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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:20 pm

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In post 1798, Theta Alpine wrote: okay hold on a moment
how many cult-stopping actions are claimed in the fg
drew is a rolestopper
dan is a claimed doctor-equivalent
nk15 was a traffic analyst
and if i read correctly someone else is claimed even worse then any of those

what lead you to this impression?
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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:49 pm

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something dan said a few times when talking about the roles claimed in the friends group
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as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:58 pm

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or you know
pretty easy to guess that that is the common theme that was mentioned earlier given what else is known
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:01 pm

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In post 1797, Roden wrote: Who claimed that the game started with 1 Traitor/Addict?
I need to start taking notes in these puzzle box-type games...

I'm gonna just read back and try to find it. I'm pretty sure whoever claimed it not only lied, but is group scum.
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:03 pm

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In post 1344, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1331, ActionDan wrote: I do have some questions about your passive info gathering part of your role. Can you spell out the pieces of info you started with and gained each night. I want to make sure it aligns with what my role implies about conversion flavor
I started with info, and then get it every night.

- convert with Real Names.

- started with a Traitor (flavored as an Addict)

- converts become Addicts.
Oh that was easy, it was just Leaf.

Why did you claim this earlier?
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:04 pm

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it was flavor leaf that claimed that as part of his information
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:11 pm

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and my thoughts about balance of the fg roles is probably wrong anyways if they are all gated to working inside of the fg so hmm
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:15 pm

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Oh, huh, that "started" never quite registered with me before. That would mean only two of the 3 original group have comms and they don't know who the third is. So that's yet another way that a recruitment could fail.

The pendulum of balance is swinging back to the side of "too many failure chances" for all this stuff to be true.

Traitor identity is presumably unknown to the main group so hitting them is a wasted shot
Gamma/Hu claimed Ascetic
Drew claimed rolestopper or something of the sort
Dan claimed some other sort of recruitment stopping
Rat was able to redirect actions on them and thus potentially avert recruitment depending on whether the target was recruitable
"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:17 pm

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maestro is apparently something of the same sort as sircakez is not of the same theme as the rest of fg if i remember correctly
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:18 pm

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And that means we only have to take out two people, not three. This might not be as bad as it seemed.

Hmmm

You don't suppose claiming Ascetic is a traitor signal, do you? "Don't target me, it won't work"
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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:20 pm

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without crumbing real name as well it would not be that useful for preventing recruits
though i have no clue how one would even go about crumbing that
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:22 pm

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They wouldn't know Gamma's real name to avoid targeting her, but it probably doesn't hurt anything and helps if they do find it out, or can narrow it down. And the Friends know each others' names so scum being in there would have a significantly shorter list to work with...
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:26 pm

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roden managed to find a way to prevent cult from targeting him and to get his real name out without drawing suspicion
though roden also probably had the ability he claimed i think
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:31 pm

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What?

Roden had a publicly announced self-watcher shot, or at least he claimed that's what it was. Heck, could've been watching someone else, or even just an ability to make an announcement written like it was a result for all I know.
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:34 pm

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i mean yeah it is some sort of public announce ability
and i imagine finley would have claimed to have not targeted roden if that was the case
so almost definitely
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:37 pm

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What if Finley targets by real name? Or just doesn't want their name linked to them?
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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:41 pm

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i mean
roden announced their real name so even if that was a real name targeted ability finley would know

only reason finley would not claim it they did not target roden would be if finley is cult and suspects roden to be cult
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:43 pm

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He announced his name? :?
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:45 pm

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Oh, guess I missed that because it was in the post-hammer craziness
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:46 pm

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Massive confusion here on why that was done
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 6:47 pm

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In post 1817, Aureal wrote: He announced his name? :?
yes
roden announced his real name to keep scum from being able to target him due to his announced self-watch
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:51 pm

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Alright imma claim it.

I targeted Gamma, they weren’t Ascetic. I got a result. It was interesting to me I got a No Result on Dan and a result on Gamma, so I thought maybe coffee switched my targets or something.

I was trying to wait and see where the slot would push to see more, but the fact they went Drew makes me more confident in the idea that scum are revolving around Dan.

Dan pushed RR, and there was a large convergence around that.

Yes, I quick hammered, but Gamma Emerald put them to E-1, and has actively talked about how I quick hammer even my town reads early game.

I believe Gamma was manipulating me into hammering there.

Cult game with converts scum are going to revolve around a center, and Dan is that center.
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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:58 pm

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lol nice

That helps my solving A LOT because I was basically just not considering that slot
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:01 pm

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Dan/Cakez or Dan/Titus with Hu as the starting traitor then maybe
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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Mon Jan 15, 2024 8:02 pm

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oh
well that makes it pretty easy to figure out then
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as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum

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