Kemusan - Game Over

[LavarManos]

Has anyone actually had any real success at reading enchant consistently?

i have had a few times where i felt reasonably confident in enchant being town and was correct. i don't think they're unreadable

how do u feel about enchant this game?

[LavarManos]

Oh yeah I also think Holy turtle is town, their posting gives me the genuine vibe of actually having fun interacting with the game that I think scum is trying to manufacture this game

So is there anyone you think is artificially manufacturing this "having fun" tone?

[RH9]

Rh9

If you could pair with anyone in this player list regardless of taken status or gender, who would you choose

that's hard actually.
i'm not actually sure.
btw, re: gender, did you mean gents/ladies?

[Save The Dragons]

Yes

[fireisredsir]

Has anyone actually had any real success at reading enchant consistently?

i have had a few times where i felt reasonably confident in enchant being town and was correct. i don't think they're unreadable

how do u feel about enchant this game?

ok i had in my brain that there were things that i felt were towny from enchant but i reread iso and there's basically nothing actually

807 and 808 are like a tiny bit towny coming from enchant imo but thats like it

so idk actually i think id most prefer to leave enchant out right now. they were way townier in new years dance (and did actually end up getting paired at the end): viewtopic.php?t=90239&user_select%5B%5D=35064

[fferyllt]

K, just a couple of thoughts
-ff seems very snappy wrt others scumreading her
@ff given that you and cabd made a "pact" to leave before intermission, how does that jive with your current attitude? I would have expected u to shrug off the scumreads instead of engaging.

Because it grinds my gears to be misread. And getting this kind of crap continually when all I want to do help town as much as I can before I leave the game on top of being misread very much gets under my skin.

I don't want to be anywhere near elo.

So.

Why are you even asking me this?

[Gypyx]

Sure, sorry if someone asked you this already, but what do you think of Skitter and FireisRed?
They seem like the most readable people right now from the simple angle of posting density, but I'm bouncing off their posts when I try to read them.

Gonna be real with you i really didn't think about skitter's alignement yet, there's this weird mental block when i'm just unenthusiastic when getting to her

as for fireis i've got an accumulation of small townpings on them but i'm kinda waiting for her to answer my last thing cause i think that'll allow me to really get an idea of her mindset

i was kind of annoyed by it tbh but maybe i read hostility into it that wasn't intended. it's possible im doing that a lot this game i dunno

i don't really know what to say about it anyway though. i wasn't saying she isn't allowed to townread spiffeh. i just wanted her to talk more about it because 1) if she's town im interested in hearing her thoughts because she knows spiffeh better than i do and 2) if she's scum i think it's useful to have more detailed thoughts on record and 3) what she says may help me determine her alignment. it's fine i guess if she doesn't want to explain her reads. it seems like she wants to be left alone for now. idk. the thing i said about people townreading others weirdly easily wasn't especially about her

i'm sorry, the rudeness was me kinda lashing out at you, this was uncalled for

ok that's fair i just misunderstood you point, think your reaction is towny

once again sorry

[RH9]

Yes

noted.

[Enchant]

Low Effort Gaming.

[Spiffeh]

I am actually v interested in ur reads

not nearly enough data but slightly lean scummy:
[LLD, cabd, gypyx, rce]

kinda scummy:
[firebringer]

i don't think i would necessarily say that firebringer is my strongest scumread but that may be because im not sure that i have a solid scumread anywhere. previously it was spiffeh for a while but now im less sure on that

I understand that your reads list is probably rightfully not really considering this, but how do you reconcile having Cabd and FB so low when they've both vocally and confidently claimed they will be leaving the dance at some point before endgame? This is something I'd really only expect from town as scum can easily be held accountable for statements like these. Is this something that's reflected in your read on them, or does this not really matter to you?

[Spiffeh]

-mindmelding with fire on his spiffeh scumread. idt I caught on to why exactly fire has that read
fmpov tho, spiffeh had a very analytical opening that I liked, but he's fallen off a lot since in terms of depth of analysis. Also, idt he ever explained why he townreads ff, which looks really bad if ff were to flip town

My fferylit townread is something I've explained a couple times, albeit nothing super substantial until recently in my post 1318 (sorry idk how to link posts anymore).

What about my interaction with the fferylit suspicion specifically makes you think that I "look bad" if she flips town? This feels a little like you're trying to line me up to take the fall in the event that she flips town upon leaving the dance, which feels a little bad given you've mischaracterized how I've handled that read. Would I look bad if someone like STD flipped town? That is actually a town read I haven't really substantiated yet, so I'm a little confused as to why you're assigning badness to me wrt ffery's town flip and not the potential town flips of the slots that actually fit your stated criteria?

I don't particularly hate too much of LavarManos' content other than the above, but there's also nothing in there that makes me desperately need to save that slot from being left behind this phase.

I would also be interested in hearing Ydrasse's thoughts on her final four (?) potential pairings and which she most wants to be left behind.

[Spiffeh]

Kinda bummed that Cabd keeps touting this hero-solve before intermission but has yet to really weigh in on who should be left behind this phase when I'd think that would something he'd want some input in and would lay a good foundation for said hero-solve?

Unless I missed a post from him or something

[Spiffeh]

I don't have much of a read on Enchant but I will say that of everyone his entrance seemed the most desperate to lock in a pairing early, which is kind of how I expected scum to approach this game. I haven't really sensed any desperation from him recently though, and I'd expect scum to become more and more anxious to pair as the options start being limited.

I also kind of agree with whoever said that RCE not really trying to lock in a pair for himself doesn't quite align with him being scum.

I'm wondering if this is just something I just shouldn't take into consideration because I don't feel like thinking too hard about it

[skitter30]

I kinda feel like spiffeh might be scum

[Spiffeh]

No

Firebringer

skitter

[RCEnigma]

I am actually v interested in ur reads

not nearly enough data but slightly lean scummy:
[LLD, cabd, gypyx, rce]

kinda scummy:
[firebringer]

i don't think i would necessarily say that firebringer is my strongest scumread but that may be because im not sure that i have a solid scumread anywhere. previously it was spiffeh for a while but now im less sure on that

I understand that your reads list is probably rightfully not really considering this, but how do you reconcile having Cabd and FB so low when they've both vocally and confidently claimed they will be leaving the dance at some point before endgame? This is something I'd really only expect from town as scum can easily be held accountable for statements like these. Is this something that's reflected in your read on them, or does this not really matter to you?

Not to step in for fire but.

I think you’re ignoring that slots like Cabd,FB,LLD, don’t have a high probability end game route as either alignment. If we can agree on that, an extra phase is a lot more valuable to any of those slots as scum than as town.

Just as a general hypothetical, if you were scum that knew you were exiting what would your play be?

[RCEnigma]

I’m sure someone exists that can read enchant but I can’t. But I also know he operates really well in a PT setting so I’d be fine with enchant/Ydrasse on a prove it contract.

Also, stronger feelings of cakes!town than I had yesterday.

[Enchant]

I can read Enchant

[skitter30]

Kinda bummed that Cabd keeps touting this hero-solve before intermission but has yet to really weigh in on who should be left behind this phase when I'd think that would something he'd want some input in and would lay a good foundation for said hero-solve?

Unless I missed a post from him or something

Do u think cabd should be townreading you and gypyx so strongly?

[RCEnigma]

I can read Enchant

Can you? Can you REALLY though?

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Here’s my 2 cents on Enchant.

I think if Enchant is town, I respect their read accuracy.
But on the other hand… yeah.

[Bell]

I can read Enchant

So? What alignment are you this game?

[Bell]

For all my yadayada and etcetera etcetera, I’m generally against players being eliminated simply because they can be good at being scum.

[Bell]

I kinda feel like spiffeh might be scum

I might be scum.
Everyone might be scum. You don’t know.
None of us know if we’re all scum.
Except Pooky.

[Enchant]

I can read Enchant

Can you? Can you REALLY though?

100% Accuracy.

But right now is not game about being suspicious or not, it's about being likeble.


Previous game where "i was correctly read as town", only reason i was paired because cakes was way worse (somehow), and even then, i got scammed and left the dance late.