Mini 702--Serum & Steel(The rust has settled/Game Over)

[CF Riot]

I might favor Vi if it weren't for the possibility of insta-loss tonight,

Why do you think this would be insta-lose? You think that Vi is town AND there will still be 2 NK's tonight if he's dead?

How do we "test" TM's flesh claim by lynching him? If he's telling the truth he...dies.

And? What would be wrong with that?

No one has given a good reason for no-lynching today. I don't see what it would get us. That said, given Pork's views on the SK present doomsday predictions, I'm fine lynching Vi. If he flips town, I'm seriously hoping there will only be 1 NK tonight, and then we'll be back at 5 tomorrow with 2 scums. Not terrible odds for town.

Vote: Vi

L-1

[ortolan]

I'm not at all sure you're scum Vi. Consider this a gamble (deadline is today anyway).

Vote (lynch): Vi

[Vi]

w/e

kk

If there is an SK, you'd have to be correct that it's Vi

and

I'm scum,

or town loses.

Why the bolded?

@CF Riot: Detail precisely what you believe about the setup re: the presence of an SK (naming said SK if necessary) and/or the number of kills to expect.

[Vi]

Well, I hope I demonstrated if nothing else that I'm frustratingly tough to lynch. It's the one thing I pride myself on in this game.

Enjoy your LyLo. While I doubt one exists, I hope for your sake there is no SK.

Good night.

[Natirasha]

Vote Count
Vi(3): Porkens, ortolan, CF Riot
TonyMontana(2): Vi
geraintm(1): Illumina
Not Voting(5): TonyMontana, geraintm

Serum Count
Porkens(4): CF Riot, Vi, Porkens
Not Seruming(5): Illumina, TonyMontana, Porkens, geraintm, ortolan
Porkens has reached a majority of serum votes.

Synth Count
Illumina(4): Vi, CF Riot, Porkens
Not Synthing(5): Illumina, TonyMontana, Porkens, geraintm, ortolan
Illumina has reached a majority of mycosynth votes.

[Vi]

...Actually, the above vote count is correct... minus that I'm not voting for anyone IIRC. <.<;; (But that can be remedied at will.)

Re: 1152 - I thought that was ortolan speaking in the second quote (and I typed Porkens anyway >_> ).
It doesn't

require

Illumina to be scum, just that TonyMontana and geraintm both aren't.

[Natirasha]

[quote="Vote Count 3.5.2"]Vote Count
Vi(3): Porkens, ortolan, CF Riot
geraintm(1): Illumina
Not Voting(4): TonyMontana, geraintm, Vi

Serum Count
Porkens(4): CF Riot, Vi, Porkens
Not Seruming(5): Illumina, TonyMontana, Porkens, geraintm, ortolan
Porkens has reached a majority of serum votes.

Synth Count
Illumina(4): Vi, CF Riot, Porkens
Not Synthing(5): Illumina, TonyMontana, Porkens, geraintm, ortolan
Illumina has reached a majority of mycosynth votes.

[Illumina]

Ok, I seriously doubt we'll move in a different direction at this point. Still not sure if this is the right play, but I will

Unvote: geraintm

and

Vote: Vi

.

[Porkens]

Ok, I seriously doubt we'll move in a different direction at this point. Still not sure if this is the right play, but I will Unvote: geraintm and Vote: Vi.

hahahahhahahahahhahahah. Good one.

Well, now, vee shall see!

I'm still confident that we'll get the SK flip I've been expecting.

If it's town; muh bad.

I hope my serum does something cool (why hasn't anyone jumped on me for flipping my opinion on that btw?)

[geraintm]

Illumia - the period i think you think i was stalling was over a weekend. i havent posted on a weekend the whole game
My role is not nonsensical. it is how the card is designed. every otehr player's role/card and their metalness has followed how the card is written, except you. you still have not explained to anyone why you are metal

i am sorry if i was too hasty with my post on friday, i thought it was my last post before deadline and so i got it out.

Remind me to post that this is one of the things I hate in MD.
If you're not abs. confident in what you're doing, don't put down permanent votes. Until N.B. made some executive decisions, it was quite likely that you messed us all over. Luckily, it didn't turn out to be the case.

Sorry. i was confident with where my vote was going though.

VI

Daykill: geraintm

what's this??

VI

Daykill: geraintm

geraintm, how much do you know about Magic: The Gathering? 'Just curious.

[/quote]


i've played the game since Onslaught block, so i played Mirrodin. I don't read the books though so i don't know the storyline beyond vague outlines. i know enough that mod would not have made illumia metal.

i think he worked out there were good odds with 2 lots of serum of the SK being triggered before the game ended

A neutral survivor with a one-shot-per-serum kill? That's even worse; try to think of the winning strategy for that and you'll see what I mean.

i imagined it as townie who flipped SK uponbeing SKed

I also meant to say earlier that I've seen games where when 1 scum dies, the remaining team members get an extra kill that night. Just sayin'.

really? that makes the game in a town of N with X serial killers not
(n-k) vs k
instead
(n-k-k) vs k
????

[ortolan]

I deliberately left that in the open to see who would hammer

Illumina decides to, despite very recently assuring us how convinced he is Vi is town, despite there being a "no lynch" option. Assuming no double kill, lynch Illumina tomorrow, myco geraintm then lynch the day after to claim the win for town imho

[Porkens]

I deliberately left that in the open to see who would hammer

Illumina decides to, despite very recently assuring us how convinced he is Vi is town, despite there being a "no lynch" option. Assuming no double kill, lynch Illumina tomorrow, myco geraintm then lynch the day after to claim the win for town imho

second.

[Vi]

I'm still confident that we'll get the SK flip I've been expecting.

If it's town; muh bad.

FAKE

you still have not explained to anyone why you are metal

LIAR

what's this??

Look at my wiki page.

Illumina decides to, despite very recently assuring us how convinced he is Vi is town, despite there being a "no lynch" option. Assuming no double kill, lynch Illumina tomorrow, myco geraintm then lynch the day after to claim the win for town imho

And all the people saying OMG LYNCH VI ODD NUMBERS SK VI BEST OPTION FOR TOWN TINFOIL HATS couldn't possibly have had any influence.

[geraintm]

you still have not explained to anyone why you are metal

LIAR

am confused, what have i lied about?

CF: Wait, so I'm scum just because my card is black? Also, Nim Lashers are metal creatures, according to wikipedia (and no, I didn't edit the page): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sp ... hering#Nim. Please don't try to misconstrue my role with selective quoting. Or is it advantageous for you to get rid of a metal town at this juncture?

http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/index.a ... ut=Spoiler
that is the gatherer link to the Nim creatures. none are metal except the replica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sp ... hering#Nim
that says there is a metal buildup in teh creature, but not that the creature is metal. metal creatures in magic the gathering are given the subtype artifact, see http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/CardDet ... ?&id=46041
as far as i am concerned, i don't beleive his claim at

at all

unless he can explain how he became metal which so far he hasnt. he has just said he was metal to start with because the Nim are metalic.
they are not.

why am i a liar? is it because he has explained why he is metal, but in a way that does not fit with the flavour of this game and i don't beleive him (said in a Bob Dylan whine...)

and sorry, i get the VI thing now. sorry. i was really freaked out you had vigged me or something.

[Vi]

It was because Illumina did try to explain, something about necrogen buildups.

But I see where you're coming from, so I will apologize for being so brazen in calling you out. (Sorry.)

[geraintm]

illuminas explanation to me doesn't stand up though, itis why i have been banging on for so long about it

and you can call me out as much as you like, but i feel on pretty strong ground here. do you think illumina has a case to asnwer?? or is it just me?

[Vi]

do you think illumina has a case to asnwer?? or is it just me?

The case on Illumina, as far as I can remember, had to do with a delayed claim and claiming Nim Lasher. This is basically WIFOM, as the rationale for delaying the claim was that a metal wouldn't want to fullclaim immediately. Which is rather understandable... if you believe it.
The rest of the commentary on Illumina has led to a slightly pro-Town result based on wanting to question the random seruming. The hop onto the SSK wagon was kinda neutral IMO; it could go either way. Probably the most outstanding point was the recent hammer, which I would like a decent investigation into (read: not a witch hunt).

So no, I don't think the case on Illumina is that good once you take away the claim. Of course, if I've forgotten something (I'm certainly not doing a reread now) or if Porkens has anything better, you can check that out. But then my opinion on Porkens is turning back to what it was before SSK was strung up.

[Porkens]

[Porkens]

my tinfoil hat is screaming at me about CF and Ort still.

[ortolan]

Vi- the other point against Illumina is that he is "Town-aligned"

That's probably the most incriminating for me.

[CF Riot]

my tinfoil hat is screaming at me about CF

Why?

[ortolan]

We *have* lynched Vi now haven't we?

[Vi]

We *have* lynched Vi now haven't we?

I've had the majority of the Town in an angry mob against me for a week, five or six votes where four are necessary, two memoir posts, and about half a day to rot; and I'm still not dead.
I love my meta.

Vi- the other point against Illumina is that he is "Town-aligned"

That's probably the most incriminating for me.

Realistically speaking, is that a larger concern than the metal claim?

my tinfoil hat is screaming at me about CF and Ort still.

ATTENTION DUELISTS!

My hat is suspicious of you!

(...sorry, couldn't resist)

[Nicol Bolas]

Vi was strung up on a noose. He was

Triskellion, town-aligned Metal Fleet

.

Night Four.

[Nicol Bolas]

The night ends. The first thing that is noticed is that

CF Riot, town-aligned Neurok Spy

was killed, more specifically evaporated. However, laying not even three feet away are the remains of geraintm,

the mafia-aligned metal technogod himself, Memnarch

. His remains are sandviched between two copper buns.

In the distance, you hear a large crash. Going towards it, you find a dead Tarmogoyf. Next to it is

Illumina, Arcbound Ravager, self-aligned Metal Eater

. She walks off, finally killing that beast that has stalked it for so long.

In short, CF Riot(town) has died. geraintm(mafia) has died. And Illumina(self) has fulfilled her win condition and left the game.

That doesn't mean the game is over, though. With 4 alive, it is now day four.