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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:09 pm

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In post 373, usesPython wrote:
In post 372, Doctor Drew wrote: You never fucked up a meta read?
Then thats not lying that's misremembering
Ya, misremembering when someone town read you or not....and confusing the games
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:14 pm

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I think we lost the plot, what was the point of this again?
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:48 pm

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In post 288, Laplacian wrote:
In post 233, ketchup777 wrote: don’t be fooled by my post count I’ve literally only played 1 game I just made 777 posts
This post is the only reason I'm not hopping on the Ketchup train*. They feel flailey, but this context is exactly how I'd expect someone who made 700+ posts one game to react to getting scumread.

*also more of a mustard guy tbh
I‘ll answer important things in a sec but NOOOO MUSTARD IS SO BAD
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:53 pm

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In post 315, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 225, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 215, Black wrote:
In post 206, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 198, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 196, ketchup777 wrote: mmm I’m more confused. I thought she was just doing a bit of general probing to put me under pressure and stuff. what are you getting at?
What I'm getting at is that it's weird that you seemingly are not considering that the difference is that I'm a wolf this game. You're thinking the difference is within you first and foremost, even when you're not town-reading me which would be the only reason I would imagine this not come across in your head.
Oh ok i see.

Even if you’re a wolfy and making up your sus on me, I expected you to suspect that I would probably cross-question you on your reasons for it. so you had to have some 'reasons', reasons which can only have come from my ISO.
This kinda feels like reasoning made up after ketchup was called out for talking to JV like he's town
Ok it seems like I’m inadvertently digging myself into holes. Full disclosure, I may have kind of blindsided on not thinking about Jackson’s alignment, but I was scared to admit that after both of you were on me for it. I’ve seen how Gypyx couldn’t survive after you were both on her. It might have been in the back of the mind, honestly I wasn’t really thinking about Jackson‘s alignment at all though. I was just looking at it from a 'what are the reasons for him suspecting me' kinda viewpoint. I hadn’t really considered alignment would matter, to be honest. I also have a slight reluctance to try and sort Jackson until necessary. I want new exciting gameplay! although a wagon forming on me a day in is not quite what I had in mind
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:57 pm

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In post 330, light_ganski wrote:
In post 300, DkKoba wrote:
In post 296, light_ganski wrote:
In post 272, DkKoba wrote: i demand attention
granted. do you have any actual thoughts about who might be scum, or town even?
yea ur mafia
In post 303, DkKoba wrote: i just pulled up light ganskis most recent game, looked at their early posts, concluded they were scum, and they indeed were scum. im feeling good about myself tbh
In post 305, DkKoba wrote: ok im ngl just relooked at LG's iso here and maybe im a little silly lol
VOTE: titus
heh at least you can read

I'm not sure I'm following the titus scumreads (koba/ketchup), either of you talk to me about it
I explained already but I had expected Titus to remember me. So I was right her opening was off, just not for the reasons i expected.
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:02 pm

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In post 338, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 328, light_ganski wrote:
In post 317, Doctor Drew wrote: I do have a slightly tinfoil scum team of Black and JV right now
could you elaborate?
In post 329, light_ganski wrote: specifically why both of them together?
Just their interactions they have had, seems 'off' to me, and not in a way two buddies would interact in game, at least early on.......but in a way that scum and a traitor would interact in game when they have 'found each other'.

Again, this is a bit tinfoily......but making me squint at both of them.

I do hope I can dance with both of them sometime soon to see if there is actually any juice to squeeze there.


I’m not very (at all) familiar with traitors, but now you mention it some of Jackson‘s posts do look like he’s trying to say he’s the traitor? Saying at the start that he’s a wolf and trying to find the traitor would alert the real scumteam that it might be him, then whipping out a delayed miller claim in , both seem kind of traitory I think.
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:05 pm

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In post 342, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 340, Titus wrote: Light might be scum w ketchup
^^

I can definitely see this world
I cant (:
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:17 pm

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In post 273, Black wrote:
In post 271, light_ganski wrote:
In post 269, Black wrote:
In post 266, ketchup777 wrote: VOTE: Arko

Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim.
In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.


I did this a lot in my first game as scum :igmeou:


again, I feel like the focus on ketchup is very much picking the low hanging fruit
I wouldn't classify ketchup as LHF at all. In the last game we played he was pretty obviously town.
I'm not getting the same vibes here yet
May be a surprising discovery but we’re actually not the same person (:

Operation bringArkointothegame is being abandoned, I’ll trust Hu Tao‘s combined with some of my own instincts to help apply some Laplacian pressure. His complementing Ranger‘s minimal amount of lists based on vibes after 1 post didn’t make much sense to me.


VOTE: Laplacian


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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:18 pm

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Hang on he said Scumpoints to ranger i misremembered oops
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:22 pm

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In post 276, light_ganski wrote:
In post 273, Black wrote:
In post 271, light_ganski wrote:
In post 269, Black wrote:
In post 266, ketchup777 wrote: VOTE: Arko

Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim.
In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.
I did this a lot in my first game as scum :igmeou:
again, I feel like the focus on ketchup is very much picking the low hanging fruit
I wouldn't classify ketchup as LHF at all. In the last game we played he was pretty obviously town. I'm not getting the same vibes here yet
in my first ever game on this site eight years ago, I did a decently good job (as town) of coming across as fairly obvious town. like, better than i've normally been able to replicate since. in my second I got mislimmed, day one, *as an innocent child*. i think from experience that in first games, it can be easier to maintain a high, productive, solve-y *energy* that's easy to TR, but hard to maintain when the first game novelty wears off but you don't yet have the experience to be *confident* in your play, and ketchup very much comes across like that to me rn
I like this post (not just because it’s defending me) because I have had some of the same thoughts
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:36 pm

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In post 280, Laplacian wrote: also are we still RVS shitposting or is it tryhard time? want to check before I reread the thread
This kinda feels like Laplacian is trying too hard to say 'look, I didn’t ask this question in the mafia PT'
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:39 pm

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In post 282, Laplacian wrote:
In post 16, ketchup777 wrote: oh er

VOTE: DkKoba

an anagram of bad kok? sus
In post 102, DkKoba wrote:
No I actually claim Miller
Dumb reason and actual reason mean I'm not voting DkKoba until like, day 3. Then we kill them and let
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Mod sort them out
Why does my RVS start preclude you from voting Koba?
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:48 pm

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In post 295, light_ganski wrote:
In post 266, ketchup777 wrote: VOTE: Arko

Will let Titus further develop her not remembering me claim. In the meantime, I will mercilessly target the AFK slot.
considering that arko hasn't posted yet

do you suspect anyone else, besides titus?
the top suspects in no particular order: Black, JacksonVirgo, Ranger, Koba, Titus

the unsorted: Arko, Laplacian, Political Clout, Usespython

the top townies: me, Hu Tao, Drew, Light
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:26 am

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In post 338, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 328, light_ganski wrote:
In post 317, Doctor Drew wrote: I do have a slightly tinfoil scum team of Black and JV right now
could you elaborate?
In post 329, light_ganski wrote: specifically why both of them together?
Just their interactions they have had, seems 'off' to me, and not in a way two buddies would interact in game, at least early on.......but in a way that scum and a traitor would interact in game when they have 'found each other'.

Again, this is a bit tinfoily......but making me squint at both of them.

I do hope I can dance with both of them sometime soon to see if there is actually any juice to squeeze there.
I ISOed jackson and this is actually not a terrible point... I could easily see a world in which Jackson's RVS wolf claim was fishing for the group-scum.
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:27 am

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Black and Jackson's conversation about Jackson's black TR is also pinging me from that ISO in a not good way
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:32 am

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Spoiler: Jackson/Black 200-207
In post 200, Black wrote:
In post 189, JacksonVirgo wrote: Ok, Black is Town. We love that
Why am I town
In post 201, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 200, Black wrote:
In post 189, JacksonVirgo wrote: Ok, Black is Town. We love that
Why am I town
Cuz you're Black
In post 202, JacksonVirgo wrote: I always happen to TR you
In post 203, Black wrote:
In post 193, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 191, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 187, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 185, ketchup777 wrote: last time you seemed convinced early on I was town (tho faltered at parts) so I am alarmed I have been significantly different enough to get you going the opposite way. mystical
You seem to default to the assumption the difference is with you?
am I being dumb? what’s the alternative? if you saw me in a new light, it was probably something I did
Do you not know why Black asked if you thought I was town?
In post 198, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 196, ketchup777 wrote: mmm I’m more confused. I thought she was just doing a bit of general probing to put me under pressure and stuff. what are you getting at?
What I'm getting at is that it's weird that you seemingly are not considering that the difference is that I'm a wolf this game. You're thinking the difference is within you first and foremost, even when you're not town-reading me which would be the only reason I would imagine this not come across in your head.
Mmhmm
In post 204, JacksonVirgo wrote: But it's because you seem to be on a similar wavelength than I am, I should have actually asked a little more before assuming you town but eh too late
In post 205, Black wrote:
In post 202, JacksonVirgo wrote: I always happen to TR you
But you've been wrong about me twice very recently. Why are you not concerned that you could be wrong again?
In post 207, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 205, Black wrote:
In post 202, JacksonVirgo wrote: I always happen to TR you
But you've been wrong about me twice very recently. Why are you not concerned that you could be wrong again?
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Early days


It might just be paranoia. But is this how two townies talk about a town read one has on the other?

The "you seem to be on a similar wavelength" line in particular feels a lot like it could be fishing
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:33 am

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/a traitor fishing for scum or vice versa, I mean
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:37 am

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In post 390, light_ganski wrote: The "you seem to be on a similar wavelength" line in particular feels a lot like it could be fishing
Or, they seemed to be on a similar wavelength. Considering they seemingly caught exactly what I caught, and asked ketchup if they thought I was town because of that discrepency which I then brought up and talked about. Don't kid yourself
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:39 am

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In post 341, Titus wrote: Ketchup and broccoli better not be scum together because that would be weird shit made in a beaker.
I doubt this pretty substantially, I don't think they would take the direction on me if ketchup was their partner
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:39 am

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In post 232, Doctor Drew wrote: Jacksons confidence he is showing scares me as well, stop being scary.
What's new?
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:40 am

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I think that was all I wanted to comment on
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:40 am

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Peace, gonna watch some Shameless and then come back later. Cya
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:30 am

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In post 318, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 280, Laplacian wrote: also are we still RVS shitposting or is it tryhard time? want to check before I reread the thread
I think you're scum so far. You seem different even in the limited posts
In post 320, Laplacian wrote:
In post 318, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 280, Laplacian wrote: also are we still RVS shitposting or is it tryhard time? want to check before I reread the thread
I think you're scum so far. You seem different even in the limited posts
Yeah, its because I'm not socialist posting like last day 1. You seem townier than last few games tho
Not liking this response from Laplacian. It feels like he could be trying to get her off of him by saying she's townie
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:31 am

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In post 335, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 324, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 310, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 306, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 174, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 171, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 154, ketchup777 wrote:
In post 147, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 106, Black wrote: VOTE: LG

I think the mindset displayed in is probably more likely to come from scum. Scum don't want townies to find each other and it feels like she's bothered that I have a gut townread already
I was actually about to say that she seems different from the last game I was in where she was scum. Do you have any experience with her?
I agree I’m getting townie vibes from light, and from you, hu tao (:

I’d rather be attacked by dragons
than join these crappy day 1 wagons
What about me do you think is towny so far?
but basically you just feel like the same person as in Thomith‘s game. if you’re amazing at maintaining the same personality whenever, then darn you’ve got me!for now
:shifty:
I know you say that you try to aim for it Hu, but there is definitely something about your town game I don't see in your scum game.

I guess Mafia has a Cop is the best example of what I mean.
What do you think so far of me now then?
Definitely on the townie side of things, but as I have said in previous games......you are scary haha
Agreed
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:34 am

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In post 338, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 328, light_ganski wrote:
In post 317, Doctor Drew wrote: I do have a slightly tinfoil scum team of Black and JV right now
could you elaborate?
In post 329, light_ganski wrote: specifically why both of them together?
Just their interactions they have had, seems 'off' to me, and not in a way two buddies would interact in game, at least early on.......but in a way that scum and a traitor would interact in game when they have 'found each other'.

Again, this is a bit tinfoily......but making me squint at both of them.

I do hope I can dance with both of them sometime soon to see if there is actually any juice to squeeze there.
What about our interactions makes you feel this way?

Also we can dance whenever you're ready. You know I'll never turn you down
I scumread Alianna.

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