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Vote Count

Official Vote Count 1.03

I should had posted it in first votecount really.

Execution

With

10

votes in play, it takes

6

to execute someone.

HighPrincessErinys

(3): ActionDan, Klick, Gimli

Hu Tao

(2): Radical Rat, CUDDLE TIME

CUDDLE TIME

(1): Hu Tao

ActionDan

(1): Aureal

Not Voting

(3): T-Bone, HighPrincessErinys, Doctor Drew

Deadline:

(expired on 2024-02-27 17:44:05).

Grace Period: No one can be hammered for (expired on 2024-02-18 17:44:05)

Mod notes: I yawned and posted votecount again

[Hu Tao]

My big question about this is why does it matter if they are follower or Kira? Even if they are follower and not Kira, voting them off is still good (just want to say this is from your point of view not mine, I don't have a read on hpe currently but I'll check after this)

Because HPE might let it slip that ActionDan is Kira

This train of thought confuses me. Clearly you think HPE has likely

already

let it slip. So I don't understand what more there would be to gain here. We're not going to get confirmation of HPE being follower or not. And you saying to all of us that you think Dan could be Kira to HPE's follower, if true surely just makes them that much more careful to try not to look like that. I don't know why you would say it if you're only just thinking it's a possibility, so this doesn't feel like a real thought that you have and that distresses me.

The post you quoted is mostly me trying to answer Hu Tao with as little information as possible. Because several people at this point want to extract everything they can out of my reasoning before neither HPE nor ActionDan give an adequate response.

Okay... fine...

I'm totally lost with whatever is going on here with you guys.

VOTE: ActionDan

You were questioning me but quickly dropped it. Kinda sus

[Hu Tao]

*snip*

I've come to the same conclusion. I got what I needed to be able to read both black and dragon. I'm pretty familiar with them and I feel confident in reading them. They both replied in a way that I feel town them would. Do you have familiarity with T-Bone? Is he known as a very strong scum player?

Then why are you still voting us?

Also, do you have any thoughts on anything else in the game except this slot and T-Bone? For exampe do you have a read on HPE? And on Aureal?

Can you send me a scum game of yours please. I tried looking through your threads but you have too many

He was scum in this one:
viewtopic.php?t=90333

You are welcome.

- Dragon

Thank you

[Hu Tao]

Well, this one generally tries to mix up its approach at least a little every game, but also after tunneling hard on you last time and being wrong its time to see if doing the opposite will make me right.

sure it makes perfect sense

VOTE: HPE

ready to die for the cause sir
VOTE: HPE

Those who scumread hpe, why is this not a soft for gimli as Kira?

[Klick]

That post is the main reason I scumread HPE and I think it's a red herring

[CUDDLE TIME]

*snip*

I've come to the same conclusion. I got what I needed to be able to read both black and dragon. I'm pretty familiar with them and I feel confident in reading them. They both replied in a way that I feel town them would. Do you have familiarity with T-Bone? Is he known as a very strong scum player?

Then why are you still voting us?

Also, do you have any thoughts on anything else in the game except this slot and T-Bone? For exampe do you have a read on HPE? And on Aureal?

Can you send me a scum game of yours please. I tried looking through your threads but you have too many

He was scum in this one:
viewtopic.php?t=90333

You are welcome.

- Dragon

Thank you

Could you answer our questions when you get the chance please?

- Thomith

[Radical Rat]

That post is the main reason I scumread HPE and I think it's a red herring

Aureal and Drew had a similar exchange in Reunion Mafia, and were both Town there.

Obviously, neither of them are HPE, so if this is something you think is coming from it as scum specifically, it could still hold significance. But I don't think the behavior is scummy in a vacuum.

[Hu Tao]

*snip*

I've come to the same conclusion. I got what I needed to be able to read both black and dragon. I'm pretty familiar with them and I feel confident in reading them. They both replied in a way that I feel town them would. Do you have familiarity with T-Bone? Is he known as a very strong scum player?

Then why are you still voting us?

Also, do you have any thoughts on anything else in the game except this slot and T-Bone? For exampe do you have a read on HPE? And on Aureal?

Can you send me a scum game of yours please. I tried looking through your threads but you have too many

He was scum in this one:
viewtopic.php?t=90333

You are welcome.

- Dragon

Thank you

Could you answer our questions when you get the chance please?

- Thomith

This game is different so I don't plan to be too quick with reads. I think scum need to play differently since it is a different dynamic. They all don't know each other and there is a chance a follower is pushing on another follower. I'm only going to post reads I'm confident in. I'm not sure why the vote bothers you. I'm just not sure who to change it to at the moment. And you're not in danger of being eliminated.

[Hu Tao]

I take back my t bone Town read cause I can se him saying that stuff as scum as well now that I looked at his scum game.

[Hu Tao]

Only read I'm confident in at the moment is cuddle being town

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Aureal

She is giving me off vibes for some reason

[Klick]

HPE should dead

[HighPrincessErinys]

Well, this one generally tries to mix up its approach at least a little every game, but also after tunneling hard on you last time and being wrong its time to see if doing the opposite will make me right.

sure it makes perfect sense

VOTE: HPE

ready to die for the cause sir
VOTE: HPE

Those who scumread hpe, why is this not a soft for gimli as Kira?

oh my god bruh it was a shitpost

[HighPrincessErinys]

that goes for klick too

[HighPrincessErinys]

In general Klick has weird vibes and this one doesn't know why they keep talking about me slipping ActionDan as Kira as if they haven't already drawn the conclusion (somehow) long before then so as to be talking very specifically about ActionDan as Kira.

[HighPrincessErinys]

@cuddles : I can't shake that your post 7 and 8 doesn't come from scum. Rest of your hydra's posting is fine.

VOTE: HIGH PRINCESS SCUMRINYS

We've been opposite alignments for 4 games in a row, don't see a reason it would change now.

Okay bye I'm going to play the marathon NewD3 now.

????

The first one totally sounds like something I would say, and I'm always town so maaaaaybe I could kinda see it being towny (but really that's probably just a personal quirk of mine). But I definitely disagree on the second, it feels somewhat pre-emptively defensive to need to announce that you're leaving to do something else.

It's possible Dan meant the ISO numbers?? Which for Cuddle would be 43 and 46 which like. Kinda, but not really, other than being cranky about RVS.

[HighPrincessErinys]

also this doesnt vibe with misha fe5 as much as it thought it would. maybe.............

[CUDDLE TIME]

I've started to write a really long post about reads and solving and so on but I'm really tired and sleepy and gonna go sleep now so I'll post it tomorrow. Yes, I know it's not even 10 PM yet. Goodnight anyway.

- Dragon

[Klick]

Well, this one generally tries to mix up its approach at least a little every game, but also after tunneling hard on you last time and being wrong its time to see if doing the opposite will make me right.

sure it makes perfect sense

VOTE: HPE

ready to die for the cause sir
VOTE: HPE

Those who scumread hpe, why is this not a soft for gimli as Kira?

oh my god bruh it was a shitpost

In the world where you're a Follower and Gimli is Kira, it functions just fine as a soft with the guise of 'lol it's just a shitpost'
In other words, it's only a shitpost if you're town.

[CUDDLE TIME]

My big question about this is why does it matter if they are follower or Kira? Even if they are follower and not Kira, voting them off is still good (just want to say this is from your point of view not mine, I don't have a read on hpe currently but I'll check after this)

Because HPE might let it slip that ActionDan is Kira

We get no alignment on flip based on the rules. So I think it would just be better to vote the scummy person than voting someone else because the person we think is scummy might have scum slipped them. (If that's not your point then sorry I misunderstood)

Well, this one generally tries to mix up its approach at least a little every game, but also after tunneling hard on you last time and being wrong its time to see if doing the opposite will make me right.

sure it makes perfect sense

VOTE: HPE

ready to die for the cause sir
VOTE: HPE

Those who scumread hpe, why is this not a soft for gimli as Kira?

I'm a little confused with these two posts, because it seems that you were originally stating that it isn't beneficial to look for potential partners, but then later on start trying to start discourse on people that may be partnered? Let me know if I'm misinterpreting this, but it stood out and seemed weird to me.

When we flip town

Um

Like, after the game is over?

*confusion*

Ngl I forgot about that mechanic

My memory is so bad

-Black

I think I am locking Aureal as town

Black I am looking at you with squinty eyes

Lick can hang out in town lead for a bit

I want to scum read Dan, but now that this is just the way he is, so I dunno

Hu I can never figure out D1

Bone I think is town

UNVOTE:

Could you expand on some of these reads? Specifically your TR on T-Bone and Aureal?
Dan, I think based on Mafia Reunion, should spew himself if he is town at some point. Do you think he's playing differently here? Why the slight scumread?

aureal and black/cuddle are towny, black's townread on aureal matches my impressions.

HPE is always hard to grasp but this game it seems to be a bit on edge like nervous?

klick entered the game with a comment I dislike and I tried several times to write out the reasoning but meh maybe later

Could you please elaborate on that reasoning? I don't understand why you dislike Klick's comment, I think he's correctly predicting that there's going to be hydra dissonance with that set of players (yes, I know that's what the next few pages are gonna be about). And that, as he said, he's talking about Drew's post being a non sequitur because there hadn't been hydra dissonance

yet

.

nobody needs to predict a 4 person hydra is gonna have dissonance, so entering the game with that felt awkward like he had to chime into whatever the current conversation was even though it was a pointless one

also about klick, I'm bothered by the fast townreads in a setup that greatly enhances the likelihood players will appear towny, especially kira

I changed my mind I think klick is town

klick, aureal, cuddle is my townpile

If I missed it I apologise, but I don't think you ever expanded on this heel turn? Is attempting to solve by finding townreads over scumreads inherently scummy?

*snip*

I've come to the same conclusion. I got what I needed to be able to read both black and dragon. I'm pretty familiar with them and I feel confident in reading them. They both replied in a way that I feel town them would. Do you have familiarity with T-Bone? Is he known as a very strong scum player?

Then why are you still voting us?

Also, do you have any thoughts on anything else in the game except this slot and T-Bone? For exampe do you have a read on HPE? And on Aureal?

Can you send me a scum game of yours please. I tried looking through your threads but you have too many

He was scum in this one:
viewtopic.php?t=90333

You are welcome.

- Dragon

Thank you

Could you answer our questions when you get the chance please?

- Thomith

This game is different so I don't plan to be too quick with reads. I think scum need to play differently since it is a different dynamic. They all don't know each other and there is a chance a follower is pushing on another follower. I'm only going to post reads I'm confident in. I'm not sure why the vote bothers you. I'm just not sure who to change it to at the moment. And you're not in danger of being eliminated.

I understand your point, but you stated you had enough information from Black and Dragon that you were confident they were townposting. If you Townread our slot because of that, continuing to vote us seems anti-town to me?

- Thomith

[CUDDLE TIME]

VOTE: Aureal

She is giving me off vibes for some reason

Are you able to expand a bit? Any specific posts that seem off?

- Thomith

[CUDDLE TIME]

@cuddles : I can't shake that your post 7 and 8 doesn't come from scum. Rest of your hydra's posting is fine.

VOTE: HIGH PRINCESS SCUMRINYS

We've been opposite alignments for 4 games in a row, don't see a reason it would change now.

Okay bye I'm going to play the marathon NewD3 now.

????

The first one totally sounds like something I would say, and I'm always town so maaaaaybe I could kinda see it being towny (but really that's probably just a personal quirk of mine). But I definitely disagree on the second, it feels somewhat pre-emptively defensive to need to announce that you're leaving to do something else.

It's possible Dan meant the ISO numbers?? Which for Cuddle would be 43 and 46 which like. Kinda, but not really, other than being cranky about RVS.

Your posts have been all over the place. Here's a summary on your treatment on our slot that concerned me.

1. You voted us because it is futile effort on trying to understand me.

2. Thomith asked you why did you vote us before waiting for the other heads to post.

3. You said the hydra are a policy elim and you said we are destined to be a confusing clusterfuck.

4. You recently quoted a post of Action when he said our posts I'm assuming from page 1 - page 3 have been fine to him and you picked up 2 of my posts and me being cranky about rvs saying that you could see it coming from town but you voted us anyways.

Since you said you could kind of see my posting being town, then what was even the point of voting us in the first place? Was it because of clusterfuck from all of the heads?

- A

[HighPrincessErinys]

@cuddles : I can't shake that your post 7 and 8 doesn't come from scum. Rest of your hydra's posting is fine.

VOTE: HIGH PRINCESS SCUMRINYS

We've been opposite alignments for 4 games in a row, don't see a reason it would change now.

Okay bye I'm going to play the marathon NewD3 now.

????

The first one totally sounds like something I would say, and I'm always town so maaaaaybe I could kinda see it being towny (but really that's probably just a personal quirk of mine). But I definitely disagree on the second, it feels somewhat pre-emptively defensive to need to announce that you're leaving to do something else.

It's possible Dan meant the ISO numbers?? Which for Cuddle would be 43 and 46 which like. Kinda, but not really, other than being cranky about RVS.

Your posts have been all over the place. Here's a summary on your treatment on our slot that concerned me.

1. You voted us because it is futile effort on trying to understand me.

2. Thomith asked you why did you vote us before waiting for the other heads to post.

3. You said the hydra are a policy elim and you said we are destined to be a confusing clusterfuck.

4. You recently quoted a post of Action when he said our posts I'm assuming from page 1 - page 3 have been fine to him and you picked up 2 of my posts and me being cranky about rvs saying that you could see it coming from town but you voted us anyways.

Since you said you could kind of see my posting being town, then what was even the point of voting us in the first place? Was it because of clusterfuck from all of the heads?

- A

This is NOT Adorable talking to me, one way or another.
But moreover, yeah its mostly just a vote on prediction of your presence being a netneg due to dissonance and the associated chaos of 4 heads and yadda yadda yadda no better options yadda yadda yadda, you get it. NO clue what you're talking about with point 4, is the thing. Now that you've made me take a second look, "I can't shake that your post 7 and 8 doesn't come from scum. Rest of your hydra's posting is fine." isn't so clear about what its trying to say, if those posts are scummy or not, but regardless of that me pointing out your ISO 7/8 as opposed to actual 7/8 does not have anything to do with "but you voted us anyways." considering how late to the game my thoughts on the post from AD are compared to voting AND unvoting you. So it's really confusing me.

[CUDDLE TIME]

@cuddles : I can't shake that your post 7 and 8 doesn't come from scum. Rest of your hydra's posting is fine.

VOTE: HIGH PRINCESS SCUMRINYS

We've been opposite alignments for 4 games in a row, don't see a reason it would change now.

Okay bye I'm going to play the marathon NewD3 now.

????

The first one totally sounds like something I would say, and I'm always town so maaaaaybe I could kinda see it being towny (but really that's probably just a personal quirk of mine). But I definitely disagree on the second, it feels somewhat pre-emptively defensive to need to announce that you're leaving to do something else.

It's possible Dan meant the ISO numbers?? Which for Cuddle would be 43 and 46 which like. Kinda, but not really, other than being cranky about RVS.

Your posts have been all over the place. Here's a summary on your treatment on our slot that concerned me.

1. You voted us because it is futile effort on trying to understand me.

2. Thomith asked you why did you vote us before waiting for the other heads to post.

3. You said the hydra are a policy elim and you said we are destined to be a confusing clusterfuck.

4. You recently quoted a post of Action when he said our posts I'm assuming from page 1 - page 3 have been fine to him and you picked up 2 of my posts and me being cranky about rvs saying that you could see it coming from town but you voted us anyways.

Since you said you could kind of see my posting being town, then what was even the point of voting us in the first place? Was it because of clusterfuck from all of the heads?

- A

This is NOT Adorable talking to me, one way or another.
But moreover, yeah its mostly just a vote on prediction of your presence being a netneg due to dissonance and the associated chaos of 4 heads and yadda yadda yadda no better options yadda yadda yadda, you get it. NO clue what you're talking about with point 4, is the thing. Now that you've made me take a second look, "I can't shake that your post 7 and 8 doesn't come from scum. Rest of your hydra's posting is fine." isn't so clear about what its trying to say, if those posts are scummy or not, but regardless of that me pointing out your ISO 7/8 as opposed to actual 7/8 does not have anything to do with "but you voted us anyways." considering how late to the game my thoughts on the post from AD are compared to voting AND unvoting you. So it's really confusing me.

The post of yours you quoted Action, why did you bring up my post 43, 46, and the post where I got cranky with rvs? The way how I interpreted that post you quoted from Action it looked like you said you could see it coming from town.

On this quote of yours just now where you talk about point 4, instead you talk about being confused.

- A

[Hu Tao]

Well, this one generally tries to mix up its approach at least a little every game, but also after tunneling hard on you last time and being wrong its time to see if doing the opposite will make me right.

sure it makes perfect sense

VOTE: HPE

ready to die for the cause sir
VOTE: HPE

Those who scumread hpe, why is this not a soft for gimli as Kira?

oh my god bruh it was a shitpost

Well in this game it's hard to tell because followers will want to soft to Kira in some way