Ya, misremembering when someone town read you or not....and confusing the games
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
In post 233, ketchup777 wrote:
don’t be fooled by my post count I’ve literally only played 1 game I just made 777 posts
This post is the only reason I'm not hopping on the Ketchup train*. They feel flailey, but this context is exactly how I'd expect someone who made 700+ posts one game to react to getting scumread.
*also more of a mustard guy tbh
I‘ll answer important things in a sec but NOOOO MUSTARD IS SO BAD
so tempted to vote you
In post 196, ketchup777 wrote:
mmm I’m more confused. I thought she was just doing a bit of general probing to put me under pressure and stuff. what are you getting at?
What I'm getting at is that it's weird that you seemingly are not considering that the difference is that I'm a wolf this game. You're thinking the difference is within you first and foremost, even when you're not town-reading me which would be the only reason I would imagine this not come across in your head.
Oh ok i see.
Even if you’re a wolfy and making up your sus on me, I expected you to suspect that I would probably cross-question you on your reasons for it. so you had to have some 'reasons', reasons which can only have come from my ISO.
This kinda feels like reasoning made up after ketchup was called out for talking to JV like he's town
Ok it seems like I’m inadvertently digging myself into holes. Full disclosure, I may have kind of blindsided on not thinking about Jackson’s alignment, but I was scared to admit that after both of you were on me for it. I’ve seen how Gypyx couldn’t survive after you were both on her. It might have been in the back of the mind, honestly I wasn’t really thinking about Jackson‘s alignment at all though. I was just looking at it from a 'what are the reasons for him suspecting me' kinda viewpoint. I hadn’t really considered alignment would matter, to be honest. I also have a slight reluctance to try and sort Jackson until necessary. I want new exciting gameplay! although a wagon forming on me a day in is not quite what I had in mind
granted. do you have any actual thoughts about who might be scum, or town even?
yea ur mafia
In post 303, DkKoba wrote:
i just pulled up light ganskis most recent game, looked at their early posts, concluded they were scum, and they indeed were scum. im feeling good about myself tbh
In post 305, DkKoba wrote:
ok im ngl just relooked at LG's iso here and maybe im a little silly lol VOTE: titus
heh at least you can read
I'm not sure I'm following the titus scumreads (koba/ketchup), either of you talk to me about it
I explained already but I had expected Titus to remember me. So I was right her opening was off, just not for the reasons i expected.
Just their interactions they have had, seems 'off' to me, and not in a way two buddies would interact in game, at least early on.......but in a way that scum and a traitor would interact in game when they have 'found each other'.
Again, this is a bit tinfoily......but making me squint at both of them.
I do hope I can dance with both of them sometime soon to see if there is actually any juice to squeeze there.
I’m not very (at all) familiar with traitors, but now you mention it some of Jackson‘s posts do look like he’s trying to say he’s the traitor? Saying at the start that he’s a wolf and trying to find the traitor would alert the real scumteam that it might be him, then whipping out a delayed miller claim in 228, both seem kind of traitory I think.
Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim.
In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.
I did this a lot in my first game as scum
again, I feel like the focus on ketchup is very much picking the low hanging fruit
I wouldn't classify ketchup as LHF at all. In the last game we played he was pretty obviously town.
I'm not getting the same vibes here yet
May be a surprising discovery but we’re actually not the same person (:
Operation bringArkointothegame is being abandoned, I’ll trust Hu Tao‘s 326 combined with some of my own instincts to help apply some Laplacian pressure. His complementing Ranger‘s minimal amount of lists based on vibes after 1 post didn’t make much sense to me.
Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim.
In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.
I did this a lot in my first game as scum
again, I feel like the focus on ketchup is very much picking the low hanging fruit
I wouldn't classify ketchup as LHF at all. In the last game we played he was pretty obviously town. I'm not getting the same vibes here yet
in my first ever game on this site eight years ago, I did a decently good job (as town) of coming across as fairly obvious town. like, better than i've normally been able to replicate since. in my second I got mislimmed, day one, *as an innocent child*. i think from experience that in first games, it can be easier to maintain a high, productive, solve-y *energy* that's easy to TR, but hard to maintain when the first game novelty wears off but you don't yet have the experience to be *confident* in your play, and ketchup very much comes across like that to me rn
I like this post (not just because it’s defending me) because I have had some of the same thoughts
Just their interactions they have had, seems 'off' to me, and not in a way two buddies would interact in game, at least early on.......but in a way that scum and a traitor would interact in game when they have 'found each other'.
Again, this is a bit tinfoily......but making me squint at both of them.
I do hope I can dance with both of them sometime soon to see if there is actually any juice to squeeze there.
I ISOed jackson and this is actually not a terrible point... I could easily see a world in which Jackson's RVS wolf claim was fishing for the group-scum.
In post 185, ketchup777 wrote:
last time you seemed convinced early on I was town (tho faltered at parts) so I am alarmed I have been significantly different enough to get you going the opposite way. mystical
You seem to default to the assumption the difference is with you?
am I being dumb? what’s the alternative? if you saw me in a new light, it was probably something I did
Do you not know why Black asked if you thought I was town?
In post 196, ketchup777 wrote:
mmm I’m more confused. I thought she was just doing a bit of general probing to put me under pressure and stuff. what are you getting at?
What I'm getting at is that it's weird that you seemingly are not considering that the difference is that I'm a wolf this game. You're thinking the difference is within you first and foremost, even when you're not town-reading me which would be the only reason I would imagine this not come across in your head.
Mmhmm
In post 204, JacksonVirgo wrote:
But it's because you seem to be on a similar wavelength than I am, I should have actually asked a little more before assuming you town but eh too late
In post 390, light_ganski wrote:
The "you seem to be on a similar wavelength" line in particular feels a lot like it could be fishing
Or, they seemed to be on a similar wavelength. Considering they seemingly caught exactly what I caught, and asked ketchup if they thought I was town because of that discrepency which I then brought up and talked about. Don't kid yourself
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
I think the mindset displayed in 93 is probably more likely to come from scum. Scum don't want townies to find each other and it feels like she's bothered that I have a gut townread already
I was actually about to say that she seems different from the last game I was in where she was scum. Do you have any experience with her?
I agree I’m getting townie vibes from light, and from you, hu tao (:
I’d rather be attacked by dragons
than join these crappy day 1 wagons
What about me do you think is towny so far?
159 but basically you just feel like the same person as in Thomith‘s game. if you’re amazing at maintaining the same personality whenever, then darn you’ve got me!for now
I know you say that you try to aim for it Hu, but there is definitely something about your town game I don't see in your scum game.
I guess Mafia has a Cop is the best example of what I mean.
What do you think so far of me now then?
Definitely on the townie side of things, but as I have said in previous games......you are scary haha
Just their interactions they have had, seems 'off' to me, and not in a way two buddies would interact in game, at least early on.......but in a way that scum and a traitor would interact in game when they have 'found each other'.
Again, this is a bit tinfoily......but making me squint at both of them.
I do hope I can dance with both of them sometime soon to see if there is actually any juice to squeeze there.
What about our interactions makes you feel this way?
Also we can dance whenever you're ready. You know I'll never turn you down