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Post Post #2825 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:51 pm

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I'm just in the space where there are so few roles townWheme could have that CAN'T potentially fuck scum here that I'm happy with the threat being its own payoff.
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Post Post #2826 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:52 pm

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In post 2825, Bingle wrote: I'm just in the space where there are so few roles townWheme could have that CAN'T potentially fuck scum here that I'm happy with the threat being its own payoff.
Fine, guess you'll deal with that tomorrow.
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Post Post #2827 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:53 pm

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I guess i'm done, out of the 3, T3's the closest to lim i guess
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Post Post #2828 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:53 pm

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Yeah, we're burning down the same house, I think, Sakura. Unless I'm really off base this game just is that easy at this point. I feel bad for potential jj scum, cause he's playing a really good scum game to his outs, but I just really do think we're at a point where we only lose by overcomplicating things.
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Post Post #2829 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 2:56 pm

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Process of Elimination shouldnt fail here, i think there's a lot more worlds were Ceph's interactions with flipped scum make him town than not.
Only outlier is Cakez, as i dont know how hard would Pooky hard bus his team and Cakez likes busing, but then it'd mean Pooky literally cross bused with 2 teammates.
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Post Post #2830 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:01 pm

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In post 2807, Bingle wrote:
In post 2774, T3 wrote: Maybe? But again, the first post was a fairly hard read that shut down several people’s desire to vote Penguin
I... don't really see that. I see pooky making that post and not a lot of thread impact. I also don't think "Pengy is town because he's sheeping me" is a read that's likely to actually prevent people from voting Pengy, nor do I think pooky was likely to think that. Maybe people who were in the thread can weigh in and tell me the vibe was different in real time, but I don't at all get the impression that 678 was likely to ever really accomplish discouraging a lim, nor does it seem like pengy was a likely lim prospect at that point of the game. I think 1907 is more in line with maybe actually being a defense, but it doesn't seem like one that was designed to actually bear fruit.
I tend to find reads like that fairly convincing and that changed my opinion on Peng. It changed Sakura's too, iirc.
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Post Post #2831 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:03 pm

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In post 2812, Bingle wrote:
In post 2809, Sakura Hana wrote: Hmm is this something Gamma says to a partner?
I think Gamma is pretty quick to bus partners she gets frustrated with. Like, if she doesn't think they're doing enough to get endgame cred, I think she jumps right to the 'burn the bridge' stage.
At that point scum!me would have had a pretty good endgame position, I was fairly widely townread.
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Post Post #2832 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:06 pm

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In post 2824, Sakura Hana wrote: I kind of find it hard to find this interaction as SvS
In post 1265, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1263, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1260, Cephrir wrote: I can see that this is obviously not going to work so I'll stop. I mean, not that I was really trying very hard. the above concern they will actually go through is very not founded though, there are so many of you just desperate to do anything to keep this unpleasant person around which is odd but whatever.

VOTE: pooky
Who are you calling unpleasant???
I find it hard to believe you can't piece this together so I think this is probably you starting shit
In post 1274, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1269, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1265, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1263, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1260, Cephrir wrote: I can see that this is obviously not going to work so I'll stop. I mean, not that I was really trying very hard. the above concern they will actually go through is very not founded though, there are so many of you just desperate to do anything to keep this unpleasant person around which is odd but whatever.

VOTE: pooky
Who are you calling unpleasant???
I find it hard to believe you can't piece this together so I think this is probably you starting shit
Based on the vote I thought you meant pooky but I quickly thought it might have been BCG
KEEP IN MIND: I made in a mod error in my last completed game I ran because someone ranted about shit that had zero consequence on their night action in the NA submission PM! So
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Sorry, I was annoyed when I wrote that post
That is well within Gamma's scumrange and probably within Ceph's too
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Post Post #2833 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:07 pm

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Ceph's emotion felt genuine but on balance it's only a little +town
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Post Post #2834 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:09 pm

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In post 2810, Sakura Hana wrote: Across Ceph's posting, he only ever voted, Pooky, Gamma and T3.
I don't think Ceph ever voted me - didn't he also vote BCG at one point??
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Post Post #2835 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:11 pm

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In post 2834, T3 wrote:
In post 2810, Sakura Hana wrote: Across Ceph's posting, he only ever voted, Pooky, Gamma and T3.
I don't think Ceph ever voted me - didn't he also vote BCG at one point??
I meant jjh, woops
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Post Post #2836 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:12 pm

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In post 2835, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2834, T3 wrote:
In post 2810, Sakura Hana wrote: Across Ceph's posting, he only ever voted, Pooky, Gamma and T3.
I don't think Ceph ever voted me - didn't he also vote BCG at one point??
I meant jjh, woops
Usually scum exclusively or almost exclusively voting all their partners is more indicative of TMI than anything else
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Post Post #2837 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:15 pm

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In post 2836, T3 wrote:
In post 2835, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2834, T3 wrote:
In post 2810, Sakura Hana wrote: Across Ceph's posting, he only ever voted, Pooky, Gamma and T3.
I don't think Ceph ever voted me - didn't he also vote BCG at one point??
I meant jjh, woops
Usually scum exclusively or almost exclusively voting all their partners is more indicative of TMI than anything else
That would mean TP+jjh scum, which doesnt seem likely.
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Post Post #2838 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:17 pm

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In post 2805, jjh927 wrote: Very much feels like they're trying to appear to be doing more than they are doing

but yeah if I'm going to respond to that request to towncase T3 then I will do it in real time, because I think I've set out quite succinctly what makes T3 town and it's there if you actually look for it
TP has recently been ellitelling too - she asked jjh to towncase me, jjh said something to the effect of "I'll point the specific posts out to you at some point," at which point TP visited the site and posted elsewhere but didn't do anything here despite jjh's response.
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Post Post #2839 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:18 pm

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In post 2837, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2836, T3 wrote:
In post 2835, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2834, T3 wrote:
In post 2810, Sakura Hana wrote: Across Ceph's posting, he only ever voted, Pooky, Gamma and T3.
I don't think Ceph ever voted me - didn't he also vote BCG at one point??
I meant jjh, woops
Usually scum exclusively or almost exclusively voting all their partners is more indicative of TMI than anything else
That would mean TP+jjh scum, which doesnt seem likely.
That also seems very unlikely to me...
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Post Post #2840 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:19 pm

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In post 345, Cephrir wrote: VOTE: sir pookington
In post 508, Cephrir wrote: VOTE: bcg

im just not buying what this slot is selling
In post 1260, Cephrir wrote: I can see that this is obviously not going to work so I'll stop. I mean, not that I was really trying very hard. the above concern they will actually go through is very not founded though, there are so many of you just desperate to do anything to keep this unpleasant person around which is odd but whatever.

VOTE: pooky
In post 1668, Cephrir wrote: VOTE: gamma
In post 1749, Cephrir wrote: Feeling uneasy about gamma

VOTE: jjh
In post 1832, Cephrir wrote: Idg why pp is happening

Everything feels wrong now I'm gonna VOTE: pooky uselessly for a bit
Actually I don't think Ceph's vote history is all that alignment indicative - he voted jjh, BCG, and Gamma exactly once.
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Post Post #2841 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:20 pm

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In post 2833, T3 wrote: Ceph's emotion felt genuine but on balance it's only a little +town
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Post Post #2842 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:21 pm

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If that emotion is genuine, then that's town frustration. That's not the type of emotion you feel with a partner. If it's with a partner it's scum teather and fake.
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Post Post #2843 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:28 pm

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Anyway, i'll just say that i'll trust any assesment from T3/PP/jjh less than from Bingle, Cakez, TP.
If anything any objections provided by the former 3 will be met with a lot more scrutiny coz it could very well be scum trying to insert more suspects into the pool to avoid town obtaining autowin path.

For now back to the Yakuza rabbit hole i go.
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Post Post #2844 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:31 pm

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In post 2829, Sakura Hana wrote: Process of Elimination shouldnt fail here, i think there's a lot more worlds were Ceph's interactions with flipped scum make him town than not.
Only outlier is Cakez, as i dont know how hard would Pooky hard bus his team and Cakez likes busing, but then it'd mean Pooky literally cross bused with 2 teammates.
Characterizing Pooky's pushes as 'hard' is questionable given that he hard townread Cakez later in the day and his vote on Cakez just kind disappeared into nothingness

As far as I remember with Gamma, Pooky just made a 'truce' with Gamma and that was that
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Post Post #2845 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:31 pm

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His Dunn push actually had teeth
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Post Post #2846 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:33 pm

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In post 2843, Sakura Hana wrote:
For now back to the Yakuza rabbit hole i go.
Already at the end of chapter 2
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Post Post #2847 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:44 pm

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Right and if we're looking at Gamma, her defense of Cakez was weird too, she gave no real and good reasoning and I guess there was some emotion there but it was weird
In post 1389, Gamma Emerald wrote: This is an open call-to-action until stated otherwise: if kyouko attempts to eliminate Cakez after I die, kill her.
Compare that with her Ceph scumread or her Wheme bus in which the emotion was pretty clearly there
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Post Post #2848 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:47 pm

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I also find it weird that jjh is defending me but not really defending me
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Post Post #2849 (ISO) » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:49 pm

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Maybe not actually

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