JOAT uPick | FIN!

[Cabd]

But I am treating maria as either self-sorting by final 5 or the final five elim and I encourage everyone else to do that same.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Oh I by no means doubt Maria. I'm just trying to figure out if Ircher not being redirected and Maria not being seen by watcher has some sort of correlation.

[Cabd]

Ircher's inventions really need more clarity on exactly when phases they are handed out and how they work, yes.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Of all the alive players

[Doctor Drew]

Of all the alive players

Might be semantics, but my forensic investigation is unused.

Also, I don't believe I saw anyone mention it, but there has got to be a 3p here?

Was thinking just by the size and role madness style of the game there should be, but I went and looked at the OP for any mention of one, and scabs were mentioned.....so there is that

[Cabd]

I highly highly doubt it's a 3P killing role, ffery is notorious for letting her third parties town side so if they are out there they should be trying to win with us.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Oh btw I already asked the mod if RH’s isolator action submission was during the day or night. She said night.

[Doctor Drew]

I highly highly doubt it's a 3P killing role, ffery is notorious for letting her third parties town side so if they are out there they should be trying to win with us.

Titus is gonna scream in the dead thread if I don't say this next piece, isn't 3p anti-town by nature?

And this is a Upick game, ff wouldn't have too much say if someone who rolled 3p also chose a killing role, right?

I mainly bring up the possibility of a 3p since there seems to be an issue with everyone coming to a consensus scum read(maybe besides me, but I have the unique perspective to know I am town)......so I feel like 3p is laying with the town reads.

This is kind of a stream of consciouness post, and I came around to your point as typing this, Cabd, that they are probably not a danger to town anyways lol

I guess my point is that if it gets to a point where it comes close to lylo, don't discount the possibility of a scab amongst us.

[Cabd]

They are not a danger YET at the very least.

Also, you're not first on MY list today Drew.

[Cabd]

3p also chose a killing role

Roles came before alignments, so no?

[Doctor Drew]

3p also chose a killing role

Roles came before alignments, so no?

Well I meant, whoever is potentially a 3p, chose a killing ability.......and then they rolled 3p

[Doctor Drew]

They are not a danger YET at the very least.

Also, you're not first on MY list today Drew.

Ya but I can read the tea leaves, and like I said earlier just my presence muddies the waters(especially for Turtle and maria who are tunneled into thinking I am scum), so I am fine being the lim unless we can find something very compelling about someone else beforehand.

And like I said, at the very least it is best to prepare for the inevitable town flip of mine if we do go down that route, and prepare for the next day

[Ircher]

Ircher's inventions really need more clarity on exactly when phases they are handed out and how they work, yes.

I'm not sure what there is to clarify. I submitted my action night 1, and Laplacian received it presumably at day 2 start. It's a one-shot roleblock invention; I think how it works is pretty self-explanatory. No, there weren't any modifiers.

[Ircher]

I was kind of suspect of the reloader ability because Laplacian could have easily used the roleblock invention then instead. (It would've made sense too since I think Joyboy claimed to be able to self-target. Thus, mafia could roleblock to prevent the self-heal and kill.) But it seems that ended up not being the case as Drew got roleblocked last night, so that does make me feel a little better about Laplace. I guess it wouldn't be impossible that Laplacian made the kill that night.

[Cabd]

Rip game. Thread dead.

[Doctor Drew]

Rip game. Thread dead.

This is how I felt last night, I was trying to get the game going lol

Also this is what happens without Pooky and Bell

[Laplacian]

I can confirm the bus drive tomorrow night, but it's also not an intrinsically towny ability so :shrug:

[Laplacian]

E: If the parity cop is real, why wasn't it novice or otherwise gated? A N1 parity cop is fucking HUGE.

Parity cop is also most susceptible of all the redirections that exists in this game, so I don't think of it as that op tbh.

Thank you, I kept saying that day 2 and everyone was going "ItS tOo Op!". 3x the targets means 3x the chance it gets ballsed up, as happened there

[Doctor Drew]

Let me ask, there’s no explicit mention of duration in the role.

Laplace, walk me through why you think I’m scum this game if you’ve fully caught up. Your flavor writing is getting in the way of providing a clear reason why you’re holding this position.

Since you said Laplace inatead of the dull sobriquet "Lap", I shall indulge with a flavourless explaination.

You're not hard scum, more 'theres been so much both towny and scummy stuff that idfk some invest figure this out'

Scummy:
Early claims bad
Not really scumhunting
Defense appealed to emotion
Did not like your response to LTO'a big case

Towny:
The 'slip' chat was a dumb accusation
Last 10ish pages good
The speed the accusations spun up make me think a scum was on it
Post by post catchup was so weird feels it could only come from town

In conclusion, ????? please someone cop you so i can spend energy reading others

So Lap, why didn't you Cop Bell?

[Laplacian]

Things that absolutely bug the shit out of me about Laplacian right now:

A: We have no actual proof there were three targets, we only KNOW of one, which was claimed to be hu tao. (Titus saw him on Bell)
B: If the parity cop is real, they chose two easily flipped townies, and Hu Tao, with a parity-town "clear" that sets Hu Tao up to endgame as "cleared town." Possible luck but weeeeeeeird.
C: They're demoralized as shit, which is kind of where I expect the final maf to be headspace wise.
D: Town already had several other investigative flipped (or claimed, me) (A hider that can basically never die)
E: If the parity cop is real, why wasn't it novice or otherwise gated? A N1 parity cop is fucking HUGE.

For C, yeah, no shit. We're in the boring endgame. 3 scum down, with 10 alive. This is a chess game where you're up a queen and two rooks and the opponent is still shuffling their knight back and forth hoping we run out of time. Your own logic in 4092 says we've got 3 chances barring any double lims; we lose that we deserve it

[Laplacian]

Let me ask, there’s no explicit mention of duration in the role.

Laplace, walk me through why you think I’m scum this game if you’ve fully caught up. Your flavor writing is getting in the way of providing a clear reason why you’re holding this position.

Since you said Laplace inatead of the dull sobriquet "Lap", I shall indulge with a flavourless explaination.

You're not hard scum, more 'theres been so much both towny and scummy stuff that idfk some invest figure this out'

Scummy:
Early claims bad
Not really scumhunting
Defense appealed to emotion
Did not like your response to LTO'a big case

Towny:
The 'slip' chat was a dumb accusation
Last 10ish pages good
The speed the accusations spun up make me think a scum was on it
Post by post catchup was so weird feels it could only come from town

In conclusion, ????? please someone cop you so i can spend energy reading others

So Lap, why didn't you Cop Bell?

There was so much shit around Bell one way or another I figured some other invest would cop him. I suggested it as much myself some time around that post. I instead went after 3 people who I was leaning scum on to either clear them all or confirm there was a scum in there.

[Laplacian]

Yeah, literally 4 posts before that one I say (to simplify) "Idgaf about bell anymore, someone else deal with it"

[Doctor Drew]

Let me ask, there’s no explicit mention of duration in the role.

Laplace, walk me through why you think I’m scum this game if you’ve fully caught up. Your flavor writing is getting in the way of providing a clear reason why you’re holding this position.

Since you said Laplace inatead of the dull sobriquet "Lap", I shall indulge with a flavourless explaination.

You're not hard scum, more 'theres been so much both towny and scummy stuff that idfk some invest figure this out'

Scummy:
Early claims bad
Not really scumhunting
Defense appealed to emotion
Did not like your response to LTO'a big case

Towny:
The 'slip' chat was a dumb accusation
Last 10ish pages good
The speed the accusations spun up make me think a scum was on it
Post by post catchup was so weird feels it could only come from town

In conclusion, ????? please someone cop you so i can spend energy reading others

So Lap, why didn't you Cop Bell?

There was so much shit around Bell one way or another I figured some other invest would cop him. I suggested it as much myself some time around that post. I instead went after 3 people who I was leaning scum on to either clear them all or confirm there was a scum in there.

If you had suspicions of Bell, and you had the ability to investigate them.......why would you leave it to chance that maybe someone else would instead??

[Doctor Drew]

Comrade Bell continues to confound. I am no longer unsure if he is a noble revolutionary or a foul capitalist. While I will vote if necessary, I instead urge one of our union's cunning investigators to observe hia actiona closely during the night, as to truly divine his motives. Indeed, perhaps the second night, as his alleged isolation would render our investigator's hard work moot.

You mean this post?

Maybe it the roleplay obfuscating things, but still seems like you cared about Bell