafia get the power to get dream choice later?

[Catgirl Chipotle]

I don't feel like entertaining someone who is just looking to nitpick points in an argument.

Logging off.
Bye

[Silver Ravens]

Moonrise 4's Six Dreams

• A bold knight in shining armor came to fight me. Rescue me. Something like that
  
• The sheer elation of being able to double-jump
  
• My house started flooding while I was watching TV
  
• I met MrBeast on an electric train to the redwoods, and when we got there we lay down in front of a bulldozer to save a tree
  
• Doesn't EVERYBODY hate Trigonometry?
  
• I won the lottery! But so did everyone else... Except those rich jerks.

We should collectively as a town agree on what 3 dreams we want to vote in, and then assign Catgirl Chipotle to 1 choice and us to the other.

I haven't spoken with GiF about dream picks but tentatively the Bold knight, Double Jump, and MrBeast dreams seem the most promising based on name.

It's important to only vote for the good dreams today as mafia can likely influence the results based on Catgirl Chipotle counterclaiming but it will likely have to be inside of the list we choose, so we do still have some influence. And it's important to be united on what we are picking because otherwise mafia can sway things with their own votes.

[Catgirl Chipotle]

Regardless of the 3 dreams chosen here is how it should work:

Cat reveals The top dream
If top is discarded do the next highest dream

Raven Reveals the Bottom dream
If the bottom is discarded reveal the next lowest dream.

Pretty simple. If a villager has any questions let us know but we're both pretty beat up and logging off the night (mood is bad) but ye.