Open 905: Pick Your Power X/Y S/S [game over!]

[Dannflor]

when i rolled scum in this setup we coordinated so one person would pick a low number, one person a middling number, and one person a higher number

i think we thought this would increase the odds of at least one of us getting a spot high enough in the draft to get a role

we briefly talked about picking the same number but decided it wasn't worth the WIFOM

has there ever been a roll of this setup where scum have intentionally chosen the same numbers?

[Firebringer]

i feel like im the only player brazen enough to do same numbers in this game

[Firebringer]

im pretty much considered u cleared dannflor

[Pavowski]

Gob why am I highly likely toqn

You and NAS had same draft number. Plus the way Dunn opened by voting NAS makes it even less likely,imo.

This is not bad thinking, I can see and have pondered whether scum might draft the same number for exactly this reason, but I dunno, that puts you late in the draft order and makes not getting a PR significantly higher.

Then again, they did choose informed, so ...

What does mafia choosing informed have to do with that? Also yea I agree that scum would do that play on purpose, but given how NAS and Dunn played early, I don't think thats as likely. I feel like we would've at least seen NAS cross vote Dunn. But im open for other intrepretations.

They chose informed rather than multitasking. So if a scummo or two didn't get a role, it's NBD because a vanilla goon can still night kill, was my assumption

If every scum is multitasking, they would try harder for PRs

This is assuming I understand the setup correctly, which, y'know, I have never claimed to be particularly smart

[gob]

jesus dude i am so bad with women its unreal

[Firebringer]

my head is killing me

[the worst]

Gob why am I highly likely toqn

You and NAS had same draft number. Plus the way Dunn opened by voting NAS makes it even less likely,imo.

This is not bad thinking, I can see and have pondered whether scum might draft the same number for exactly this reason, but I dunno, that puts you late in the draft order and makes not getting a PR significantly higher.

Then again, they did choose informed, so ...

so....what?

Like I think I get what you're getting at but I feel like it's such an abstract way to try and keep your reads open

What do you actually think?

[the worst]

i feel like im the only player brazen enough to do same numbers in this game

???? Id obviously do it with you

[the worst]

Gob why am I highly likely toqn

You and NAS had same draft number. Plus the way Dunn opened by voting NAS makes it even less likely,imo.

This is not bad thinking, I can see and have pondered whether scum might draft the same number for exactly this reason, but I dunno, that puts you late in the draft order and makes not getting a PR significantly higher.

Then again, they did choose informed, so ...

What does mafia choosing informed have to do with that? Also yea I agree that scum would do that play on purpose, but given how NAS and Dunn played early, I don't think thats as likely. I feel like we would've at least seen NAS cross vote Dunn. But im open for other intrepretations.

They chose informed rather than multitasking. So if a scummo or two didn't get a role, it's NBD because a vanilla goon can still night kill, was my assumption

If every scum is multitasking, they would try harder for PRs

This is assuming I understand the setup correctly, which, y'know, I have never claimed to be particularly smart

Where are your reads at Pavo

I think at their core both modifiers are there primarily to make a mechanical solve harder (this is, like, broadly philosophising, SS might be throwing rotten fruit in my rough direction)

[Pavowski]

Gob why am I highly likely toqn

You and NAS had same draft number. Plus the way Dunn opened by voting NAS makes it even less likely,imo.

This is not bad thinking, I can see and have pondered whether scum might draft the same number for exactly this reason, but I dunno, that puts you late in the draft order and makes not getting a PR significantly higher.

Then again, they did choose informed, so ...

so....what?

Like I think I get what you're getting at but I feel like it's such an abstract way to try and keep your reads open

What do you actually think?

I think it's really unlikely scum would choose the same numbers given that they chose informed. If I take that as a given, Dann may not be 100% mech cleared, but he's *pretty effing close*.

[Jake The Wolfie]

also don't want to hear anything about the speed of gob wagon is indicative that gob isn't scum here. There is only one other scum assuming gob is scum as well. Scum barely have ability to influence wagons here.

My take on this:

The speed of the Gob wagon is more indicative of the playerbase's general will to get rid of an annoying player (a policy axe, if you will) rather than any one team pushing for an axe.

I will say though that this assumption (that scum have little power to dictate wagons) only holds if scum are in the lurkers and not in the active players. If, as an example, Firebringer and Dave were both scum, then the wolves would have a huge influence over what wagons get pushed.

[Firebringer]

also don't want to hear anything about the speed of gob wagon is indicative that gob isn't scum here. There is only one other scum assuming gob is scum as well. Scum barely have ability to influence wagons here.

My take on this:

The speed of the Gob wagon is more indicative of the playerbase's general will to get rid of an annoying player (a policy axe, if you will) rather than any one team pushing for an axe.

I will say though that this assumption (that scum have little power to dictate wagons) only holds if scum are in the lurkers and not in the active players. If, as an example, Firebringer and Dave were both scum, then the wolves would have a huge influence over what wagons get pushed.

this is so wrong and i just don't see the point in arguing with u about it

[Pavowski]

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Gob why am I highly likely toqn

You and NAS had same draft number. Plus the way Dunn opened by voting NAS makes it even less likely,imo.

This is not bad thinking, I can see and have pondered whether scum might draft the same number for exactly this reason, but I dunno, that puts you late in the draft order and makes not getting a PR significantly higher.

Then again, they did choose informed, so ...

What does mafia choosing informed have to do with that? Also yea I agree that scum would do that play on purpose, but given how NAS and Dunn played early, I don't think thats as likely. I feel like we would've at least seen NAS cross vote Dunn. But im open for other intrepretations.

They chose informed rather than multitasking. So if a scummo or two didn't get a role, it's NBD because a vanilla goon can still night kill, was my assumption

If every scum is multitasking, they would try harder for PRs

This is assuming I understand the setup correctly, which, y'know, I have never claimed to be particularly smart

Where are your reads at Pavo

I think at their core both modifiers are there primarily to make a mechanical solve harder (this is, like, broadly philosophising, SS might be throwing rotten fruit in my rough direction)

When you say both modifiers, are you talking about informed vs multitasking?

I'm ready to townlock Dann mechanically for a while, and I wanna lim Gob today, partially on his play (did not like the hammer) and partially because if gob is town, scum never kills there, and we'll have to sort the slot sooner or later.

I vote sooner.

Uh Oblivion is still town, I'm still leaning town on you for weak reasons like I was d1, I still think May is towny.

As for the rest, I'm thinking more about the draft.

I like Dave's lolsolve of mafia going 1,2,3, but I think PP at 4 is a high candidate for a scum choice also. That makes my lim pool Fire, you, Brian, and PP. Oblivion has a low # but I feel it's town.

I dunno, I have a lot of thoughts about the draft but they're half-baked at best.

[Pavowski]

P.S. Yes I know Gob isn't in that lim pool, but I still like my gob vote. I'm voting Gob on play; there's plenty of time to untangle the rest.

[Oblivion]

It is currently not voting Gob for the sake of fear of another quick hammer, it wishes to kill Gob regardless of claim except for perhaps Cop, but imagine it's full support on that.

[Firebringer]

i feel like im the only player brazen enough to do same numbers in this game

???? Id obviously do it with you

i don't think u had time to talk to allies to coordinate picks, u were out sick much of early day 1 if i recall

[Firebringer]

It is currently not voting Gob for the sake of fear of another quick hammer, it wishes to kill Gob regardless of claim except for perhaps Cop, but imagine it's full support on that.

is there something you want to do while we are stalling the wagon train

[gob]

whats goin on people.

fucked up rn

[gob]

It is currently not voting Gob for the sake of fear of another quick hammer, it wishes to kill Gob regardless of claim except for perhaps Cop, but imagine it's full support on that.

is there something you want to do while we are stalling the wagon train

Why do you want to lim me so quickly? Can't we just chill & let the game move forward.

[Firebringer]

u got hammered, and u confessed to being mafia just a minute ago.
Just waiting on dats for the flip.

Hows the weed Gob?

[Firebringer]

It is currently not voting Gob for the sake of fear of another quick hammer, it wishes to kill Gob regardless of claim except for perhaps Cop, but imagine it's full support on that.

is there something you want to do while we are stalling the wagon train

Why do you want to lim me so quickly? Can't we just chill & let the game move forward.

ur forgetting ur read of me is mafia

[Pavowski]

It is currently not voting Gob for the sake of fear of another quick hammer, it wishes to kill Gob regardless of claim except for perhaps Cop, but imagine it's full support on that.

I'd say if there were a quickhammer on Gob, and Gob flips green, the hammerer would be top of the yeet list for next day.

[Pavowski]

Which is my roundabout way of saying I don't think you need to fear a quickhammer here

[Firebringer]

gob if u want to go and try fake claiming to save urself.

We all ears for ur fake.

It might be the best way u help ur last scum buddy at this point to get reactions for him/her to flush out more PRs for ur team

[gob]

It is currently not voting Gob for the sake of fear of another quick hammer, it wishes to kill Gob regardless of claim except for perhaps Cop, but imagine it's full support on that.

is there something you want to do while we are stalling the wagon train

Why do you want to lim me so quickly? Can't we just chill & let the game move forward.

ur forgetting ur read of me is mafia

What does that have to do with anything?