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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:04 pm

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If the hood isn't pure at this point then the scum team hard misplayed, so I think Van/Dan are very likely town
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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:07 pm

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For me it's between Drew and Looker, both claims and usage are weird
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:12 pm

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Most of Day 1's I don't see relevant. I'm putting myself as Green, normally I would put as Blue, but yeah. Bite me. A lot of Day 2's relevant.

1.05
WhemeStar
(7):
Vanderscamp,
Elements
, Doctor Drew, ActionDan, Roden,
Gamma Emerald, Flavor Leaf

Vanderscamp (2):
WhemeStar, KittyTacky

KittyTacky
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Looker
Looker (1):
Naerys
Not Voting (2):
Yessiree
,
Celebloki



2.01
KittyTacky
(4):
Flavor Leaf,
Roden, Doctor Drew,
yessiree

Roden (1):
Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (7):
Vanderscamp,
Celebloki
,
Elements
,
KittyTacky
, Naerys, Looker, ActionDan



2.02
KittyTacky
5:
Flavor Leaf
, Roden, Doctor Drew,
yessiree, Elements

Roden (1):
Gamma Emerald

ActionDan (1):
KittyTacky

Not Voting (5):
Vanderscamp,
Celebloki
, Naerys, Looker, ActionDan



2.03
yessiree
4
Roden,
KittyTacky, Flavor Leaf
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Elements

Roden (3):
Doctor Drew, Looker, Vanderscamp
KittyTacky
(1):
yessiree

Doctor Drew (1):
Naerys
Not Voting (3):
Celebloki
, ActionDan,
Gamma Emerald



2.04
yessiree
Roden,
KittyTacky, Flavor Leaf,
Elements
,
Gamma Emerald

Roden (3):
Doctor Drew, Looker, Vanderscamp
KittyTacky
(1):
yessiree

Doctor Drew (1):
Naerys
Not Voting (3):
Celebloki
, ActionDan


There were two 2.04's

2.04
Naerys (4):
Gamma Emerald
,
yessiree
, Doctor Drew, Roden
yessiree
(2):
Flavor Leaf
,
Elements

Roden (2):
Looker, Vanderscamp
Doctor Drew (1):
Naerys
Not Voting (3):
Celebloki
, ActionDan,
KittyTacky


2.05
yessiree
5
Flavor Leaf
,
Elements
, Doctor Drew,
Gamma Emerald, KittyTacky

Naerys (2):
yessiree
, Roden
Roden (2):
Looker, Vanderscamp
Doctor Drew (1):
Naerys
Not Voting (2):
Celebloki
, ActionDan



2.06
yessiree
(7):
Flavor Leaf,
Elements
, Doctor Drew,
Gamma Emerald, Celebloki, KittyTacky,
Roden
Roden (2):
Looker, Vanderscamp
Naerys (1):
yessiree

Doctor Drew (1):
Naerys
Not Voting (1):
ActionDan



End of Day 3
Elements (6):
Flavor Leaf, KittyTacky,
ActionDan, Naerys, Roden,
Celebloki

Not Voting (5):
Vanderscamp,
Elements
, Looker,
Gamma Emerald
, Doctor Drew
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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:14 pm

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Drew checking Gamma feels like a really weird choice, and I'm not sure why he would target me N2 if he was already convinced that I was scum. And I feel like I made it really clear that I can make roles succeed on me throughout Day 2, so why would you target me with a role that gets results through action succeed/fail states?
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:16 pm

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In post 1173, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1169, Flavor Leaf wrote: Gamma could have been like a Delayed Kill from the night before?
What are you saying here?
Like a Poisoning-Tree Stump.

Like on Night 2 they targeted you with something.
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:23 pm

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Looker Bussed Naerys and Celeb with each other N1. He knew that Leaf claimed an inno result on Naerys and that it was actually Celeb who got checked, but then said nothing. The next night, even though the scum team should've believed that Naerys had been cleared, scum targeted the true target of the inno result and made him Frail instead. This means either they got extremely lucky, or they knew what Looker had done.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:24 pm

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Is there any benefit for Looker to true claim as scum?
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:24 pm

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Drew and Roden are very interesting VCA wise and claim wise. It fits a little too perfectly.

I can see both of their plays as legitimately helping the scum team too, like they both fit into the puzzle really well.

But there's still a decent chance it's T/T.

2 PR's is just so weird if Drew is scum, though, unless Inventor was supposed to do something against that, and we're mostly supposed to be Vanilla.

The

Roden: Doctor Drew, Looker, Vanderscamp vote count almost always has the scum in them imo. Im okay crossing off Naerys and Dan from the POE.
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:26 pm

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Bus drive could be a lie in order to put the clear on Celebloki instead of Naerys which could open up Naerys to an elim since they wanted to kill Celebloki it seems.
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:30 pm

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Roden, you're playing as well as you could've this game, and it sucks i had that soul read on yessiree, and unlucky i caught Elements, but I think I'm leaning you as scum here.

I think I just always would die if it was Looker and they had 3 kills, and I think I'm being kept alive because of that + one of the Drew/Roden slots.

Roden->Drew is probably a decent path today.
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:31 pm

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Agh, Idk.

It's one of Drew or Roden imo.

I really can't tell. They both did some anti partnery stuff with Yess/Elements, but like, they kind of had to.

They both did some super partnery stuff too.
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:32 pm

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Rolecop + Vanillaizer + Watcher

This is the only combination of scum roles that makes sense in a town!Looker world. I can't think of any other way that scum would know what Looker did.
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:32 pm

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Celebloki got Frail, and they were ended up going Yess, thought Roden over Drew, AND wasn't interested in Looker, Vander, or Naerys. I think they just had really good reads.

AND Celebloki had their theory on Elements. Really good by them. They were on the money, and I think that makes me lean Roden.
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:42 pm

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VOTE: Looker

It's not me. I think my PoE is too small for me to conceivably win if I were scum, and I wouldn't be efforting if I just saw two of my buddies get taken out in a row while having a red laser pointing at my head all game. I'd really rather vote out Looker and likely end the game today, and if it's not Looker then I'll just die without fighting back tomorrow.
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:49 pm

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I have to reread players I overlooked due to inactivity, but I'm not as sold on Roden as I was before.
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:54 pm

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That’s a good point.

We’re actually in trouble if it’s not in Drew/Looker/Roden.
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:05 pm

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Drew on Kitty, then avoiding Yessiree, and then joining Naerys the way it all happened looks really rough. He only joined on yessiree once yess basically slipped.
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:10 pm

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idk, im going back and forth. My best guess is it's 1 of the 3, but like i said, i can find things to town read all of them. Case for Drew is the best on a play level. Case for Roden is the best on a mech level. Roden did super defend Yessiree. Felt too much.

Naerys, Dan, Vanders are the remaining, there's possibilities for each. I dont think it's Dan or Vander. I think Neighborhood is pure now. Let me look at Kitty stuff.
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:15 pm

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Kitty posts

Spoiler:
In post 897, KittyTacky wrote: I still don't really get the Looker case.
In post 983, KittyTacky wrote: I don't think Looker is particularly scummy, but Yess death didn't really clear or even point against him so I wouldn't really oppose a lim there.
In post 986, KittyTacky wrote: I doubt BOTH scum jumped on my wagon at once, that would take colossal balls, doubt it's Roden.
In post 987, KittyTacky wrote: Even if Roden backed away it's still not good optics to naked vote twice in a row like that.
In post 1066, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 1016, Flavor Leaf wrote: And Yessiree calling out Drew’s voting on Yess as ‘throwing’ feels like scum mad at their partner.

And I can see why Drew felt the need to bus yesterday. It wasn’t without a few chances to try and move the wagon onto a Roden, onto a Naerys.

Naerys thought one of Roden or Drew was scum.
Celebloki also thought one of Roden or Drew was scum. Naerys was a wagon possibility, Celebloki was gifted frail.

Setups for when Roden flips town.

I also specifically had the feeling of someone moving off of Kitty after Kitty claimed VT was scum, and Drew is the one that was front and center in that.
Drew voted me literally just after Yess did.

I'm... wary of voting Drew because of that. Would scum really be so brazen?
Looks good for Roden and Looker.

I also think me being alive here is a good look for Looker considering it was likely for me to push there. I feel scum wanted me to.

And Gamma being Tree Stumped also makes me lean scum wanted Gamma's voice here. Because if not, why not Tree Stump Kitty and straight up kill Gamma.
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:34 pm

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I swear FL if you are scum i will flip on my head
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:39 pm

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I would be very confused if Leaf was scum
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:43 pm

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In post 1195, Roden wrote: I would be very confused if Leaf was scum
Unfortunately when FL is engaged in game like this, you can only hope he didnt roll scum.
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:51 pm

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Yessiree and Elements had no reason to die if I were scum here, though. I don't bus aimlessly. :lol: Would be a pretty hilarious game, though, if I were scum.
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:05 pm

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In post 1179, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1173, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1169, Flavor Leaf wrote: Gamma could have been like a Delayed Kill from the night before?
What are you saying here?
Like a Poisoning-Tree Stump.

Like on Night 2 they targeted you with something.
But like, that would mean the inventor is factional because allowing that as a factional ability defeated the design philosophy of the alignment imo
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:10 pm

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In post 1193, Flavor Leaf wrote: Kitty posts

Spoiler:
In post 897, KittyTacky wrote: I still don't really get the Looker case.
In post 983, KittyTacky wrote: I don't think Looker is particularly scummy, but Yess death didn't really clear or even point against him so I wouldn't really oppose a lim there.
In post 986, KittyTacky wrote: I doubt BOTH scum jumped on my wagon at once, that would take colossal balls, doubt it's Roden.
In post 987, KittyTacky wrote: Even if Roden backed away it's still not good optics to naked vote twice in a row like that.
In post 1066, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 1016, Flavor Leaf wrote: And Yessiree calling out Drew’s voting on Yess as ‘throwing’ feels like scum mad at their partner.

And I can see why Drew felt the need to bus yesterday. It wasn’t without a few chances to try and move the wagon onto a Roden, onto a Naerys.

Naerys thought one of Roden or Drew was scum.
Celebloki also thought one of Roden or Drew was scum. Naerys was a wagon possibility, Celebloki was gifted frail.

Setups for when Roden flips town.

I also specifically had the feeling of someone moving off of Kitty after Kitty claimed VT was scum, and Drew is the one that was front and center in that.
Drew voted me literally just after Yess did.

I'm... wary of voting Drew because of that. Would scum really be so brazen?
Looks good for Roden and Looker.

I also think me being alive here is a good look for Looker considering it was likely for me to push there. I feel scum wanted me to.

And Gamma being Tree Stumped also makes me lean scum wanted Gamma's voice here. Because if not, why not Tree Stump Kitty and straight up kill Gamma.
I think if scum wanted to let me advocate for them they made a mistake. I reconsidered my Roden scumread N2, I can absolutely turn my train of thought around at a moment’s notice. I am like, infamously hard to truly pocket.
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