Open 897 - Cop 17er [DAY 6]

[Firebringer]

how can zebras even believe in favors, that requires the social concept of giving back what is owed. Do zebras believe in this?

[Enchant]

You think i replace in games out of good will?

No, it's all ploy to force all mods to play mine poorly designed games, because they owe me.

Totally.

[yessiree]

Enchant playing chess while we are playing checkers

[Alisae]

prodding Bella and Dave

[Alisae]

V OTECOUNT 5.4
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
yessiree (3)	Bingle, Theta Alpine, Doctor Drew
davesaz (2)	Firebringer, usesPython
Bellaphant (1)	davesaz
Enchant (1)	yessiree
NOT VOTING: Bellaphant, Enchant
With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2024-02-06 05:47:54)
Notes:

[usesPython]

Deadline's coming up. We're ok with Theta/dave and can do bella/yes man if it's needed

[davesaz]

i do kind of hate how Bella has not used her vote once in this game day.
Its really kind of annoying given how long this game day has gone and she just hasn't voted at all.

I can forgive her for not being here for most of the game day but this is just handicapping us from actually doing anything.

You're finally beginning to see the reason she's scum.

[Theta Alpine]

alright i am here for today
i continue to think it is yess and python

i do not think it is dave

bella is
i was under the impression they were town for most of the game though i could perhaps do a reread

[usesPython]

alright i am here for today
i continue to think it is yess and python

Is this an individual "Python scum and also yes man scum" or a combined "Python/yes man scum together" read

[Theta Alpine]

combined

i believe you are scum together

[Enchant]

VOTE: yessiree

Patience.

[Firebringer]

imagine alisae delays deadline for replacement for bellaphant.

[usesPython]

Enchant willingly giving up the chance to hammer by putting yes man at e-1, wow

[yessiree]

i will accept a mislim on me at this point just to move the game forward, since it's impossible to get a lim elsewhere even with Bella's vote when bingle/drew/enchant are dead set on voting my slot

[yessiree]

Enchant willingly giving up the chance to hammer by putting yes man at e-1, wow

scum really do want me dead this game

[yessiree]

theta -> enchant -> bella -> dave

my order is probably this

tho if theta flips scum, Hu Tao/Bingle slot is worth a re-visit, there's sufficient partner energy there

[yessiree]

if theta/enchant somehow both flip town, there's prob one scum in bella/dave and another deep wolf somewhere else, in that case congrats i guess

[yessiree]

Spoiler: naerys' entire voting history d1 + d2

VOTE: Furtive
Hello folks

More votes on yessiree please

VOTE: yessiree
As you command, your grace!

i haven't found a single scum case this game to be compelling to be fair

This kind of post feels scummy, i have seen scum using similiar phrases like
"i have too many TR" or "i dont have any SR"

Sus on FB

Whose your scumreads outside of me then

yessiree and Hu or python

Scumcase me then

What are your reads? What are u doing except saying something witty and disappearing?You are not doing anything, not solving, not helping to move game forward.
Sorry but you need to go.
VOTE: Hu Tao

VOTE: Titus
Someone hmmer,thx

You're next if I don't see a vote.

VOTE: davesaz

Defending DE as town this game wasn’t on my bingo card but VOTE: Titus

I buy that he’s just town here.

Hmm... yea RCE doesnt really look good here. It feels like he just needed an excuse to buss partner.
VOTE: RCE

Okay, for today there are main three suspects: yessiree, myself, davesaz
As for myself, i am town. Whenever you feel some concer about me, feel free to throw it at me. I will answer them as best as i can, even if i sometimes yell my frustration out.

yessiree

- Well he is hard to read for me, played only one game with him, where he was alien. And i have to admit that i basically spent whole game following Flavor without paying much attention, so its quite hard for me to compare yessiree in that game with him here. I will be frank, i dont like his levity. Is he always like this? That faked hammer is giving me bad vibes.
@yessiree Who are your solid town reads and whom do you SR?

davesaz

- I am getting town vibes from dave. He is sorting people and their actions. I personally like his inputs, he is observant and calm. I dont see any manipulations or hidden agenda going on there. I need to look at why FB is voting him, beceause i dont see this dave to be scummy at all.
Dave, who is the most towny person for you?

Out of these 2, yessiree looks worse.

Lim:yessiree,RCE
Keep here: davesaz

VOTE: yessiree
I kinda want this day to end, tbh

on day 1 she voted furt, me, hutao, and Titus. Furt's vote was kinda an irrelevant rvs vote. Parked on me the longest with the premise of RVS, but turned it into a real SR and stayed on during the Titus counter wagon phase. Later on, went after Hu Tao who was being pressured from multiple people at the time. Finally relented and settled on Titus when her lim became inevitable

on day 2 she voted dave, RCE, and me again. The dave vote was short-lived and it wasn't really backed up with anything substantial. Hopped on a more popular wagon on RCE right after the dave vote. Dropped a TR on dave later on with a seemingly opaque progression afaik, preferring to vote me out of the bunch.

strictly looking at her voting behvaior, i see a clear conservative mindset of only going after easy/safe targets on town, while preferring to protect scum buddies as much as she could. this is why i think i should be practically cleared at this point - parking on me when my wagon was competing with Titus, switching target on Hu when she got heat were all patterns that adhere to this paradigm

an interesting observation could be made about dave tho - you could look at it in 2 ways. she approached him with a townread to get on his good side when there was a 3-way competing wagons between dave/naerys/yess, which would point to town!dave

on the other hand, according to her paradigm of protecting buddies, voting dave as a joke then quickly retracting it with a clear townread could be interpreted as protecting dave as a buddy and directing the pressure onto me. this would point to scum!dave and town!yess, but again this is all me towncasing myself so take it with a grain of salt, but worth a consideration if dave was ever in lilo

[Enchant]

Throwing big posts every time you are in danger huh

[usesPython]

Throwing big posts every time you are in danger huh

Is that actually scum indicative or is it more of a sign that no one has any motivation to play anymore

[usesPython]

Who wants to throw theta out of the airlock with us

[yessiree]

VOTE: theta

[yessiree]

Throwing big posts every time you are in danger huh

"stop analyzing my scum buddy!!!"

[Enchant]

Throwing big posts every time you are in danger huh

Is that actually scum indicative or is it more of a sign that no one has any motivation to play anymore

I am allergic to big letters, especially if they can be stated in simple 5-6 words and inflated just for sake of that.

[usesPython]

VOTE: theta