JOAT uPick | FIN!

[Bell]

Ask FF if your result includes the night you use the ability on.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I mean like we have a dead body aka lemon

we know lemon was killed at night by the last mafia

if you inspect lemons body you will find the killer no?

But Lemon died today, I can investigate at Night

Everyone yesterday was saying for me to use my power last night

ok this is kind of a moot point about what you should or should not have done so lets just not talk about it.


you are sure that your result means that the killer has to be one of those four people who visited joyboy?

[Doctor Drew]

Ask FF if your result includes the night you use the ability on.

The role specifically says I won't know what night each person visited them

I mean like we have a dead body aka lemon

we know lemon was killed at night by the last mafia

if you inspect lemons body you will find the killer no?

But Lemon died today, I can investigate at Night

Everyone yesterday was saying for me to use my power last night

ok this is kind of a moot point about what you should or should not have done so lets just not talk about it.


you are sure that your result means that the killer has to be one of those four people who visited joyboy?

All I know is that those people visited Joy, it would be assumed that one of those is the last scum who killed them

But again, Hu visiting them is weird

[Bell]

Er, wouldn’t hu Tao have killed them.

[Doctor Drew]

Er, wouldn’t hu Tao have killed them.

Hu died D2, Joy died N2

[Bell]

Oh

[Bell]

Well, check their abilities.
Oh, and was that the day the shenanigans with HST went d-
Oh.

I see.

Well they lied about checking HST and used their ability elsewhere.

[Bell]

Cabd, Maria, Hu, and Lap all visited Joyboy at some point this game

….this is helpful isn’t it?
Apologies I wasn’t paying attention.

[Bell]

Can someone walk me through why/what they did with joyboy?

[Bell]

Yeah, so, it does indeed have to be one of those three unless..
Uh no I can’t think of anything since pretty sure ninja would still show up. Yeah?

[Dunnstral]

Oh and....

If it wasn't ircher that has the weirdness about stuff going through it was the recipient.

Which is laplacian. I am pretty sure.


Right now though I need to be talked down from worrying about HST and Dunn.

Well I pushed Relativistic Harmony, and while I was waffling between HST and the 2 mafia I did say I would eliminate both Hu Tao and Light.Ganski if HST flipped town. And I ended up flipping to Hu Tao when new information from Sakura came out.

HST is town because of interactions with other mafia. I don't think Hu Tao would have claimed like that if they knew HST's role and that they claimed to Sakura.

[Dunnstral]

I mean, if somebody not me or you is capable of the tripple-fakeout deepwolf, it's HST?

does he even like doing those weird gambits? I thought he was a straight shooter, I guess I havent really played with him that much but like the way that d2 went down with the fake cop into the reflector thingy did not feel planned.

tho I guess he could be a fucking criminal mastermind but I just feel like nah?

maybe he's in my blind spot because he has a cute anime avatar and I can never scumread those

I wouldn't really expect HST to be bussing their whole team here. They were clearly leaning towards light.ganski even without the guilty result.

[Dunnstral]

Did someone ask me about Cabd scum.

I don’t think they’re scum this game because of the neighborhood shenanigans, their utilization of Titus, their clear interest and proactivity etc etc.

Would be super surprised if cabd scum.

I’m near certain he’ll die before end game if we don’t hit scum before then.

They are pretty much confirmed not scum due to Laplacian's claim. Cabd would have been the target of the elimination. Unless mafia had a way to ignore the bus driver.

[Dunnstral]

Cabd, Maria, Hu, and Lap all visited Joyboy at some point this game

I showered and thought:

I hate that you posted this instead of demanding everyone fullclaim their visits first :/

Why is everyone playing suboptimally? Meme indeed.

Thought about this after the fact, though was just eager to get the results out before I passed out lol.

I don't get why Drew used his ability on Joyboy

wasnt the plan to make him inspect the latest murder victim so he could get a positive ID on the killer

Uhh, one scum left......and Joyboy was the latest murder victim at that point.

I literally was yelled at yesterday about why I hadn't used the forensics yet

Well I told you multiple times that you would only get a guilty if you waited for the latest kill, otherwise one of the existing mafia could have made that kill.

[Bell]

This point feels mute with Drew’s result.

Either Drew is scum or its cabd, Maria, or laplace.

[Bell]

Do we have 4 eliminations left?

[Dunnstral]

dude has 3 abilities? wild

Still don't know why I'm should have waited more to take forensic, care to enlighten me?

4194, 4262, 4265, etc.

...wait. Hu Tao died before Joyboy did.

[Dunnstral]

Hu Tao was Bobby Kotick, a

JOAT Union Buster

Spoiler: Bobby Kotick Role PM

Welcome, Hu Tao!

You are

Bobby Kotick

, founder and CEO of Activision and Activision-Blizzard, You may be the most misunderstood person in the entire video game industry. Every change you've fought for is an improvement to the industry and to the players, of course. Gamers took exception to your focusing your company's resources on building on successful games rather than creating new game products, but obviously a few corners had to be cut and a few sacrifices made. Not by you of course, but a few employees may have suffered just a bit. But, your hand picked review board concluded that your improved processes would never, ever let something like sexual harassment and workplace revenge happen again. It was all coming together again when this crazy worldwide general strike bubbled up form nowhere. You have joined a cabal with like minded moguls who are determined to preserve the world's economy and your lofty places within it. The strikes must END!

You are a

JOAT Union Buster

Your abilities are:

• 1-shot Day Ability cop - Once during a game day you can investigate another player and learn what kinds of JOAT abilities they have
  
• 1-shot Vengeful - If you are eliminated, during twilight you can choose a player to kill on your way out

Your factional abilities are:

[REDACTED]

Win Condition

You win when the Union Busters achieve numerical parity with the

Union Members

or nothing can prevent that from occurring, as long as at least one

Union Buster

is alive

To CONFIRM, please reply to this PM and quote the 4th Game Specific Rule as posted in the Game thread.

Joyboy was a labor activist from Denmark, a

JOAT Union Member

Spoiler: Joyboy's Role PM

Welcome, Joyboy!

Labor and government in Denmark have had a positive relationship for many years and initially you wondered what this talk about a worldwide general strike had to do with Denmark. But, as you've learned more about the dire conditions for workers in many country you've been swept up with the ideal of making every country a workers' paradise. It's time to regroup, join hands with other labor activists, unions and movements around the globe and lift all workers into their rightful place among nations! Beware, though. There are rumors that Union Busters are working against you!

You are a labor activist and

JOAT Union Member

with the following abilities:

• 1-shot night-day doctor. You can use this ability at night to protect a player that night and the following day. You can choose to self-target. This ability works against one kill when used. If the player you protect is targeted by more than one killing ability during the same phase, they will die.
  
• 1-shot dead-neighborizer and conditional role-copier. Once at night you can form a neighborhood with a dead player. The neighborhood will last for as long as you are alive. Your dead neighbor can choose to give you one of their unused 1-shot abilities (if any are left) for your use.

Win Condition:

You win when all the

Union Busters

have been eliminated or nothing can prevent that from happening.

To CONFIRM, please reply to this PM and quote the 4th Game Specific Rule as posted in the Game thread.

Titus was a labor activist from the United States, a

JOAT Union Member

Spoiler: Titus's Role PM

Welcome, Titus!

The last nationwide general strike in the United States was the essential workers strike in 2020. Before then, the labor movement had been in a long accelerating decline for the most part. The COVID-19 crisis was a turning point, focusing on workers stuck on the bottom rungs with no or inadequate healthcare, abysmal working conditions, and paltry minimum wages. Larger, more powerful unions in the US stood up and extended a hand to help essential workers rise and it made a huge difference. But, as always, corporations find a way to strike back with new threats, whether it be AI, child labor, or lobbying for new regulations that allow them to more easily break up unionizing efforts. But the never-ending tug of war has some new faces. Workers all over the world have had enough of getting beaten down in the global economy and general strikes are spreading like wildfire. It's time to regroup, join hands with other labor activists, unions and movements around the globe and lift all workers into their rightful place among nations! Beware, though. There are rumors that Union Busters are working against you!

You are a labor activist and

JOAT Union Member

with the following abilities:

• 1-Shot combined Watcher and Messenger with the restriction that the message must be a tailored unique compliment to brighten their day. No hinting about your identity or reads.
  
• 1-Shot Novice Announcing Restricted Ability Copier - Target a player any day other than Day 1 to copy (not steal) the non-factional ability they last used at Night or during the Day. If the player you target hasn't used an ability, then your 1-shot will fail. If you succeed, then the player will be informed that they were targeted by an Ability Copier.

Win Condition:

You win when all the

Union Busters

have been eliminated or nothing can prevent that from happening.

To CONFIRM, please reply to this PM and quote the 4th Game Specific Rule as posted in the Game thread.

Hu Tao would have had to have used the day ability cop on Joyboy for this result. They couldn't have killed Joyboy. Last mafia is either MariaR or Laplacian.

[Dunnstral]

Or Doctor Drew.

[Dunnstral]

Or we have a Ninja.

[Dunnstral]

This point feels mute with Drew’s result.

Either Drew is scum or its cabd, Maria, or laplace.

It's not Cabd because Laplacian is claiming to have bus drove lemon and Cabd, and lemon died. So Cabd would have been targeted with the kill this night.

[Dunnstral]

Yeah, so, it does indeed have to be one of those three unless..
Uh no I can’t think of anything since pretty sure ninja would still show up. Yeah?

That's not clear to me, actually... it could function either way

[Bell]

Do ninja’s give heart attacks without leaving any wounds? He’s a forensic dude.

Well on the other hand that’s a weird name given forensic doesn’t really apply to visits.
It should have simply documented how they died.

[Bell]

Laplacian could be lying.
In the same way that Drew could be lying.

[Bell]

Cabd is the last person on that last I wanna kill.
Since this is pretty obviously their town game.