Kemusan - Game Over

[RH9]

after this snipe

[RH9]

take no notice of half-asleep rh9 posting

[Spiffeh]

Can someone explain their fferylit scum read? I’m seeing it so much but still not getting it, what am I missing?

[RCEnigma]

Hi.

Greetings.

Salutations.

The world greeted me with both a feverish toddler AND 50k in damages flooding in my basement today.

It's 11:40 PM, I'm on like my 3rd caffeine-weed pill of the day, and I am fucking exhausted.

But out of the goodness of my heart, I will declare thusly: Ffery is so badly missing her old haunts that she's decided to just blitz through all the buzzwords now to get to the meat early. And... groan.... that means my chances for taking the leg up in our perpetual (not mylo fuck that setup) grind are up in smoke.

Lavar I think Cabd articulated well why ffer felt inorganic at this point in the game. On top of that it wasn’t to compound with FB/Bells read.

That being said it gave their reads a more genuine feel. It still holds. That said my bell read has evolved past this but my FB read hasnt.

Also there’s smoke around Ffer so I could be wrong about choosing to read it that way but I don’t know where or in what way.

[RCEnigma]

I don’t really have a read on ffer either way but I do feel like scum are positioning around the slot in particular in some way.

[skitter30]

Spoiler:

fferylit, Bell Town
Gypyx, Firebringer probably Town

(But I do this thing with Firebringer where I townread him early based off a couple posts and then fail to reevaluate so I'm not gonna do that this time)

RH9's entrance was pretty bad imo but then he had one post that was fine so who knows? I also like that ffery had this exact same thought process and it makes me feel good about myself (and her).

scum!Cabd knows that he has to come into this thread talking a big game about pairing up with/reading ffery so nothing alignment indicative for him so far. I am happy for them to pair up so they can hold each other accountable and maybe I don't have to try to read Cabd because ffery will catch him first if he's bad.

I want someone to pair up with LLD who will not be easily manipulated by her if she happens to be scum and will be willing to leave the dance if she hasn't caught at least two scum by the final phase. I get that these are high standards and open for reevaluation as the game progresses but I can just see scum!LLD being able to dominate this setup if a few key players are removed and with Cabd/fferylit likely pairing up I'm already paranoid of that. For the record, I currently have a town lean on her.

I don't particularly like fireisredsir's posts and would probably be voting there if this were a standard game but I don't have words for this read rn

I am excited to be playing with you all again/for the first time!

Spiffeh that is a surprising amount of sync. Reminds me of WH13.

At this table who among the gents do you think aren't easily manipulable by a hypothetical scum LLD?

So I am easily manipulated by scum LLD but I think my constant paranoia and fear of her scum game would outweigh anything she could do to me so I am willing to pair with her. I selfishly kind of don't want to because I don't want to be in a position where I end up taking us both out as town due to said paranoia and ruin the game for everyone. But I am good with pairing with her if people think it could be optimal, and she accepts of course.

Take all of this with a grain of salt as I have never played this setup before and I'm trash at mechanic-talk, AND I want to ensure everyone's posted and weighed in before making decisions like these, but these are the pairings I've been thinking up in my head:

fferylit/Cabd
Spiffeh/LLD
Ydrasse/someone scummy
Bell/anyone

Assuming all of us were town (statistically unlikely), scum would have some pretty powerhouse pairs to decide on killing and it would ensure at least some people I work well with/trust would be in the game by the last two phases which is what I care about.

@fire
You asked why i was townreading spiffeh, was for these posts, they feel very townie to me
In particular, the approach to lld in the first one and his thoughts on how people should be pairing feel like they're coming from a town .mindset

[skitter30]

Can someone explain their fferylit scum read? I’m seeing it so much but still not getting it, what am I missing?

A lot of her posts have a sense of being ~constructed to me, like she's trying to make herself sound like her town self but something feels kinda subtly off when she's trying to do that. Her entrance in particular feels like she's trying to hit the points her town-self would, but misses somehow

Also a lot of her later posts are kinda opaque and like she's trying to make a big deal abt Having Reads and Sorting but i don't feel like there's actually substance behind a lot of her posts and lines of questioning


An example would be 915 - i feel like we already established that i thought she/fire could be svs. She's asking why her townflip would/might change my read on fire/alleviate the sr. To me this seems kind of obvious - if i'm reading them as svs, and one half flips t, i'd need ro re-evaluate, because the reason for scumreading tbe other wouldnt be there as much anymore, which is what i said. But the line of quesrioning to me seems kind of lacking substance because i feel like this shouod be an obvious thought process

Also in that convo, the throwaway lines abt 'what would a weak scumteam be doing here, etc' feel like saying things to look like she's having Complicated Thoughts abt the game. Despite asking a couple of times, I wasn't able to get her to flesh this thought out in any way that is meaningful, or elicidates why this would be important to her. This is the kind of thing where I feel like she's trying to have deep thoughts without the substance being there

[HolySpiritTurtle]

My slight townread is about 50% not going to worry about sorting you for now. I've pretty much always scumread your (town) play early-mid day 1 of the games we've played and been wrong. So maybe I should be townreading you for stuff I find scummy. Maybe I don't have to figure you out this time. Maybe I'll eventually get you right regardless of your alignment. Maybe I'll take strong townreads' opinions into account.

Regardless, I'll save the brain cells for other reads for now.

yeah see the thing is last game i just finished 2 out of 4 scum both said they couldn't read me right and refused to go into any reasons on me then just gave bs excuses to townread me or weak scum reasons without pushing me.

So i take this whole "i am not going to think about you" as a scum claim from u.

Ok, you've clearly demonstrated you have no fucking idea how to read me so far.

So, you'll either get better and figure it out, or I'll laugh at you forever until you do actually demonstrate some level of competence at reading me.

Since you've decided everything I post is scum-indicative, I'm sure you'll find some more bricks for your tunnel in this one. Have fun with it.

This is like that one kid who never curses trying to curse and it’s adorable.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

On the other hand, I have like 20 pages to read

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Actually I lied I'm just gonna read the whole game fuck it

Town

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Oh wait I thought this said “I’m just gonna read and not do anything else”

Maybe not as much

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Page 31 so I have a reference for myself.

People keep say “as long as yall don’t last until endgame”

HST predicts that the endgame will contain all the pairs that yall never wished to see in endgame.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Genuine question, how many scum are in this game again?

Uhhhhhh

[HolySpiritTurtle]

have i said skitter very town enough yet

No not enough before I forgot you said it before reading this post

[HolySpiritTurtle]

btw, ffery, what are your thoughts on enchant pairing with anybody?
you've mentioned every gent but them in your post on who you want paired.

I'm leaning on HST's read. Enchant's not on my list of gents I wouldn't want to see paired.

You want me to read Enchant? Dang.

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Ffffffff

If you could pick one lady for me to pair with, whom would you pick

Who do you think you'll be able to get a good read on?

Ydra

[HolySpiritTurtle]

Maybe STD is town. Maybe. Just maybe.
Or is it the year of the dragon instilling a secret bias upon me?

[HolySpiritTurtle]

I have 11. But when I look at the 5 it does not give me confidence at all. I’ll have to level up the filter.

[RCEnigma]

Actually I lied I'm just gonna read the whole game fuck it

Town

Facts

[skitter30]

i probably want to pair with like spiffeh, rce, or maybe std

[Save The Dragons]

i am warming up to a potential skitter pairing

[Save The Dragons]

i know, that was pretty romantic of me

"i'm warming up to you, babe"

[Bell]

For a dragon that usually means they’re about to blast someone with fire.

[Bell]

Actually I lied I'm just gonna read the whole game fuck it

Town

Facts

Say more.

[Save The Dragons]

For a dragon that usually means they’re about to blast someone with fire.

that's usually "you're warming up to me"