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Post Post #925 (ISO) » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:39 pm

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Vote on the wagon.... you mean the antitown player has to be lynched?

So, just to clarify: If we lynch scum, and you were the first, second, or third vote on the wagon, and your role PM is
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posted, you will have no problem with being lynched?

In that case,
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Post Post #926 (ISO) » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:47 pm

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Xylthixlm wrote:Vote on the wagon.... you mean the antitown player has to be lynched?

So, just to clarify: If we lynch scum, and you were the first, second, or third vote on the wagon, and your role PM is
not
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In that case,
unvote
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Post Post #927 (ISO) » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:50 pm

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populartajo wrote:Kay guys, you win.
My ultimate goes online when I am the first, second or third vote on the wagon of an anti-town player.
I am leaving a big part of my role to myself. It will all make sense when my role PM is posted by the mod.
Now, can we investigate other person?
people voting for Tajo wrote:Vi, dahill1, Stef, Kinetic, Machiavellian-Mafia, Xylthixlm, hasdgfas, hasdgfas, TehVariable, qwints
Specially one from this list?
Umm, mod I should be voting for Tsjo, not the person above him, so my carryover vote is on Pesco
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Post Post #928 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:48 am

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Seems like a... wonky kind of ultimate condition, but anyway,

In light of this news and figure out whether Pesco's abilities are for the good of the town or not. 'Clearing someone' when they're dead is pretty open ended as to what could happen.

Either that or Ceph.
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Post Post #929 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:43 am

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Hey guys I just replaced in blah blah blah my top 3 suspects for today are:

DGB (for voting for herself which would have caused town to waste an investigation)
Ceprir (for the same reason as DGB and lurking)
Pop (for voting tar before Malt claimed to have used his ability)

...

I actually wrote this yesterday and got the CPU quota error. I believe tajo's claim so you can delete his name from my suspect list.

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Post Post #930 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:45 am

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populartajo 924 wrote:
people voting for Tajo wrote:Vi, dahill1, Stef, Kinetic, Machiavellian-Mafia, Xylthixlm, hasdgfas, hasdgfas, TehVariable, qwints
Specially one from this list?
lol, OMGUS. If you're going to try that line of thought, why not look beyond yourself at who was on BOTH your wagon and DGb's wagon? (Xyl, Kinetic,
TehVariable
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Since I think a few people are going to be on your case to make sure you're one of the first three people on any wagon from now on, I think your claim works for now. So...

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Post Post #931 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:15 am

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populartajo wrote:Now, can we investigate other person?
people voting for Tajo wrote:Vi, dahill1, Stef, Kinetic, Machiavellian-Mafia, Xylthixlm, hasdgfas, hasdgfas, TehVariable, qwints
Specially one from this list?
Of these people, hasdgfas is obviously a double voter, so I think investigating him is a waste of time. TehVariable would make a nice investigation target IMO, and I have a gut feeling about qwints. But I don't think we have to investigate the people on your wagon. (I already activated and stated my ultimate, so I'm not a good investigation target.)

I think the two best investigation targets are Kairyuu and whomever he counterclaimed (the CPU quota came up while typing this, so I have no way of checking at this time).
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Post Post #932 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:26 am

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hp [leaves] wrote:DGB (for voting for herself which would have caused town to waste an investigation)
Ceprir (for the same reason as DGB and lurking)
I fail to see how wanting to have yourself investigated is anti-town.
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Post Post #933 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:35 am

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StrangerCoug wrote: TehVariable would make a nice investigation target IMO
Not that it precisely matters beyond wasting an investigation, but did you miss the part where it was established that I'm forbiddanlight? I obviously cannot be scum if this is true (and that's probably the iffy part), but given my role as forbiddanlight and my claimed role, I think it makes a bit of sense. As well as posting style, for that matter.

Further, I initiated the whack a mole, and I'd love to hear an anti town theory for that.

Of course, as I was thinking, I actually am not that bad a target, if there is a cult it wouldn't do to have me parading around as "confirmed town". Then again, the investigation results would only help you for so long. I think there are better targets.

So, my official stance on looking at me is I don't like it, but I'll understand it and if it's decided to be done I will back it up.

Anyway, with tajo's ultimate condition claimed, I'm happy going with

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ShadowGirl wrote:
In light of this news and figure out whether Pesco's abilities are for the good of the town or not. 'Clearing someone' when they're dead is pretty open ended as to what could happen.
I could see this too.
Kairyuu wrote: I'm not particular either way. I would go for DGB, Tajo, Seraphim, Cephrir, or myself (if you guys want to confirm that I'm not lying scum).
I don't think this would help much. I'm almost certain you are indeed a neutral. It's just a matter of if you are Haruhi or Mao, and I fully believe if you were Mao you'd get Haruhi as a fakeclaim. Since Whack-a-Mole gives alignment, this wouldn't be helpful.
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Post Post #934 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:36 am

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Xyl wrote:
I fail to see how wanting to have yourself investigated is anti-town.
I agree, unless it's a show.

I'm willing to say DGB gives pro town vibes for attempting it, but Cephrir felt a lot like he was copying what appeared to "clear" DGB. I don't like this.
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Post Post #935 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 5:37 am

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StrangerCoug 931 wrote:I think the two best investigation targets are Kairyuu and whomever he counterclaimed (the CPU quota came up while typing this, so I have no way of checking at this time).
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His name came up on my list too...
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Post Post #936 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:39 am

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ok thank you for the claim finally!
also, just because we wanted you to claim =/= we are scum.

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Post Post #937 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:41 am

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oops
unvote


just remembered tajo has to be the 1st 2nd or 3rd vote so we should probably let him vote first.
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Post Post #938 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:41 am

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Vi wrote:Since I think a few people are going to be on your case to make sure you're one of the first three people on any wagon from now on, I think your claim works for now.
This. Tajo's claim makes sense.
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I am inclined to agree with this. Dreams of reality is too powerful, random and too general to be given to one of the primary factions.
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Post Post #939 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:42 am

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dahill1 wrote:oops
unvote


just remembered tajo has to be the 1st 2nd or 3rd vote so we should probably let him vote first.
We're not
lynching
with this vote since Whack-a-Mole is in effect, so I think it should be ok in this case.
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Post Post #940 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:42 am

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veerus wrote:
dahill1 wrote:oops
unvote


just remembered tajo has to be the 1st 2nd or 3rd vote so we should probably let him vote first.
We're not
lynching
with this vote since Whack-a-Mole is in effect, so I think it should be ok in this case.
argh i forgot..again!

vote stef


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Post Post #941 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:49 am

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Vote qwints
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Come out from the sidelines please. The last 2 posts were just fillers for activity.
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Post Post #942 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:20 am

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Vi wrote:
populartajo 924 wrote:
people voting for Tajo wrote:Vi, dahill1, Stef, Kinetic, Machiavellian-Mafia, Xylthixlm, hasdgfas, hasdgfas, TehVariable, qwints
Specially one from this list?
lol, OMGUS. If you're going to try that line of thought, why not look beyond yourself at who was on BOTH your wagon and DGb's wagon? (Xyl, Kinetic,
TehVariable
)

Since I think a few people are going to be on your case to make sure you're one of the first three people on any wagon from now on, I think your claim works for now. So...

Unvote: whoever
Vote: Machiavellian-Mafia
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I was never on Pop's wagon. I voted Pop, but intended the vote to carry over to Pesco, read the post:
Kinetic wrote:
Pesco47 wrote:Pick someone other than DGB. it'll be redundant with my action.

I'd prefer to have the people I target still be alive when my ultimate triggers for maximum effect. Feel free to speculate wether it's a mass delayed-vig or something crazy, I won't be telling.
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You're right. You make a good case sir.

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Post Post #943 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:27 am

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And I'm pretty sure I saw that post, too... My mind is shorting out.

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Post Post #944 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:28 am

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veerus wrote:Cephir has been recognized as a lurker (and even tried to mimic DGB's behavior at one point a few pages ago to get off the radar).
I did?
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Post Post #945 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:35 am

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populartajo wrote:Kay guys, you win.
My ultimate goes online when I am the first, second or third vote on the wagon of an anti-town player.
I am leaving a big part of my role to myself. It will all make sense when my role PM is posted by the mod.
Now, can we investigate other person?
people voting for Tajo wrote:Vi, dahill1, Stef, Kinetic, Machiavellian-Mafia, Xylthixlm, hasdgfas, hasdgfas, TehVariable, qwints
Specially one from this list?
I wonder if Whack-a-Mole would have any effect on this ultimate condition. (i.e. We still technically 'lynch' someone, except they don't die... )

Don't think it would hurt to test that at least, no?
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Post Post #946 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:06 am

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@Strangercoug:
I think the two best investigation targets are Kairyuu and whomever he counterclaimed
I didn't counterclaim anyone. I was accused of being Mao (with the correct name of my night action) and was therefore forced to come out with a full claim to explain my actions (and that I'm not Mao).

However, I have no problem with being the investigation target. It will prove that I am neutral as I claim.

@TehVariable:
I fully believe if you were Mao you'd get Haruhi as a fakeclaim.
I didn't get any fakeclaims. However, I did get the ability to request any fake role pm that I want (and I may be using that soon just to make a wacky, completely improbable one).

@all: I just realized something. I may actually be able to make it to a win in this game (or at least to my ultimate) if you guys don't lynch me. If I remember correctly, in the other games, some of the Dreams powers were more helpful to the scum than the town. Given that I have horrible luck in guessing this type of thing, I'm sure that if I'm left alive I will end up hitting a few of those (and yes, this is a shameless attempt to keep myself alive and unblocked :P )

Also, my role pm specifically mentions this, and I should have said this when I claimed, but I forgot. I do not count as a separate faction for the purpose of roles whose win conditions involve eliminating all other/all antitown factions. That is, I don't count as an anti-town faction according to my role pm.
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Post Post #947 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:08 am

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Kairyuu wrote:@Strangercoug:
I think the two best investigation targets are Kairyuu and whomever he counterclaimed
I didn't counterclaim anyone. I was accused of being Mao (with the correct name of my night action) and was therefore forced to come out with a full claim to explain my actions (and that I'm not Mao).
That's what I meant.
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Post Post #948 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:08 am

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sorry refresh my memory
what exactly does the Dreams power do again?
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Post Post #949 (ISO) » Sat Dec 20, 2008 11:34 am

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@dahill:I have ten of them, and I am required to use one each day at twilight. I have no idea what any of them do (though I suspect that one of them turns the game into kingmaker for a day, even though it has a different name than in the other two games). Some of them have pro-town effects, some neutral, and some anti-town.

I used one called "Where did the cat go?" Twilight 1, and I attempted to use "Wandering Shadow" and "The Day of Sagittarius" Twilight 2, but they failed to work. This Twilight I am debating between using "Endless Eight" (which I suspect has something to do with the deadline, "The Boredom of Haruhi Suzumiya" (which sounds cool, and kinda supports my claim), and "Editor in Chief? Straight Ahead!" (which I suspect makes the game into kingmaker for the day). I'm willing to take suggestions, and will reveal the other ones available to me if people would like.
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