In post 4248, Laplacian wrote:
I'm 100% fine with Drew into me. That way we can get that 4 for 4 clean vote sweep.
Sounds like you know I will flip town
In post 4249, Laplacian wrote:
And let's make that 4/4 sweep a reality! VOTE: Doctor Drew
So you only vote me when you get a couple votes on you?
Lol, ok
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
Like, props to Drew if he can be THIS upbeat as the final scum in a game where they got 3-for-3'd but the emotional profile I expect here is bitter and annoyed and tense.
So that's what informs my ordering of elims. (well, that, and the giant case I wrote)
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Oh and right now my third is ircher, subject to change, but inventions don't really matter much in the grand scheme of things and I don't particularly feel GREAT about their content otherwise.
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In post 4219, Cabd wrote:
Just make sure you're self-resolved before final 5 mmkay? Or otherwise people can quote this post while they put YOU into the woodchipper, lady the 2nd.
Hey now, why do you think Lemon is clearing me so hard?
Trust me when I say it'll be lots of fun~
Im just such a nice person basically whos a wolf tmi'ing you
In post 4211, Cabd wrote:
Day one ends on post 2353. All of Laplacian's ISO before this post should show a clear TRAJECTORY towards the reads he has, and his eventual targets, yes?
Let's look!
Lap's parity cop targets as claimed were:
Hu Tao, Lemon, and Dr. Drew
That's it. That's the entirety of direct mentions of their thoughts on Hu Tao one way or another before Day One ends. I'm supposed to believe this was his parity cop choice after leaving off on that positive note? (Oh, also, for the record, Hu Tao is NOT in his hero solve)
Let's do Drew next?
Wow. He literally only mentioned drew ONCE in passing as "Ever-vigilant" and then he's randomly in the hero solve?
Now Lemon gets plenty of mention, so let's go through Lemon.
I'm calling the first post a clear RVS vote. The second post turns it into a serious scum read.
Here at least we have a clear trajectory to the read. But with that said... Here's why these targets fucking suck:
A parity cop's optimal town usage is to use a fairly well known target whose alignment you are nearly positive on, alongside two others. This gives you the most bang for your buck. None of the three names he chose as initial targets are in his "townpool".
What is the optimal MAFIA usage of a parity cop? Hint: Pick two murky towns and one scum and then when that scum flips you have a guaranteed mislim, OR when one of those towns dies anyways, well, now you have your murk-scum "cleared as town".
Here's his town pool. Why did none of these serve as the calibration choice?
In post 646, Laplacian wrote:
LTO: Has made herself a valuable member of this union with quick and intelligent reads
Pooky: A friendly comrade. Pocketed me early, so I must reevaluate in days to come
Dunnstral: While quiet, his words and votes are powerful and strategic
Titus: We may disagree, but she has a strong and confident spirit
Firebringer and Maid Cafe: Veteran union workers alike, whose casual play helps put all our hearts at ease.
Why are the results "surprising" here?
In post 2403, Laplacian wrote:
Good morning comrades! I hope that we are all well rested and ready to resume our glorious revolution! Through a combination of meditation, interrogation, and rooting through garbage for suspicious evidence, I believe I have identified several comrades who are, surprisingly, trustworthy
From Laplacian's POV, he has a parity result on three people, none of which he was town reading, but one was NOT in his scum pool, and was in his "nulls" as of this point? Why should it be "surprising" to get a result of Hu Tao town? Hint: Because this is informed guilt and he knows Hu Tao is indeed his partner who he spent day one avoiding talking to or about much.
I think the part I find most compelling is that Laplacian is "surprised" at "Hu Tao town"; the assumption that all the targets were town (while maybe more likely than the opposite) does read as informed.
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In post 4211, Cabd wrote:
Day one ends on post 2353. All of Laplacian's ISO before this post should show a clear TRAJECTORY towards the reads he has, and his eventual targets, yes?
Let's look!
Lap's parity cop targets as claimed were:
Hu Tao, Lemon, and Dr. Drew
That's it. That's the entirety of direct mentions of their thoughts on Hu Tao one way or another before Day One ends. I'm supposed to believe this was his parity cop choice after leaving off on that positive note? (Oh, also, for the record, Hu Tao is NOT in his hero solve)
Let's do Drew next?
Wow. He literally only mentioned drew ONCE in passing as "Ever-vigilant" and then he's randomly in the hero solve?
Now Lemon gets plenty of mention, so let's go through Lemon.
I'm calling the first post a clear RVS vote. The second post turns it into a serious scum read.
Here at least we have a clear trajectory to the read. But with that said... Here's why these targets fucking suck:
A parity cop's optimal town usage is to use a fairly well known target whose alignment you are nearly positive on, alongside two others. This gives you the most bang for your buck. None of the three names he chose as initial targets are in his "townpool".
What is the optimal MAFIA usage of a parity cop? Hint: Pick two murky towns and one scum and then when that scum flips you have a guaranteed mislim, OR when one of those towns dies anyways, well, now you have your murk-scum "cleared as town".
Here's his town pool. Why did none of these serve as the calibration choice?
In post 646, Laplacian wrote:
LTO: Has made herself a valuable member of this union with quick and intelligent reads
Pooky: A friendly comrade. Pocketed me early, so I must reevaluate in days to come
Dunnstral: While quiet, his words and votes are powerful and strategic
Titus: We may disagree, but she has a strong and confident spirit
Firebringer and Maid Cafe: Veteran union workers alike, whose casual play helps put all our hearts at ease.
Why are the results "surprising" here?
In post 2403, Laplacian wrote:
Good morning comrades! I hope that we are all well rested and ready to resume our glorious revolution! Through a combination of meditation, interrogation, and rooting through garbage for suspicious evidence, I believe I have identified several comrades who are, surprisingly, trustworthy
From Laplacian's POV, he has a parity result on three people, none of which he was town reading, but one was NOT in his scum pool, and was in his "nulls" as of this point? Why should it be "surprising" to get a result of Hu Tao town? Hint: Because this is informed guilt and he knows Hu Tao is indeed his partner who he spent day one avoiding talking to or about much.
This entire case hinges on the fact that I didn't immediately spew any minor suspicion I have. I'm only going to effort post if I have actual evidence. Vibes don't merit a huge wordy post, and huge wordy posts were the only way I was posting D1.
And huge fucking lol on complaining about optimal play. You want to nab people for playing suboptimally, let's policy MariaR for the N1 lightning rod fucking up every action.
I'm actually think MariaR isn't scum anymore. I looked at interactions between Hu Tao and light_ganski with MariaR, and it looked to me like they were trying to push MariaR as their designated mislim.
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In post 3024, Maid Cafe wrote:
I'm not lying. There's no reason for me to come into the thread and make up some sort of wild lie like that.
Do I know why Ircher's action went through? No. All I know is I used a lighting rod causing every action to be on Bell. Maybe action order messes with that but shrug.jpg
Can you claim your lightning rod ability again? What modifiers does it have and why did it not show up in watcher results?
All actions go to the person I visit. The only modifier involved is not relevant (as in doesn't matter to the issue at hand) why it did not show up the watcher? your guess is as good as mine.
If you're curious the modifier in question was
compulsive
I fucking know it was compulsive. They could have warned us so every invest results that night didn't get burnt.
That would defeat the purpose, wouldn't it?
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Ircher, can you fill in my chart for your self town case por favor? You seem to be kind of tangential to the entire thread right now and it's kinda weird
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I could vote Ircher just for quoting an already long post.....that has already been quoted
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
Also isn't the optimal play for like, us to vote out Lap Drew checks Fire or Joy (prob Fire given how popular Joy was)
Vote out lovers carry on?
If Doctor Drew waits a night they can find the current mafia making kills. otherwise it could be one of the already dead mafia who targeted those players.
In post 4211, Cabd wrote:
What is the optimal MAFIA usage of a parity cop? Hint: Pick two murky towns and one scum and then when that scum flips you have a guaranteed mislim, OR when one of those towns dies anyways, well, now you have your murk-scum "cleared as town".
First usage here doesn't make sense to me, as it is trading 1 town for 1 mafia which is not a good play.
In post 4266, Dunnstral wrote:
If we wait an extra night we know the kill has to come from the currently alive mafia. Or they will need to block or kill Drew if he is town.
Are you still in contact with Pooky?
What if anything has he noted in relation to the new posts that have hit the thread?
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In post 4266, Dunnstral wrote:
If we wait an extra night we know the kill has to come from the currently alive mafia. Or they will need to block or kill Drew if he is town.
Are you still in contact with Pooky?
What if anything has he noted in relation to the new posts that have hit the thread?
I'm in contact with Bell. Who sometimes sends stuff over from Pooky. Pooky wanted it known that they suspect Ircher some more.
My role makes every visit besides fractional ones go to my target. This was stated.
So, with that in mind and Drew's role that makes him using that on Firebringer basically a guilty.
Or at least, 66% if the mafia that dies D2 did the kill. However, I feel like everyone in their right mind takes those odds. The role just feels like a "I'm gonna buy myself some time."
The choice isn't really that important on who goes over if the entire thread does agree we're going Lap/Drew Lover pair and Ircher but yeah.
We need to get rid of lover pair next so no extra kill or 3p stuff etc happens so by the time the guilty from Drew comes along it would be a 50/50 regardless assuming nothing happens. The only way to avoid this would be using it tonight on 1 of Joy and Fire and you can see how that goes.
I bet Maria is scum this game
~Firebringer
Na Maria isn't towny enough to be scum this game~
Charloux
MariaR goes for the uwu owo tsundere-dere look but you never know if she has a knife behind her back.~