A Procrastinating role does not function if there are more than one non-town players alive
. This is usually intended for games with known faction sizes. In a game with unknown faction sizes, a Procrastinating player may attempt to act, but their action will fail if more than one non-town players were alive at the start of that phase. (The player still gets a no result PM if they attempted to use an investigative action, as usual for failing investigative actions.)'
"does not function" =/= "cannot act"
Wording matters.
Exactly,they can't even attempt to use their role unless it is an unknown number of scum.
Basically, their role is disabled.....ie, they couldn't have used their role they claimed last night.
It literally specifies that one can only attempt to use it if it is an unknown how many scum there are.
(The player still gets a no result PM if they attempted to use an
investigative
action, as usual for failing
investigative
actions.)
This is a serious question not meant to be insulting in any way.
But is English your first language?
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In post 791, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Btw I highly expect the kill being stopped last night was a result of a blocker targeting Yess, so whoever did that should target Roden tonight.
???
If you think I'm scum then how does this prevent the kill? There's more than two scum in the game and you just told the scum team that they're safe to do the kill.
There was in implication for Flavor to target elsewhere + a belief the Yessiree flips scum here meaning only 2 scum remain. I opted to make the implicit statement explicit for clarity.
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In post 791, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Btw I highly expect the kill being stopped last night was a result of a blocker targeting Yess, so whoever did that should target Roden tonight.
???
If you think I'm scum then how does this prevent the kill? There's more than two scum in the game and you just told the scum team that they're safe to do the kill.
There was in implication for Flavor to target elsewhere + a belief the Yessiree flips scum here meaning only 2 scum remain. I opted to make the implicit statement explicit for clarity.
The fact I haven't hammered this even though I originally wanted Yess dead like three days ago and kick started the wagon should be proof we're not scum partners
idk, on planet Earth where we have claimed cop, tracker, and an invention that can all confirm my role???
i think my role will be very relevant later on, and it's not an overreaction at all to think yall are throwing here, especially Drew like i expected him of all people to understand that
The goal is to paralyze your scumteam as much as possible. Let’s say you, Yess, and a third that isn’t Flavor Leaf are scum. Yessiree gets eliminated today, and his scumflip deeply implicates you. Blocking you ensures that in order to get a kill, your team needs to send that unknown third to do it. Flavor Leaf can then hopefully get a clear on a player. After that, you get voted out and Flavor and the blocker can target separate players until one of them dies.
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yeah i think it's hilarious people think Roden and me are scum together
they must think it's some big brain play for Elements and Roden to orchestrate their claims and for Roden and I to obvscum it up when we were the only leading wagons?
In post 808, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The goal is to paralyze your scumteam as much as possible. Let’s say you, Yess, and a third that isn’t Flavor Leaf are scum. Yessiree gets eliminated today, and his scumflip deeply implicates you. Blocking you ensures that in order to get a kill, your team needs to send that unknown third to do it. Flavor Leaf can then hopefully get a clear on a player. After that, you get voted out and Flavor and the blocker can target separate players until one of them dies.
You're making too many assumptions for this to be a real thought process
In post 808, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The goal is to paralyze your scumteam as much as possible. Let’s say you, Yess, and a third that isn’t Flavor Leaf are scum. Yessiree gets eliminated today, and his scumflip deeply implicates you. Blocking you ensures that in order to get a kill, your team needs to send that unknown third to do it. Flavor Leaf can then hopefully get a clear on a player. After that, you get voted out and Flavor and the blocker can target separate players until one of them dies.
You're making too many assumptions for this to be a real thought process
That is what I like to call “optimism”
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“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
Bruh what? We’re on the same side? Procrastinating roles being able to act freely like yess claims he did only would be the case in a game where faction size isn’t known. The mutated role also adds a wrinkle of not needing to worry about knowing or not knowing the scumteam size. So I see absolutely zero reason why yess should’ve been given a “no result” vs. just not getting any form of result PM.
The wiki doesn't say that.
You need glasses, sir. Because while it doesn’t explicitly say that, it in essence says that. The entire reason Procrastinating can act at all times in some games is that in those games the scumteam size isn’t known. It’s known here, so that caveat is unnecessary.
In post 808, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The goal is to paralyze your scumteam as much as possible. Let’s say you, Yess, and a third that isn’t Flavor Leaf are scum. Yessiree gets eliminated today, and his scumflip deeply implicates you. Blocking you ensures that in order to get a kill, your team needs to send that unknown third to do it. Flavor Leaf can then hopefully get a clear on a player. After that, you get voted out and Flavor and the blocker can target separate players until one of them dies.
You're making too many assumptions for this to be a real thought process
That is what I like to call “optimism”
you think town has a cop, a tracker, a role cop, a roleblocker, and multiple inventors?
It specifically says they cannot use the role if it is known how many scum their are, and they are all alive. Basically as if they don't have the role yet.
Full stop.
They can only try to use it if it is unknown how many scum the game starts with......only in this case would they get a no result pm.
So.....keep trying to defend it I guess?
Pre Edit: Gamma literally is town lol
'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
'doctor drew our hero' - Shiki
'I love playing with him, he's got an amazing presence to him that just feels like the game is lacking something when he's not there' - JacksonVirgo
It specifically says they cannot use the role if it is known how many scum their are, and they are all alive. Basically as if they don't have the role yet.
Full stop.
They can only try to use it if it is unknown how many scum the game starts with......only in this case would they get a no result pm.
In post 821, Roden wrote:
The wiki explicitly says investigative actions can still act but will receive no result
You're saying that can't happen
That is not the part I’m taking issue with AT ALL. You need to re-analyze the conditionals on that wiki page! Because it says the role should only be able to attempt to act any time at night in a game with unknown scumteam size, and ONLY THEN would the investigation role get a No Result! So since Yess should not have been allowed to act, there should not be a result PM that says No Result or otherwise!
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“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
When i open this game, and starting read, i immediatly close it because i starting strongly consider self last townie alive and others are just jesters.
