yeah
definitely a choice
i mean that has to be traitor signalling then right
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
In post 1807, Aureal wrote:
Oh, huh, that "started" never quite registered with me before. That would mean only two of the 3 original group have comms and they don't know who the third is. So that's yet another way that a recruitment could fail.
The pendulum of balance is swinging back to the side of "too many failure chances" for all this stuff to be true.
Traitor identity is presumably unknown to the main group so hitting them is a wasted shot
Gamma/Hu claimed Ascetic
Drew claimed rolestopper or something of the sort
Dan claimed some other sort of recruitment stopping
Rat was able to redirect actions on them and thus potentially avert recruitment depending on whether the target was recruitable
I was gonna wait to see what Leaf said, but since he didn't want to claim his results until I pushed him on his Traitor info and is now suddenly focused on that instead, I might as well get into it.
The scum team cannot actually start with a Traitor due to the info Leaf has given us. He's claimed that Traitors are not Enthusiasts, but Addicts. However...
correct me if i am wrong
but i believe traitors are still their faction
with enthusiasts there presumably being the faction name
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
In post 1826, Theta Alpine wrote:
yeah
definitely a choice
i mean that has to be traitor signalling then right
Possibly. The slot could just as easily be group scum trying to avoid investigatives. I want to see Hu Tao's response before coming to any conclusions though.
In post 1828, Theta Alpine wrote:
correct me if i am wrong
but i believe traitors are still their faction
with enthusiasts there presumably being the faction name
They are still presumably of the same faction, but the set up doesn't specifically label the faction and instead refers to three players as Enthusiasts. The Traitors are specifically being referred to as Addicts.
In post 1828, Theta Alpine wrote:
correct me if i am wrong
but i believe traitors are still their faction
with enthusiasts there presumably being the faction name
They are still presumably of the same faction, but the set up doesn't specifically label the faction and instead refers to three players as Enthusiasts. The Traitors are specifically being referred to as Addicts.
it
uses the same format as hobbyists and individual I'm that post which have proven with flips to be the other two factions
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
In post 1807, Aureal wrote:
Oh, huh, that "started" never quite registered with me before. That would mean only two of the 3 original group have comms and they don't know who the third is. So that's yet another way that a recruitment could fail.
The pendulum of balance is swinging back to the side of "too many failure chances" for all this stuff to be true.
Traitor identity is presumably unknown to the main group so hitting them is a wasted shot
Gamma/Hu claimed Ascetic
Drew claimed rolestopper or something of the sort
Dan claimed some other sort of recruitment stopping
Rat was able to redirect actions on them and thus potentially avert recruitment depending on whether the target was recruitable
I was gonna wait to see what Leaf said, but since he didn't want to claim his results until I pushed him on his Traitor info and is now suddenly focused on that instead, I might as well get into it.
The scum team cannot actually start with a Traitor due to the info Leaf has given us. He's claimed that Traitors are not Enthusiasts, but Addicts. However...
But I see Roden consistently arguing that kind of thing, and it generally comes from a town Roden, I think.
They argued incorrect semantics in the last 2 games I had with them. They were town in both of them.
In commercials, Roden argued about what a Neap would get. In Cook’s kitchen, argued about…i forget, but it was on Day 2, and I told Roden I don’t agree with those reasonings, but agreed with the conclusion there.
In post 1828, Theta Alpine wrote:
correct me if i am wrong
but i believe traitors are still their faction
with enthusiasts there presumably being the faction name
They are still presumably of the same faction, but the set up doesn't specifically label the faction and instead refers to three players as Enthusiasts. The Traitors are specifically being referred to as Addicts.
In post 1834, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Don’t know how much i like Roden thinking I as scum just wouldn’t look at that kind of thing, though
I was also gunna say, this feels like the Neap argument from the Mini.
I'm honestly inclined to trust Roden here.
It is worth noting when they replaced in, Hu Tao specified that they didn't have a guilty, but didn't say anything about being ascetic, which is interesting considering your outted report.
In post 1834, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Don’t know how much i like Roden thinking I as scum just wouldn’t look at that kind of thing, though
I was also gunna say, this feels like the Neap argument from the Mini.
I'm honestly inclined to trust Roden here.
It is worth noting when they replaced in, Hu Tao specified that they didn't have a guilty, but didn't say anything about being ascetic, which is interesting considering your outted report.
Yeah, it makes me feel better about Roden.
I noticed that too with Hu Tao omitting the Ascetic part. I almost called them out then, but wanted to see where they pushed.
I really don't think it's a coincidence they pushed Drew. I'm gonna let Hu Tao come on and respond to it, though.
In post 1625, Flavor Leaf wrote:
I am of the mindset that this is too bold of a play for Aureal to be scum.
Dan has group scum possibility for me too, really the only reason I see is that people are naturally following around him, and i think in this type of game, you kind of have to have that, especially with the given info. That’s how the nature of this game you find associations.
That being said, it’s hard to put that as anything but paranoia for me because that is something that can easily happen with a Town Dan, and they haven’t done anything really inherently scummy.
This is more of an Aureal defense than a Dan push, though.
I find it scummy that Aureal is pushing Dan because I don't see any valid logic behind that push, like you said he hasn't done anything inherently scummy
Oh yeah, what the heck does this mean? What is "inherently scummy" behavior?
like what has Dan done that looks like scummy behavior by itself, without mental gymnastics about positioning his team or whatever
I targeted Gamma, they weren’t Ascetic. I got a result. It was interesting to me I got a No Result on Dan and a result on Gamma, so I thought maybe coffee switched my targets or something.
I was trying to wait and see where the slot would push to see more, but the fact they went Drew makes me more confident in the idea that scum are revolving around Dan.
Dan pushed RR, and there was a large convergence around that.
Yes, I quick hammered, but Gamma Emerald put them to E-1, and has actively talked about how I quick hammer even my town reads early game.
I believe Gamma was manipulating me into hammering there.
Cult game with converts scum are going to revolve around a center, and Dan is that center.
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