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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:38 pm

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In post 998, Roden wrote: Explain to me the benefit of cutting loose a 3p who acts as a shield against the scum team
because right now there are enough people i believe that want to eliminate the 3p as soon as possible that cutting them loose early is preferable to that happening
unless i am miscounting i suppose in which case that would be good to know
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:39 pm

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Roden's prior position on the 3P is not very clear, he doesn't seem to have been favor of immediately voting him out but also expressed dubiousness of it.
In post 527, Roden wrote: Is there a con to voting DV Day 3 instead of today?
In post 564, Roden wrote: I think Leaf makes a good point

Tbh we have zero reason to believe DV is a benign 3P or that he's being 100% honest about his wincon
It's kinda fence-sitty and this attack on Theta is ridiculous even if he has since then come to have a much stronger PoV on the matter. If you don't want the 3P gone, then GO TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT IT GONE FFS

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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:39 pm

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In post 999, Roden wrote:
In post 996, Theta Alpine wrote: look at my day 1 posting

i wanted to keep the 3p alive to eat cult recruit shots potentially
but no a bunch of you just want deas dead instead so i offer a way to get deas out if they are what they claim without using one of our eliminations
There's barely been any Deas drama, people want Rat dead
In post 997, Thomith wrote: I thought you wanted 3P left alone yesterday Roden?
Are you not town?
I still do. Your "gotcha" attempts are bad.
But I want a gotcha moment so bad...
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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:40 pm

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In post 999, Roden wrote: There's barely been any Deas drama, people want Rat dead
deas cannot die this day phase
look at yesterday for the intense desire to kill deas from a lot of people
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:41 pm

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Although your points on keeping 3p in the game as a shield make sense.
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:42 pm

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In post 1001, Aureal wrote: Roden's prior position on the 3P is not very clear, he doesn't seem to have been favor of immediately voting him out but also expressed dubiousness of it.
In post 527, Roden wrote: Is there a con to voting DV Day 3 instead of today?
In post 564, Roden wrote: I think Leaf makes a good point

Tbh we have zero reason to believe DV is a benign 3P or that he's being 100% honest about his wincon
It's kinda fence-sitty and this attack on Theta is ridiculous even if he has since then come to have a much stronger PoV on the matter. If you don't want the 3P gone, then GO TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO WANT IT GONE FFS

Roden might have been converted last night, this is just bad all around
Sorry, didn't realize the 3p was up for elimination today
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:42 pm

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from my point of view

deas has enough people wanting to elim that he will be the elim once that is possible again
town using their elimination on deas prevents an elimination on cult that day
therefore i should prevent deas from being the elimination by any means necessary as long as it is not handing cult the win
including in this case allowing deas to win tonight
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:44 pm

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564 doesn't feel fence sitty tbh
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:45 pm

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In post 1006, Theta Alpine wrote: from my point of view

deas has enough people wanting to elim that he will be the elim once that is possible again
town using their elimination on deas prevents an elimination on cult that day
therefore i should prevent deas from being the elimination by any means necessary as long as it is not handing cult the win
including in this case allowing deas to win tonight
This doesn't feel like the godawful "only scum would think this" logic people are making it out to be imo.
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:45 pm

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I don't think people want Deas dead as much as people think. There were like three people max who were super loud about it and one of them got flipped and isn't here anymore. And by the time we get to Day 3 I think it'll be clear we have bigger fish to fry, since we'll have more info from night actions and the Day 2 flip.
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:46 pm

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if we can keep deas around as a shield then i am all for it
i do not currently see that happening with what i saw day 1
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:49 pm

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In post 993, Thomith wrote:
In post 992, Gamma Emerald wrote: I could vote Theta, her talk currently seems to be solely mech-based.
Is being solely mech based scummy?
Yes, both on a general level and I think fir her specifically. I remember her talking a lot about setup-related stuff in BTXVIi
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:52 pm

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guhhhh

how about this then

people who want to eliminate deas
run him up today
if you can get to e-1 or elim then i will target deas tonight and take them out of the game
otherwise i can use my ability elsewhere and deas is not up for elimination in future days unless they prove to not be benign
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:52 pm

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In post 1011, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 993, Thomith wrote:
In post 992, Gamma Emerald wrote: I could vote Theta, her talk currently seems to be solely mech-based.
Is being solely mech based scummy?
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it is something i do as both alignments
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:54 pm

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VOTE: theta
I don’t see how this running-up-Deas plan is meant to work, feel like it’d just waste the day phase?
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:56 pm

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In post 1011, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 993, Thomith wrote:
In post 992, Gamma Emerald wrote: I could vote Theta, her talk currently seems to be solely mech-based.
Is being solely mech based scummy?
Yes, both on a general level and I think fir her specifically. I remember her talking a lot about setup-related stuff in BTXVIi
The hell are you saying

Theta is always on the same page as me on mech, and thus she's been my top townread every time I've played with her

It's not scummy, it's super towny
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:56 pm

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then people can use hurt tags to indicate if they would eliminate deas tomorrow or heal tags to indicate if they would not and i can just manually keep track

guhhhhhh
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:58 pm

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In post 1015, Aureal wrote:
In post 1011, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 993, Thomith wrote:
In post 992, Gamma Emerald wrote: I could vote Theta, her talk currently seems to be solely mech-based.
Is being solely mech based scummy?
Yes, both on a general level and I think fir her specifically. I remember her talking a lot about setup-related stuff in BTXVIi
The hell are you saying

Theta is always on the same page as me on mech, and thus she's been my top townread every time I've played with her

It's not scummy, it's super towny
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:58 pm

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HEAL: DV
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:59 pm

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In post 1016, Theta Alpine wrote: then people can use hurt tags to indicate if they would eliminate deas tomorrow or heal tags to indicate if they would not and i can just manually keep track

guhhhhhh
okay
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:59 pm

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In post 1007, Thomith wrote: 564 doesn't feel fence sitty tbh
That was also before Theta confirmed that Deas was able to target her without knowing her real name

I think it makes sense for a 3p to be able to circumvent the real name mechanic
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:01 pm

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i mean deas described it as an ability to learn someones true name so that would have to work based on player names
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:02 pm

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UNVOTE:

I think the last few posts were townier

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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:03 pm

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In post 1021, Theta Alpine wrote: i mean deas described it as an ability to learn someones true name so that would have to work based on player names
Yeah, confirming it is what made me move away from any suspicion that Deas was scum pretending to be 3p
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:04 pm

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HEAL: Deas
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