Mind Screw Mafia 3 (OVER)

[dahill1]

Ok. I most certainly wat to see Tar as your target (obviously), and if that doesn't work, I want to see XSilentSinX, as he is the scummiest in my opinion right now. A win/win IMO.

i agree with this

[Tarhalindur]

Point of Order!

"Objects closer than they appear."

The Internet replaces pacman281292, who failed to pick up his role PM, much less confirm. I am looking into replacing DragonsofSummer (who did not pick up a PM reminding him that Day 2 had started) before day ends. - Tar

The Fourteenth Vote Count (aka the "King Of Groundhog Day" Vote Count)

2) Context (1) - Context
3) DrippingGoofball (1)
4) veerus (0)
5) malthusis (0)
6) Kairyuu (0)
7) ZazieR (0)
8) DragonsofSummer (0)
9) dahill1 (0) - Pesco47
10) TehVariable (1)
11) pacman281292 (0)
12) qwints (1) - Blakadder, Vi, Machiavellian-Mafia, Xylthixlm, StrangerCoug, dahill1, DrippingGoofball, qwints, TehVariable, veerus, ShadowGirl, Kairyuu, malthusis, Cephrir
15) Blakadder (16)
16) ShadowGirl (0)
17) The Central Scrutinizer (0)
18) XSilentSinX (0)
20) populartajo (0)
21) Pesco47 (0)
22) Stef (0)
23) Cephrir (0)
24) Xylthixlm (0)
25) StrangerCoug (0)
26) Electra (0)
27) Vi (0)
28) Machiavellian-Mafia (0)
Tarhalindur (0) - Electra

Not Voting (7): ZazieR, DragonsofSummer, pacman281292, The Central Scrutinizer, XSilentSinX, populartajo, Stef

Votes required to lynch:

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FoS Count:

2) Context (0)
3) DrippingGoofball (0)
4) veerus (0)
5) malthusis (0)
6) Kairyuu (0)
7) ZazieR (0)
8) DragonsofSummer (0)
9) dahill1 (0)
10) TehVariable (2) - dahill1, ShadowGirl
11) pacman281292 (0)
12) qwints (3) - Xylthixlm, Pesco47
15) Blakadder (2) - Kairyuu, Cephrir
16) ShadowGirl (0)
17) The Central Scrutinizer (0)
18) XSilentSinX (0)
20) populartajo (0)
21) Pesco47 (1) - TehVariable
22) Stef (0)
23) Cephrir (0)
24) Xylthixlm (1) - XSilentSinX
25) StrangerCoug (0)
26) Electra (0)
27) Vi (0)
28) Machiavellian-Mafia (0)

Not FoS'ing (18): Context, DrippingGoofball, veerus, malthusis, ZazieR, DragonsofSummer, pacman281292, qwints, Blakadder, The Central Scrutinizer, populartajo, Stef, StrangerCoug, Electra, Vi, Machiavellian-Mafia

Current Deadline:

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First Mod Deadline Review:

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Lynch count has been reached. BlakAdder is lynched.
It is now Twilight. Actions, please!

[ShadowGirl]

At least we know for sure that Pac and DoS aren't the mysterious Tar voice...

[dahill1]

At least we know for sure that Pac and DoS aren't the mysterious Tar voice...

nope it could still be DoS
Tar said he hadn't picked up his PM reminding him Day 2 had started and the person posting via Tar hasn't posted Day 2 yet, so it make sense actually.

[qwints]

Oh what new wonders will we learn!

[ShadowGirl]

At least we know for sure that Pac and DoS aren't the mysterious Tar voice...

nope it could still be DoS
Tar said he hadn't picked up his PM reminding him Day 2 had started and the person posting via Tar hasn't posted Day 2 yet, so it make sense actually.

Oh. Very true.

[Tarhalindur]

Update: hasdgfas replaces DragonsofSummer. - Tar

[BlakAdder]

I used my Ultimate on Tar. Go, town, go!

[Tarhalindur]

Ah well, I'm screwed unless for some reason you decide that you can afford to leave a Survivor alive.

<snip>

Finally, I'm more inclined to believe that Tar is

pretending

that someone is emulating him ala MS2 and there's no real emulation happening. His wording and intricate knowledge of the theme imply that it really can't be anyone else but Tar or a specifically chosen person (Natirasha comes to mind).

Smart person, that veerus. There's no post restriction, and no hidden player. There's just me, Tarhalindur, pulling the mod-actually-IS-a-player that I could only ever pull in this game. Since by my reckoning there's absolutely no way that a mod-player (who by definition has perfect knowledge) could be any alignment other than self-aligned (either survivor, jester, or SK) without being inherently broken...

Congratulations, folks, you found a neutral: Tarhalindur (yes, that's my role name as well as my user name), normal Survivor w/ 1-shot kill immunity and 1-shot rapidkill as Ultimate. Of course, it's not like you're going to believe me until BlakAdder's ability goes through. There's also no way you're not going to (rightfully) lynch the Survivor tomorrow. Oh well.

[Tarhalindur]

EBWOP: This is Tarhalindur's player-aspect. The mod-aspect continues to mod the game even if the player-aspect loses.

Oh, yeah, and I wasn't lying about my Ultimate condition.

[Tarhalindur]

I would appreciate it if every player with one or more active and/or factional (read: Mafia kill et. al.) abilities would send in TWO day choices today instead of one. This may or may not be game-relevant. - Tar (mod aspect)

[Context]

Context still worries me, especially with his last post where he basically says "I'm useless enough to hold this slot open".

That is neither what I said nor what I meant. At the time of that post a few people were intent on pushing a Tar lynch. In order for such a thing to be successful someone needed to essentially vote for me to open up said lynch.

I didn't really agree with the Tar lynch, but if anyone else made the vote, then I was leaving myself open.

I decided it was the best use of my vote to make that possibility not happen.

It has nothing to do with having a use or being useless. It just makes logical sense. If I didn't hold it open, who would? And why should anyone else do so? It WOULD be a useless spot for anyone else. It isn't for me to do so.

I'm not buying this, particularly the bolded. Do you really think 12 people would pile onto a bandwagon they think is going for Tarhalindur but is actually aimed for you?
Moreover, it seems like you're using it as a crutch so that you can skip doing anything (else) that's productive today.

Are you, you know, special? I'm not trying to be mean... but its very obvious and I'm being very open about what I'm doing. I mean... how can you not believe the bolded part? Especially after:(bolding added)

Bastard mod is trying to get me lynched!!!

This is not exactly unexpected, as it's a mechanic used before, but what I don't understand is why Tar's votes loop too. This means that Tar can't actually get any votes unless someone keeps their vote on him, which essentially means that it takes one more to lynch him than anyone else.

Well noticed.

Vote:Tar

Let's face it, I'm the best person to hold this vote open.

Anyone else and they can unvote and hammer me in the same vote if they get the chance and have some ulterior motive to do so.

Thus, to prevent that possibility I'm going to store my vote on Tar... which is essentially on myself, but it allows players to continue to vote Tar without endangering myself to this possibility.

It wouldn't require 12 people with the intent to lynch me to vote for Tar. It would take the one person who is keeping Tar open, at an opportune time, to unvote and then revote so that I get lynched instead of Tar.

One person.

One.

Single.

Uno.

I'm not putting it past some people to have their ultimate directly linked to how long Tar-player survives.

I'm the ONLY person in the game who is GUARANTEED not to betray myself. Thus it only makes logical sense for me to "hold the door" as is to say.

And about me not participating...

I didn't really have an opinion on the BlackAdder case. I suppose I could have thrown in token support, but I didn't really feel it was needed, especially after his claim. I've been here, I've listened and I've said things when I thought was necessary, more than quite a few players. If you're going to attack me for 'lurking', why don't you instead attack one of the, you know, lurkers.

[hasdgfas]

Hi guys.

Hascow's "I just replaced in so let's catch up" post. Pages 1-9

Posts 6/7 - f-light/tajo: These are good votes
Post 9 - tajo: why immediately think scum? Do you know something about it?
Post 20 - tajo: Why do you think scum first? It's Mind Screw, it could be anything.
Post 27 - Tar: HHGG reference
Posts 30/31 - Caboose/Electra: Good voting.
Post 32 - Variable: Why is being interested in the setup suspicious?
Post 38 - qwintz: hmm, interesting PR
Post 47 - Caboose: No, bad. In mind screw, always try to lynch the mod first.
Post 48 - SG: Good vote
Post 50 - veerus: Please explain why lynching tar is a bad thing
Post 51 - kairyuu: Good call
Post 60 - tajo: What?
Post 61 - Caboose: Why are you voting for qwintz just because he has a PR?
Post 73 - Caboose: I don't like this.
Post 74 - fl: Stop just observing mod comments and actually play the game.
Post 79 - fl: I don't like how you immediately assume it's a scum ability.
Post 81 - Caboose: But we won't know until we try, will we?
Post 86 - Caboose: Why make that kind of assumption so early?
Post 90 - Caboose: But we don't know that the person speaking through the mod is the mod.

FoS: Caboose

Post 99 - BA: Have you been reading the game? Is that all you have to say?
Post 107 - BA: Seriously? You're ridiculous
Post 108 - Caboose: Gut can be good.
Post 113 - Caboose: Voting based on an annoying PR is very anti-town
Post 119 - "Tar": I don't like the survivor-town claim as that's even harder than actually survivor.
Post 122 - Context: This is a completely useless post. Why?
Post 125 - BA: Is that it? Really?
Post 127 - Caboose: It may not be a "scumtell", but it's extremely anti-town. I don't like your FoS here either.
Post 131 - Context: What?
Post 134 - Context: Got anything game-related?
Post 136 - Caboose: WHY? WHY? WHY?
Post 140 - Context: Voting someone for getting a quote wrong? Really?
Post 146 - Empking: Actually, this is probably the best possible move.
Post 147 - SG: You are far too nice.
Post 149 - Vi: Claiming survivor early is actually the best thing to do.
Post 153 - DGB: Rolefishing. Bad.
Post 155 - Emp: Really?
Post 157 - Xyl: I thought you were a fan of early survivor claims?
Post 161 - tajo: he claimed survivor. he's either scum or survivor.
Post 167 - DGB: Why is him claiming his ultimate in the town's favor?
Post 169 - Empking: Understandable with survivor, actually.
Most of Page 8: Don't lynch him D1. That's a terrible idea.
Post 205 - Aries: Please try to use better grammar.
Post 209 - Aries: That's a terrible assumption.

Expect maybe 2 more of these today. Don't expect me to post a lot after they're done though. Any posts I make will hopefully be huge ones, though.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm the ONLY person in the game who is GUARANTEED not to betray myself. Thus it only makes logical sense for me to "hold the door" as is to say.

What are you saying???

I didn't really have an opinion on the BlackAdder case.

How could you not have an opinion? After he claimed, it was pretty clear cut I think.

[Xylthixlm]

Hi hasdgfas. Survivors get lynched on IRC when it's not lylo.

DGB, if someone needs to keep a vote on Tar to allow Tar to be lynched instead of Context, then Context is the only logical person to do it.

[Context]

I'm the ONLY person in the game who is GUARANTEED not to betray myself. Thus it only makes logical sense for me to "hold the door" as is to say.

What are you saying???

In order for anyone to vote for Tar, someone had to vote for me.

IF the person voting for me unvoted, all the people currently voting for Tar would vote me (because Tar's name would disappear from the vote count).

THUS, if Tar was at Lynch -1, and the person currently voting for me decided he did not want Tar lynched (for whatever reason), he could unvote me (Voting Tar), then revote me (by voting Machiavellian instead, who everyone who would be voting for Tar would be voting for.) But since no one is voting for Tar, all of the votes for Mach would instead vote for me.

Then I would be lynched, even though everyone but one person didn't intend to lynch me.

My response is, as long as I essentially vote myself, by voting Tar, it keeps his name on the list, and I cannot be lynched "on mistake".

I didn't really have an opinion on the BlackAdder case.

How could you not have an opinion? After he claimed, it was pretty clear cut I think.

I didn't really have an opinion on the BlackAdder case. I suppose I could have thrown in token support, but I didn't really feel it was needed, especially after his claim.

Did you read my post.

Its fairly obvious I answered this question too. I wasn't really having too much of a view on if Black were scum or not. I really didn't believe it he was scum, but I wasn't sure enough to make any case either way. He really didn't post anything to make a case for or against.

If I felt he was being pressured unfairly, I'd have said something, but I did think the pressure was fair because of his lack or participation and lack of any response to the pressure.

After he claimed, it no longer mattered what my opinion was. Even if his claim was true, he was the inevitable lynch. So, I didn't think about it anymore.

[veerus]

Honestly, I don't really understand your logic either, Context, but others did so I was ok with it until it became an issue. I have a feeling it won't be an issue tomorrow so I really don't care either.

[Tarhalindur]

Hint: I'm player 0. I'm ALWAYS player 0. The math should be self-evident.

[veerus]

Ok, so everyone's vote shifts down... except Context's? Wouldn't MM technically wrap around to you?

[Tarhalindur]

Hmm. Maybe Tar the moderator should fix that.

And yes, votes for MM *would* wrap around to me, wouldn't they?

[Context]

Hint: I'm player 0. I'm ALWAYS player 0. The math should be self-evident.

Hmm. Maybe Tar the moderator should fix that.

And yes, votes for MM *would* wrap around to me, wouldn't they?

*facepalm*

Yup, I'm supposed to understand rules in a game where we don't know them and the logical way to figure them out was mistakenly forgotten by the mod.

In light of this new information, it looks like I no longer need to worry about that and can unvote myself.

unvote

. lol

[TehVariable]

Apparently I missed a lot.

Congratulations, folks, you found a neutral: Tarhalindur (yes, that's my role name as well as my user name), normal Survivor w/ 1-shot kill immunity and 1-shot rapidkill as Ultimate. Of course, it's not like you're going to believe me until BlakAdder's ability goes through. There's also no way you're not going to (rightfully) lynch the Survivor tomorrow. Oh well.

Hahaha! As expected of Tar-san.

No wait...what? You mean lynching him would be the right move again? As awesome as this is, I am mildly disappointed.

In light of this new information, it looks like I no longer need to worry about that and can unvote myself. unvote. lol

day is over.

Anyway, I guess we'll be lynching Tar tomorrow, and I am overall happy with the BlakAdder lynch. I think he played his role well if his goal was to get lynched to use his ultimate.

[malthusis]

Mod, are those 3 votes on quints right?

Not exactly. (Mind Screw: it screws with my head as well as yours, and I know what's going on!) - Tar

[The Internet]

/confirming replacement for pacman. Give me a bit to read the thread.

[XSilentSinX]

I need a replacement because a really important family matter came up, I need to leave for 2 weeks.