"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
In post 4880, Theta Alpine wrote:
i mean i do think lemon could be scum with yess
but only with yess
and the reasons i have seen people scum reading naerys for are really bad
the issue i have with the yess - naerys/lemon scum pairing is that I found the lemon defense of yessir to be very overblown I think RCE explains it in this post here;
I have been hard defending yessir for 2 days straight. But I have been having SERIOUS doubt since there is a fair bit of circumstantial evidence pointing towards yessir being scum.
At this point I’m holding out because I want to be right about yessir.
So if I, as yessir’s biggest supporter, am standing on a shaky foundation then it makes me scratch my head on how you can be this confident on them being town.
and the way Lemon uses it to "self meta" himself as "definitely town because he's defending yessiree" just feels like that's the reason he did it to begin with
like lemon can be telling the truth about his meta that he has
never
before actually defended town as scum
and this could in fact be the first time he's trying to do it - which explains why his white-knighting looks so bad and poorly done - he has no experience actually whiteknighting a townie so he comes off as extremely fake when he does it.
also the entire conversation with me where I'm ripping into him for self metaing and he's trying to convince me to believe in his "self-meta" and "find him as town" felt like he had completely forgotten that he was scumreading/voting me as being scum for sure or whatever he said about me earlier which is ? to me.
overall I actually dont feel confident about this SR at all but I'm just kind of tired of getting nowhere this game
I might reread a bunch of titus games to figure out how she likes to interact with partners but I just lack any motivation atp
I have quite a few games of me defending people as town if thats something you would want to read. I also did i say that i find talking about meta not really great.
However my opinion still stands from what i said then and has only changed a little after reading back.
Trying to just hammer someone because a nightkill scummed them is infact a really bad case of conf biasing, especially when the guy was trying to show himself as town and all he got was "no you are wolf" answers
I said it there even how it was unreasonable. The could be wolf but to scum me because i didn't agree with you? So now i have to be partnered with him is just wrong on so many levels
I really don't see the need nor care enough to convince anyone im town, especially since it got to this. I don't know how being honest and not being petty anymore exactly equals "hes trying to convince me hes town" but im not exactly going to shut down yours thoughts.
Im just not exactly a fan of people hurting games by letting themselves get miselimed on purpose so thats why im here
In post 4864, lemon.tangerine wrote:
I don't believe going off meta (especially on someone you don't know) is exactly the most reliable but ive been pretty honest here so maybe you find me as town maybe you don't.
^ here you're asking me to find you as town - the implicit assumption is that you're talking to me as if I'm town trying to sort you and you are appealing to me to sort you as town.
Your vote/trajectory on me is that I'm mafia.
Nothing in our conversation makes me feel like you think I'm mafia pushing a mislim on you, you're trying to be "reasonable" and appealing to me to find you as town based on logic and self meta.
like if you think I'm mafia and you think I'm voting you based on wanting to mislim you and shut you up for being right about me why would you think I care about your self meta?
In post 4913, Aristeia wrote:
like if you think I'm mafia and you think I'm voting you based on wanting to mislim you and shut you up for being right about me why would you think I care about your self meta?
a vote doesnt exactly mean everything btw, i kinda forgot i voted you a long time ago, but thats besides the point. I read your iso a while back and you didnt exactly strike me as scum so i never really went back to you.
honestly don't know maybe python or the guy who only looks for the worst in ppl (erc enigma something like that name i already forgot) but pythons wagon is kinda already dead in the water. Ill probably find someone else after i get the readlist done today
In post 4909, lemon.tangerine wrote:
I have quite a few games of me defending people as town if thats something you would want to read. I also did i say that i find talking about meta not really great.
However my opinion still stands from what i said then and has only changed a little after reading back.
Trying to just hammer someone because a nightkill scummed them is infact a really bad case of conf biasing, especially when the guy was trying to show himself as town and all he got was "no you are wolf" answers
I said it there even how it was unreasonable. The could be wolf but to scum me because i didn't agree with you? So now i have to be partnered with him is just wrong on so many levels
Is the following summation accurate?
Yess had bad vibes based on NKA, and you were like: that doesn’t sit well with me.
Peeps(ari?) started pushing you as scum for defending yes.
If so, do you have reasons to townread yes, or just reasons to NAI read them. Feel free to answer with post numbers if this has been addressed.
Meuh is town because you gotta read her as a cheerful lighthearted 17 year old girl who plays Mafia for funsies and doesn't care about being townread and likes to joke, and then everything she does makes sense.
And you might say "wouldn't she do this as either alignment?" and the answer is "technically it's possible, but from my experience with Meuh this
fluffposting
funposting is her way to interact with the game as town".
Which is just a very elaborate way of saying I'm meta townreading Meuh and I think her tone is towny. BUT I am 99.9% sure of this read. Please don't vote her.
I'm sorry but this isn't convincing at all and I'm a little surprised you think she's obvtown based on her tone