In post 794, LavarManos wrote:
fwiw fire, i feel p good about u rn and bad about ff. 765 pings of possible TMI
I'm also curious
Cabd, how much of u accepting ff's proposal is u actually townreading her compared to linking up w/ an old buddy in the hopes that she's also town and that yall could have fun solving together
In post 1059, Spiffeh wrote:
Currently catching up on the past twenty-ish pages
I was thinking that your last post asking about the ff scumreads seemed sorta random and wk-like
with this as context, ig its fine but im curious if ur ff read will change (also not seeing why u read her as town currently?)
LavarManos, can you explain if your read on fferylit changed between these two posts and if so what made you change your mind?
In the first, you explain that ffery looks bad to you, but in the second you mention that it looks like I'm white knighting her (and double down on that thought later on).
This opinion doesn't really align with your stated read, so it just feels like you're trying to take a potshot at me to look busy.
In post 1398, LavarManos wrote:
-mindmelding with fire on his spiffeh scumread. idt I caught on to why exactly fire has that read
fmpov tho, spiffeh had a very analytical opening that I liked, but he's fallen off a lot since in terms of depth of analysis. Also, idt he ever explained why he townreads ff, which looks really bad if ff were to flip town
In post 1410, Spiffeh wrote:
My fferylit townread is something I've explained a couple times, albeit nothing super substantial until recently in my post 1318 (sorry idk how to link posts anymore).
I looked back at 1318, and I still don't see anything substantial. And in that post, ur only concrete reason for townreading ff was only from something she said in 1311? That makes no sense to me given you've practically been calling ff town from the start of the game.
So why were you so confident at the start because aorn ur tr on her just seems like a phantom read
In post 1410, Spiffeh wrote:
What about my interaction with the fferylit suspicion specifically makes you think that I "look bad" if she flips town?
As I said, it feels like you've been townreading her with nothing to back it up, which just is classic wk behavior
wrt to what you said about ur std read spiffeh, it seems like everyone just seems to view std as town (which he very well may be!). but it's mostly just you who was defending ff which is why that caught my eye
Still wondering why people tr std btw
I reviewed LavarManos' entire ISO and while there is a ton of interaction with fferylit compared to other players, I don't see any other analysis or opinions on her alignment after calling her scum, yet he devotes multiple posts to painting me as a white knight which would imply he thinks she's town?
For someone who was so eager for me to share my reasons for town reading fferylit, I don't understand the trajectory with his read on her and it just looks like he's lining me up to take the fall when ffery ends up flipping town.
Of the remaining gentlemen, I want LavarManos left behind.
'skitter is fucking terrifying' ~ town-bork about scum-me
'Skitter [was] terrifying to play against ngl' ~ scum-bork about town-me
'Going into lylo against scum!skit unprepared is like having someone force feed you dull razor blades. It's painful, and once it starts, you're pretty much dead' ~ NMSA
'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
In post 1660, Spiffeh wrote:
Because it's annoying, and feels like scum (LavarManos) are perpetuating the idea to make me look bad.
How are u reading me now?
I am leaning town on you now, but have gone back and forth on you throughout the game. I felt good about your post thinking scum are already paired, and that attitude matches up with your pressure on ffery and how you've been pushing me to substantiate my townread on Gypyx.
The way you've approached and engaged me feels like town trying to ascertain if the pings I've apparently set off for you mean something more. LavarManos, like fireisred implied recently, feels like they are choosing things to nitpick and go after to look like they have an opinion. Painting me as a white-knight for ffery does not jive with how he was viewing the game state at that time (at least from what he presented to the thread).
In post 1540, HolySpiritTurtle wrote:
Mmm
I think that's kinda what I'm leaning towards too, but more towards null than town.
Stated lot of things but haven't really delved into any of them.
Anyway, to elaborate on what I said re: Lavar, dude is saying a lot of takes and opinions, but he isn’t exploring any of them further. Basically, lot of surface reads I think. Could be town still testing the water, or scum pretending to do things. On one hand, his takes were rather blunt and I don’t know if a scum would approach like that and make enemy like that for no reason. On the other hand, it could simply just be a playstyle.
In post 1656, Spiffeh wrote:
LavarManos, can you explain if your read on fferylit changed between these two posts and if so what made you change your mind?
I def didn't like her initial couple of posts and I still don't rlly. But I still at least consider the possibility that she's town in which case ur beginning read feels bad.
It looks like ur trying to frame that as a meta thing which I would have no clue about, so if unsubstantiated early townreads is ur thing, then ig that's cool
