Open 892 | Nomination Mafia | Postgame

[Skygazer]

VOTE: black

[gob]

If im wrong here im gonna lose it

[Black]

Please fade gob tomorrow

[gob]

Please fade gob tomorrow

Cant tell if youre town who has given up or maf who has given up.

Either way I will listen to you on Roulette whatever you say. I sort of feel similar about Bella to you i think.

[Black]

Please fade gob tomorrow

Cant tell if youre town who has given up or maf who has given up.

Either way I will listen to you on Roulette whatever you say. I sort of feel similar about Bella to you i think.

I'm not giving up. I've made my case for scum!you

You said you would lay down and vote with whoever the others wanted to if you were wrong about me. You don't get the benefit of listening to me, you must listen to the others, and I'm trying to make sure they push you and not Roulette

[gob]

If its not you I’m not gonna let people lim me. But i will listen to people more than i usually do lol.

[Black]

If its not you I’m not gonna let people lim me. But i will listen to people more than i usually do lol.

This cannot make it to ELO

[gob]

If its not you I’m not gonna let people lim me. But i will listen to people more than i usually do lol.

This cannot make it to ELO

Why not? Seriously

[gob]

aim not trying to bury you here if anything the opposite.

You are dying but on the way out if youre town you could do more than this. It just makes me feel like youre scum giving up, frankly.

I apologize if you’re town, i really do.

[Black]

Because I think it's obvious you are scum here. The contradictions in 905 don't come from town

Pedit: What more do you want me to do? I'm pretty convinced it's you and I've given the alternatives if it's not. I think I've set town up to when even after I'm gone. You just want me to do more because you don't like that my conclusion ensures you're faded tomorrow

[gob]

Because I think it's obvious you are scum here. The contradictions in 905 don't come from town

Pedit: What more do you want me to do? I'm pretty convinced it's you and I've given the alternatives if it's not. I think I've set town up to when even after I'm gone. You just want me to do more because you don't like that my conclusion ensures you're faded tomorrow

Well yea basically. Cause i am town so if you are town and your conclusion is I get faded tomorrow, that is the losing play. So obviously I cannot accept that.

I do agree i contradicted myself. I was mainly trying to get everyone to agree on limming you today above all else, so I didnt really have a set future plan for the next days. However, i have settled upon Bella -> Skygazer if its not you here. I will go back and look more at Roulette if its not you too.

Realistically i would go Black -> Bella -> Sky/Roulette

If i am to die at some point, just because everyone thinks im scummy or something, then I would say lim Bella with the last lim after me.

[gob]

And the reason Bella > Sky/Roulette is that I find the wagon analysis line of reasoning to be better than the Skygazer paranoia kill.

[Skygazer]

UNVOTE:

[Skygazer]

lemme think

[Black]

I think BBmolla's scum partner is in you/Roulette/Sky in that order.

So this was just a lie or what?

[gob]

I think BBmolla's scum partner is in you/Roulette/Sky in that order.

So this was just a lie or what?

No but it’s like this

I find Bella to be towny tone wise. However I know that the wagon analysis line of reasoning is better than my own personal reads of people.

Sky i also find their tone towny, especially on Day 2 where they were pretty close to dying. But again I could be wrong and I know that it is in mafia’s best interest to hide 1-2 scum in the day 2 noms.

So i am trying to cover each situation

[Bellaphant]

The more you hedge on me the worse I feel. The wagon thing is still silly. It was silly day two and it's silly now.

[Bellaphant]

Day two Bella really wanted you dead.

[gob]

The more you hedge on me the worse I feel. The wagon thing is still silly. It was silly day two and it's silly now.

Okay and I get that if youre town. However the wagon analysis is not silly and was never silly.

You are arguing that both mafia were on the same wagon (not Kitty) Day 1. I find that unlikely given the wagon tied. Why would mafia put 2 people on wagon just to tie? Its much safer and easier to hedge between the two wagons.


So Bella, please understand what I am saying before you accuse me of doing something silly.

[Bellaphant]

I understand that, but it's one element. I know I'm town, so I need to know you are relying on something other than that one fact: if black is scum, yay, you got it right, but if she isn't, you are wrong and it just /is/ like that, however unlikely. I don't want to be in a situation tomorrow where it's not black, and you won't look at roulette (I don't really think it's sky). I'm just trying to avoid an elo from hell (although tbf if black is town, I'm not gonna say I won't be looking at your slot primarily for the last scum, because to me the 'roman empire/wagon analysis' is how bad you both handled molla

[Black]

UNVOTE:

lemme think

I don't really get this. I'm assuming you're unvoting because you're starting to think it could be gob? If that's the case then wouldn't it make sense to fade me here?

[RH]

Day 4 Count VI

Black (1) - gob
Roulette (1) - Black

Not Voting

- Skygazer, Bellaphant, Roulette

Notes

• My mod ISO is here.
  
• With 5 remaining, it takes 3 to form a majority.
  
• Reminder that elimination is compulsory.
  
• Mafia has nominated Black, Roulette, and Bellaphant.
  
• I have exams from 8 December to 13 December so Aisa will take over then.

The

Day

concludes in (expired on 2023-12-07 15:36:00).

[gob]

I understand that, but it's one element. I know I'm town, so I need to know you are relying on something other than that one fact: if black is scum, yay, you got it right, but if she isn't, you are wrong and it just /is/ like that, however unlikely. I don't want to be in a situation tomorrow where it's not black, and you won't look at roulette (I don't really think it's sky). I'm just trying to avoid an elo from hell (although tbf if black is town, I'm not gonna say I won't be looking at your slot primarily for the last scum, because to me the 'roman empire/wagon analysis' is how bad you both handled molla

I'm gonna look at Roulette regardless if Black is not mafia. I'm not really clearing anyone. But I want to make it clear that my current mind-set is Black -> Bella -> Skygazer wins the game 100%. I will look at Roulette again though, obviously. I am too paranoid to not do that.

FTR, I do think Roulette has scum-equity with BBmolla, depending on how you want to read BBmolla's read on Roulette throughout the game (SR Day 1 -> TR Day 2). But as of right now I think the ignoring of Black from BBmolla is way more pinging. Then there is how BBmolla interacted with you, giving you a strong TR day 1 based on meta. It's totally possible BBmolla snuck their mafia partner in a TR, but given that he quickly TR'd a lot of people (because he was informed) I view that as town. Then he nulled Skygazer, which pings me in theory but the way it was done in practice makes me feel differently. There is also the whole Day 2 stuff with Skygazer.

But if Black flips green, Sky will be the person I'm most paranoid about, because we could've gotten them Day 2. But I still think I can figure it out in that scenario.

I don't really think we are headed for an ELO from hell because we're going off some hard stuff. Like the Day 1 wagons. Those are locked in stone and if we can figure out how the mafia voted (together or not together) we can reverse engineer the team from that alone.

[gob]

I have one more thing I can look at from BBmolla actually.

[gob]

There are 2 ways I see mafia distance a lot.

1. Quick vote on partner (either in RVS or right out of RVS)
2. Ignore

I am going to look through everyone's ISO's and see who voted BBMolla, and if so, when.