Any chance that they knew this and decided to play Jester to scare people away?In post 2222, Flavor Leaf wrote: Before Maestro did all this, I was ready to end the day voting Maestro.
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i am not sure if scum would think of that actually soalter of rautherdir
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Giga brain strats if trueIn post 2221, Theta Alpine wrote: it might be a traitor trying to delay group from dying
hold on a moment
i just realized something
if scum started with a traitor then there are only two people that share the recruit action
if one of them dies then thomiths ability no longer applies to recruit does it
if the choice is between traitor and group scum elim right now
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Yes.In post 2225, Roden wrote:
Any chance that they knew this and decided to play Jester to scare people away?In post 2222, Flavor Leaf wrote: Before Maestro did all this, I was ready to end the day voting Maestro.
I say this thinking it was a dumb play since it is confirmed only 1 3rd party in the game.
It says how many hobbyists are in the game.
I don’t think this is most likely, though. I think jester stuff is open trollingCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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The way it's worded this may be trueIn post 2224, Flavor Leaf wrote:
So you’re saying Maestro as group scum purposefully goes down, and then Thomith’s role wouldn’t effect the other Group scum, and scum get to convert?In post 2221, Theta Alpine wrote: it might be a traitor trying to delay group from dying
hold on a moment
i just realized something
if scum started with a traitor then there are only two people that share the recruit action
if one of them dies then thomiths ability no longer applies to recruit does it
if the choice is between traitor and group scum elim right now
is it actually better for scum to have a group scum flip-
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This is the only interesting post I can find. I assume he said this because of the real names being listed in the FG. Would a Traitor out this info though?In post 98, KittyTacky wrote:
I have a strong suspicion that the cult can use names to convert. You're nullifying town's advantage by massclaiming so nah.In post 29, Radical Rat wrote: Essentially, what I believe massclaiming offers is everyone knowing who they're targeting instead of having to guess if theirs is a role that targets flavor names. Whether this is a net benefit to Town or to Scum depends on the exact roles in play, which we do not know, nor should we be trying to speculate on so early.
However, it is my belief that the chance is worth taking to enforce consistency and accountability.
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They blew up after Dan voted them, though.
Dan self voted after maestro voted.
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It says that any actions shared by multiple acquaintances are prevented from happening
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Would a traitor even know that info?In post 2231, Roden wrote:
This is the only interesting post I can find. I assume he said this because of the real names being listed in the FG. Would a Traitor out this info though?In post 98, KittyTacky wrote:
I have a strong suspicion that the cult can use names to convert. You're nullifying town's advantage by massclaiming so nah.In post 29, Radical Rat wrote: Essentially, what I believe massclaiming offers is everyone knowing who they're targeting instead of having to guess if theirs is a role that targets flavor names. Whether this is a net benefit to Town or to Scum depends on the exact roles in play, which we do not know, nor should we be trying to speculate on so early.
However, it is my belief that the chance is worth taking to enforce consistency and accountability.
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I'm also given the example of: such as factional actions.In post 2233, Thomith wrote: It says that any actions shared by multiple acquaintances are prevented from happening
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Is it possible this is for the roles like the double Watcher claims or double neighborizer and not factional abilities?In post 2233, Thomith wrote: It says that any actions shared by multiple acquaintances are prevented from happening
That is paraphrased wording while keeping the same meaning.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
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I'm given "such as factional actions" as an example. Its also the only example I'm given.In post 2236, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Is it possible this is for the roles like the double Watcher claims or double neighborizer and not factional abilities?In post 2233, Thomith wrote: It says that any actions shared by multiple acquaintances are prevented from happening
That is paraphrased wording while keeping the same meaning.-
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if both are already doomed to be eliminated anyways then group scum going down first would actually let them stay even on their own wincon instead of losing a tempo from thomiths abilityIn post 2227, Flavor Leaf wrote: I don’t think it’s better for Group Scum to go down still
except if we did the group scum and then the second group scum without eliminating the traitor at all of coursealter of rautherdir
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If group scum want to nullify the dance party by only having one group scum, they still never auto win. Even if they have 5 total members now and get dropped down to 4, even if they get another successful conversion and go back up to 5, it's vs 6 town.-
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Unless the recruit isn't a factional ability, but that feels kinda bullshit if true?In post 2237, Thomith wrote:
I'm given "such as factional actions" as an example. Its also the only example I'm given.In post 2236, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Is it possible this is for the roles like the double Watcher claims or double neighborizer and not factional abilities?In post 2233, Thomith wrote: It says that any actions shared by multiple acquaintances are prevented from happening
That is paraphrased wording while keeping the same meaning.-
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Group scum is still better to hit. I can’t see group scum giving themselves up.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Probably not. Though Kitty explained his reasoning by saying it wasn't a difficult conclusion to come to in the first place. Which I don't disagree with.In post 2234, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Would a traitor even know that info?In post 2231, Roden wrote:
This is the only interesting post I can find. I assume he said this because of the real names being listed in the FG. Would a Traitor out this info though?In post 98, KittyTacky wrote:
I have a strong suspicion that the cult can use names to convert. You're nullifying town's advantage by massclaiming so nah.In post 29, Radical Rat wrote: Essentially, what I believe massclaiming offers is everyone knowing who they're targeting instead of having to guess if theirs is a role that targets flavor names. Whether this is a net benefit to Town or to Scum depends on the exact roles in play, which we do not know, nor should we be trying to speculate on so early.
However, it is my belief that the chance is worth taking to enforce consistency and accountability.
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assuming thomith is true claiming
if we do the traitor and then group scum then they cannot win on the group scum elimination
if we do the group scum and then the traitor then they can potentially win after the traitor elimination
however this just means we can just do whichever one first and then if group scum we need to find the other group scum instead of going for traitor
depending on how close they are to winning of course that caution might not be needed
we have no clue how many converts were successful right nowalter of rautherdir
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and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum-
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Do we know exactly when Maestro first claimed their role? Was it before or after NK15's elim?-
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I think scum want us to go Maestro.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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No, I was trying to find that out.In post 2244, Roden wrote: Do we know exactly when Maestro first claimed their role? Was it before or after NK15's elim?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
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If you'reIn post 2245, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think scum want us to go Maestro.thisconvinced then I'll go Dan.-
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I’m notIn post 2247, Thomith wrote:
If you'reIn post 2245, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think scum want us to go Maestro.thisconvinced then I'll go Dan.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Thomith He/TheyMafia ScumHe/They
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I kinda wanna townbloc Roden FL Theta for the past few pages.
Trusted FL and Roden already, and I've liked Theta's posting at EoD
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