Open 895 - 09:12 PM - Postgame

[ssbm_Kyouko]

bloop.mp3

[Alianna]

Black has requested replacement.

[Mizuki]

I do think gob is on the wrong path. So far gob has responded as I think town should - there's no concrete evidence he is being willingly ignorant here.

I do suspect him, and if he's scum then Elements certainly isn't his partner, which means his partner is off-wagon amongst you, D&D, Black, and Cook.

If gob is town, his theory is still less likely than Clap being killed because Clap was a PR, which makes the Elements lim a crapshoot without some additional evidence.

I think you're the most likely to be scum here and as long as gob is advocating for a lim within myself and Elements, he won't be voting you. If he is town, I still need to work with him despite his obstructed worldview, and the easiest way to do that I think is to show him where he's going wrong

I'm getting mixed signals, what is your actual read of gob here? If you're townreading him, than I think the way you spoke to him on the NK spec doesn't make sense. In those posts I quoted, you don't bring up my name once, or try to prove to him that I'm the likeliest scum candidate, you're mostly just focused on trying to prove him and myself wrong.

And for that matter, what's your actual read of Elements? I can't remember if you've stated this already, and your most recent posts give me the impression you're mostly just opposed it based on probability.

[Alianna]

Gamma Emerald has requested replacement. Doctor Drew will continue playing solo for the Doc and Drew slot.

[Doctor Drew]

Black has requested replacement.

Gamma Emerald has requested replacement. Doctor Drew will continue playing solo for the Doc and Drew slot.

This day keeps getting sadder and sadder

[Alianna]

Titus replaces Black.

[Doctor Drew]

Titus replaces Black.

And back to happy again

[Titus]

Good. Glad I could help.

[gob]

Titus replaces Black.

Downgrade of the CENTURY!!!!!!!

Welcome Titus.

We are currently prepping to lim Kyoko here

[Titus]

Go to timeout gob.

[Cook]

good news i am nearly well again. i suppose i have some rapid fire catchup to do

[Cook]

UNVOTE: just to reset before reread

[Elements]

good news i am nearly well again. i suppose i have some rapid fire catchup to do

When your done can you give a gth guess along with however else you're planning to give reads?

[Titus]

Cook glad you feel better

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I do think gob is on the wrong path. So far gob has responded as I think town should - there's no concrete evidence he is being willingly ignorant here.

I do suspect him, and if he's scum then Elements certainly isn't his partner, which means his partner is off-wagon amongst you, D&D, Black, and Cook.

If gob is town, his theory is still less likely than Clap being killed because Clap was a PR, which makes the Elements lim a crapshoot without some additional evidence.

I think you're the most likely to be scum here and as long as gob is advocating for a lim within myself and Elements, he won't be voting you. If he is town, I still need to work with him despite his obstructed worldview, and the easiest way to do that I think is to show him where he's going wrong

I'm getting mixed signals, what is your actual read of gob here? If you're townreading him, than I think the way you spoke to him on the NK spec doesn't make sense. In those posts I quoted, you don't bring up my name once, or try to prove to him that I'm the likeliest scum candidate, you're mostly just focused on trying to prove him and myself wrong.

And for that matter, what's your actual read of Elements? I can't remember if you've stated this already, and your most recent posts give me the impression you're mostly just opposed it based on probability.

Gob I think is town, but it's an early read based on his confidence early on D1. He's done some things here and there that, in most cases, are +town for him, such as fake hammering Cook. It doesn't really make sense for him to have done that as scum unless he's specifically scum with Cook. I don't see what doesn't make sense to you, he's pushing an unlikely angle that I think is wrong, and if I'm wrong on him and he is scum, his angle on the NK is not the one I want followed.

If he's so convinced there's one scum on and one scum off wagon he should be able to point in some way to the scum on wagon, to this point he said several of you all have scum equity so because of that he doesn't want to push there. That's an easy excuse for scum!gob and my play simultaneously keeps scum!gob from taking the easy path and allows town!gob to cooperate in one of his POEs

You quoted posts where I was arguing against gob's theory on the NK if I'm not mistaken so why are you surprised they aren't laced with reasoning you're scum? The problem with his analysis is not based on who is scum on the shaddowes wagon, the problem is that he's assumed a less likely scenario is at play, and the scenario he's pushing would be very convenient for scum!gob

Elements I lean scum on. I don't see an indication that they're out of their scumrange and I was able to read them on D1 last game. They're too different here from the last run of the setup. Idk if they're going to become more readable, but if they do and are town, I think I'll be able to tell.

[Elements]

Elements I lean scum on. I don't see an indication that they're out of their scumrange and I was able to read them on D1 last game. They're too different here from the last run of the setup. Idk if they're going to become more readable, but if they do and are town, I think I'll be able to tell.

Is there any more to your scumlean on me than this?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Yes, seems like neither you nor Mizuki remember - I stand by this assessment from 601, but am hesitant to lim you now given that if gob is scum it leads to losing after mislims of you and I. I'd rather find scum on the shaddowes wagon first and figure out the last scum from there.

Nm I see you answered. Elements felt weirdly antagonistic there. I feel like they only ever have the same question for anyone. Like all the questions feel like the same thing slightly reskinned. "Is that towny/scummy", or "do you really think that's towny/scummy".

I feel like there's a good chance Elements flips scum here. They almost seem like they're trying to be nullread.

VOTE: Elements

I'm fine with a Shaddowez elim as well, I'm not really enthused by the way his questioning of me just dropped like that. I would prefer Elements though.

[gob]

Its pretty impossible for ele and kyo to both not be mafia. Highly unlikely

[Titus]

Its pretty impossible for ele and kyo to both not be mafia. Highly unlikely

Why?

[Elements]

Its pretty impossible for ele and kyo to both not be mafia. Highly unlikely

Why?

Gobs theory of the kill being on wagon

[gob]

Its pretty impossible for ele and kyo to both not be mafia. Highly unlikely

Why?

both off wagon, plus on-wagon doesnt feel like 2 maf on to me. Plus Kyo and Ele were both the counter wagons, so there js that

[gob]

given how slow the pace got today i think im either totally right or totally wrong

i lean towards totally right cause at this point its pretty good odds

[Doctor Drew]

Gob has shown his work, I tend to think he is onto something RE: Elements/Kyo

[Alianna]

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[Alianna]

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