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Post Post #2600 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:41 am

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In post 2599, usesPython wrote: light flipping Rolecop-Finder actually gives more credence to that theory
it's odd we find ourselves in such a similar situation...omg maybe I'm bad :( maybe it's just me :((((
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Post Post #2601 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:44 am

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In post 2596, Political Clout wrote:
In post 2594, usesPython wrote: It's not about your dayplay, we think you're mechanically scum here cause you played how a not-Cop would play and that's way easier to be correct about than trying to read your dayplay
This house thinks that if there are 3 godfathers then mechanically you would want to drop hints that you might be a cop. My not dropping any hints proves that I am more likely to be a cop since I don't know/didn't know the setup. what do you think?
Also missing the point. It's not that you didn't drop hints that you were a Cop, it's that you played in a way that would disqualify you from being a Cop
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Post Post #2602 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:48 am

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In post 2601, usesPython wrote:
In post 2596, Political Clout wrote:
In post 2594, usesPython wrote: It's not about your dayplay, we think you're mechanically scum here cause you played how a not-Cop would play and that's way easier to be correct about than trying to read your dayplay
This house thinks that if there are 3 godfathers then mechanically you would want to drop hints that you might be a cop. My not dropping any hints proves that I am more likely to be a cop since I don't know/didn't know the setup. what do you think?
Also missing the point. It's not that you didn't drop hints that you were a Cop, it's that you played in a way that would disqualify you from being a Cop
isn't that how you play being a cop? or are you talking about how drew might be clear for playing how a "cop would". The only objection I really see is time. me unvoting and going to bed then getting up to revote. What if I flipped cop how would that change your solve?
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Post Post #2603 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:52 am

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If you flipped town then it'd be a POE solve in Black/Hu Tao/Ketchup starting with Black
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Post Post #2604 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:56 am

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In post 2602, Political Clout wrote: isn't that how you play being a cop? or are you talking about how drew might be clear for playing how a "cop would". The only objection I really see is time. me unvoting and going to bed then getting up to revote. What if I flipped cop how would that change your solve?
We're not gonna do more than talk in circles at this point, sufficed to say that we consider you looking at Laps claim and believing it is incompatible with having a Cop PM (and doesn't have the excuse JV did of letting your reads overwrite the mech since you scumread Lap)
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Post Post #2605 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:58 am

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I'll tell you what I'm worried about that black and hu tao are distancing and that you aren't entertaining universes where I'm town and that we might lose because of today. I am also worried that if I'm alive then we lose the game because of ketchup who has it in his mind I'm scum because reasons. so it might be in our best interest to launch me. I hate being launched though. this would presuppose that you're town. although I am using last game heavily to influence that thought. maybe I should just 1v1 you. I think I am pretty sincere and towny. you would have ketchup on your side. then it would just mean I have to convince everyone else. let me think about it more.
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Post Post #2606 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 9:59 am

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The baseline for anyone with more than a few games under their belt looking at a Disloyal Cop claim as a Cop is to think "There is no way this guy's real" and we're not willing to lose this game giving you a pass on that here
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Post Post #2607 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:00 am

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4.01
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Black (1): Hu Tao
Hu Tao (1): Black
Political Clout (1): usesPython

Not Voting (4): ketchup777, Enchant, Political Clout, Doctor Drew

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-03-25 15:49:53).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.
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Post Post #2608 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:00 am

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In post 2606, usesPython wrote: The baseline for anyone with more than a few games under their belt looking at a Disloyal Cop claim as a Cop is to think "There is no way this guy's real" and we're not willing to lose this game giving you a pass on that here
In a questionable almost normal game? it's what all gave me pause about everything.
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Post Post #2609 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:02 am

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In post 2608, Political Clout wrote:
In post 2606, usesPython wrote: The baseline for anyone with more than a few games under their belt looking at a Disloyal Cop claim as a Cop is to think "There is no way this guy's real" and we're not willing to lose this game giving you a pass on that here
In a questionable almost normal game? it's what all gave me pause about everything.
That's the thing though, it's an instinct that happens before the conscious thought of "it's a questionable game", like how uhh if you're flying a plane inverted you have to remind yourself that blue is up instead of defaulting to the baseline of up is up (which would fly you into the ground)
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Post Post #2610 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:04 am

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I think you're right that we reached an impasse. VOTE: usespython I know my alignment I'm not sure of yours. if I have to convince ketchup and everyone else so be it.
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Post Post #2611 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:06 am

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We're town

Talk about your Hu Tao/Black read a bit more?
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Post Post #2612 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:16 am

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I'm stuck tbh. I do need to reread. I remember black sometimes likes to distance from their partner as scum. and If i'm right about how you said since light flipped my theory has a bit more credence that drew might be scum or you might be completely right about drew but that doesn't make sense to me because I'm town.

I think ketchup is town. I think enchant probably lands on town maybe I do think they need to be reevaluated slightly since they aren't conftown but I imagine it's difficult to read a that type of player.

if black is scum then they have equity with hu tao. I think that's where the read lives and dies.

iirc black was town reading hu tao. on something fairly good I think. So I think hu tao is likely town. let me get the quote in a bit.

drew just feels like they are comfortable coasting. and then that leaves you python. pushing me on mech and saying drew is conftown on mech. leaves a lot to be desired imo. feels like an easy to easy of a solve for me.
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Post Post #2613 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:18 am

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In post 1334, Hu Tao wrote: I was so excited for this game since I was finally cop and now I got tricked I feel deflated today ngl :lol:
I think this is what black quoted. but looking at it now It can be made by any alignment. it just feels town to me though. it's a good post. feels sincere and rings true. idk.
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Post Post #2614 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:04 am

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hihi, inno on drew. now it gets seriousssss
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Post Post #2615 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:07 am

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In post 2580, Black wrote: We're 1v1ing. Votes should be between us today
hmm sounds a little artificial/planned maybe but who knows (I know it was mentioned day 3 at some point)
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Post Post #2616 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:08 am

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In post 2588, usesPython wrote: Not hammering is objectively the higher EV play -> Python's not hammering so they look townier

Get better material
yeah I agree, tbh little surprised light didn’t self-hammer but eh
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Post Post #2617 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:09 am

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maybe scum are all Finders for roles that don’t exist in the game, that sounds funnt
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Post Post #2618 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:11 am

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ahhhh I just think Black v likely maffy
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Post Post #2619 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:13 am

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drew and enchant still need to be put under scrutiny thooo
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Post Post #2620 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:17 am

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In post 2581, Political Clout wrote:
In post 2580, Black wrote: We're 1v1ing. Votes should be between us today
I'm fine with that maybe sorta not really. if you also can accept that it might be python and drew. I probably need to reread this game again funnily enough. I do think it is python especially that they posted without voting light I think that was theatre.
python/drew is possible. I'll admit there's a possibility I'm tunneled and/or influenced by the fact that there's a small part of me that always thinks Hu is scum

I need to look over the game too but I doubt I'll have time this weekend. I remember feeling better about Drew but I need to revisit that
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #2621 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:22 am

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I want to bet on Hu and Python both being town tbh
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Post Post #2622 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:04 pm

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In post 2614, ketchup777 wrote: hihi, inno on drew. now it gets seriousssss
See? Nothing to worry about me

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Also, inno on PC if that even matters anymore
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Post Post #2623 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:17 pm

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In post 2622, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 2614, ketchup777 wrote: hihi, inno on drew. now it gets seriousssss
See? Nothing to worry about me

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Also, inno on PC if that even matters anymore
if we have a real cop who doesn’t want to blow cover this will give them some protection
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Post Post #2624 (ISO) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:17 pm

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but yeah it seems like it’s GF/GF/GF

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