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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:53 pm

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In post 770, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 766, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 762, Roden wrote:
In post 756, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 747, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 743, Gamma Emerald wrote: You shouldn’t have been allowed to act at all
No that isn't how it works.
Bruh what? We’re on the same side? Procrastinating roles being able to act freely like yess claims he did only would be the case in a game where faction size isn’t known. The mutated role also adds a wrinkle of not needing to worry about knowing or not knowing the scumteam size. So I see absolutely zero reason why yess should’ve been given a “no result” vs. just not getting any form of result PM.
The wiki doesn't say that.
You need glasses, sir. Because while it doesn’t explicitly say that, it in essence says that. The entire reason Procrastinating can act at all times in some games is that in those games the scumteam size isn’t known. It’s known here, so that caveat is unnecessary.
Gamma, it literally says if they try to act they would get a no result PM
IN A GAME WITH UNKNOWN SCUMTEAM SIZE!
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:54 pm

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Serious question, has anyone ever seen any town accuse a pusher of throwing?
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:54 pm

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VC 2.05
fixed

two votecounts in about as many hours let's go
don't crash the site while i'm gone kthx


yessiree (5,
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Flavor Leaf, Elements, Doctor Drew, Gamma Emerald, KittyTacky
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yessiree, Roden
Roden (2):
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Doctor Drew (1):
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With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate someone.
There are (expired on 2023-11-24 13:03:03) left in the deadline.
As always, if my votecounts are off, let me know. I will fix them!


Elements and Looker will be V/LA Tuesday, November 21st to Thursday, November 23rd. (That's almost expired by now!)
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:56 pm

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In post 766, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 762, Roden wrote:
In post 756, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 747, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 743, Gamma Emerald wrote: You shouldn’t have been allowed to act at all
No that isn't how it works.
Bruh what? We’re on the same side? Procrastinating roles being able to act freely like yess claims he did only would be the case in a game where faction size isn’t known. The mutated role also adds a wrinkle of not needing to worry about knowing or not knowing the scumteam size. So I see absolutely zero reason why yess should’ve been given a “no result” vs. just not getting any form of result PM.
The wiki doesn't say that.
You need glasses, sir. Because while it doesn’t explicitly say that, it in essence says that. The entire reason Procrastinating can act at all times in some games is that in those games the scumteam size isn’t known. It’s known here, so that caveat is unnecessary.
Fuck off with that "in essence" nonsense. The role is explicitly explained in the wiki. You're wrong and no one should ever entertain a personal interpretation of the wiki as an actual argument.
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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:56 pm

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In post 772, Naerys wrote:
In post 760, Roden wrote:
In post 757, Naerys wrote: I am town you scumbag Roden
You are clearly abusing the fact i said that i was asleep when wheme wagon happened. So ofc you picked similiar time to try to get me mislimmed
You've been asleep for seven days?
You should already know that i rarely push people, lol. I am not good at that, i prefer posting my observations and discussing them. I disagreed with the Kitty wagon so i remained on Drew.
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:57 pm

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In post 731, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 727, yessiree wrote: why i know there are 3 scums?

because it's in the setup you absolute doofs
I don't see anywhere in the OP or the game announcement about how many scum there are......in fact, specifically said it was a closed setup.
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The Setup


Closed! You'll learn all about it as the game unfolds.

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    . Consequently, there are 10 townies. No alignment changes are possible.
  2. At least one player is a Vanilla Townie.
  3. Inherent multitasking and daytalk.
  4. There are no additional mechanics to this game and Role PMs are correct. You were assigned the role that you were PM'd.
  5. There are no hidden reliabilities. Any and all investigatives will return correct results.
  6. Generally speaking I'm following NAR if there are disputes. There shouldn't be, but just in case.
  7. This game is not Normal.
My lawyer has advised me not to comment further on the setup than this. Have fun!
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:57 pm

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Spoiler: me @ this game
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:57 pm

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In post 774, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 738, Gamma Emerald wrote:
…This is usually intended for games with known faction sizes. In a game with unknown faction sizes, a Procrastinating player may attempt to act, but their action will fail if more than one non-town players were alive at the start of that phase.
I call hogus-bogus.
Think, Roden, think! The wiki literally says Procrastinating may “attempt to act” in games where scumteam size is unknown, which is how the no result would occur, since it would have been a failed action attempt. In a game with a known scumteam size, the intended usage necessitates the Procrastinating role not be able to attempt an action until its condition is met.
Quote where it says it can't act.
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:58 pm

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In post 775, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 770, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 766, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 762, Roden wrote:
In post 756, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 747, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 743, Gamma Emerald wrote: You shouldn’t have been allowed to act at all
No that isn't how it works.
Bruh what? We’re on the same side? Procrastinating roles being able to act freely like yess claims he did only would be the case in a game where faction size isn’t known. The mutated role also adds a wrinkle of not needing to worry about knowing or not knowing the scumteam size. So I see absolutely zero reason why yess should’ve been given a “no result” vs. just not getting any form of result PM.
The wiki doesn't say that.
You need glasses, sir. Because while it doesn’t explicitly say that, it in essence says that. The entire reason Procrastinating can act at all times in some games is that in those games the scumteam size isn’t known. It’s known here, so that caveat is unnecessary.
Gamma, it literally says if they try to act they would get a no result PM
IN A GAME WITH UNKNOWN SCUMTEAM SIZE!
Hmmm, didn't read it as such, but reading it again I understand I misread it before.

Roden, according to the wiki Procrastination can't work with a know scum size, like Yess couldn't even use his role last Night.
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:58 pm

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In post 776, KittyTacky wrote: Serious question, has anyone ever seen any town accuse a pusher of throwing?
Remember Nancy?
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 6:59 pm

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In post 783, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 775, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 770, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 766, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 762, Roden wrote:
In post 756, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 747, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 743, Gamma Emerald wrote: You shouldn’t have been allowed to act at all
No that isn't how it works.
Bruh what? We’re on the same side? Procrastinating roles being able to act freely like yess claims he did only would be the case in a game where faction size isn’t known. The mutated role also adds a wrinkle of not needing to worry about knowing or not knowing the scumteam size. So I see absolutely zero reason why yess should’ve been given a “no result” vs. just not getting any form of result PM.
The wiki doesn't say that.
You need glasses, sir. Because while it doesn’t explicitly say that, it in essence says that. The entire reason Procrastinating can act at all times in some games is that in those games the scumteam size isn’t known. It’s known here, so that caveat is unnecessary.
Gamma, it literally says if they try to act they would get a no result PM
IN A GAME WITH UNKNOWN SCUMTEAM SIZE!
Hmmm, didn't read it as such, but reading it again I understand I misread it before.

Roden, according to the wiki Procrastination can't work with a know scum size, like Yess couldn't even use his role last Night.
It doesn't say that.
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:00 pm

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Whatever. See signature, we just insta-merc Roden when Yess flips scum.
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:00 pm

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In post 784, Roden wrote:
In post 776, KittyTacky wrote: Serious question, has anyone ever seen any town accuse a pusher of throwing?
Remember Nancy?
I... okay I may have forgot about that incident. But iirc it was in different circumstances.
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:01 pm

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I still think it doesn't look good. Not a good kind of AtE.
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:01 pm

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(The player still gets a no result PM if they attempted to use an
investigative
action, as usual for failing
investigative
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:02 pm

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Taken from the wiki:

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A Procrastinating role does not function if there are more than one non-town players alive
. This is usually intended for games with known faction sizes. In a game with unknown faction sizes, a Procrastinating player may attempt to act, but their action will fail if more than one non-town players were alive at the start of that phase. (The player still gets a no result PM if they attempted to use an investigative action, as usual for failing investigative actions.)'
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:02 pm

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Btw I highly expect the kill being stopped last night was a result of a blocker targeting Yess, so whoever did that should target Roden tonight.
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:03 pm

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VOTE: yessiree

Yeah, I’m going here.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:04 pm

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Flavor should target elsewhere so we get a clear via his role
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:04 pm

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In post 790, Doctor Drew wrote: Taken from the wiki:

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A Procrastinating role does not function if there are more than one non-town players alive
. This is usually intended for games with known faction sizes. In a game with unknown faction sizes, a Procrastinating player may attempt to act, but their action will fail if more than one non-town players were alive at the start of that phase. (The player still gets a no result PM if they attempted to use an investigative action, as usual for failing investigative actions.)'
"does not function" =/= "cannot act"

Wording matters.
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:06 pm

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In post 794, Roden wrote:
In post 790, Doctor Drew wrote: Taken from the wiki:

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A Procrastinating role does not function if there are more than one non-town players alive
. This is usually intended for games with known faction sizes. In a game with unknown faction sizes, a Procrastinating player may attempt to act, but their action will fail if more than one non-town players were alive at the start of that phase. (The player still gets a no result PM if they attempted to use an investigative action, as usual for failing investigative actions.)'
"does not function" =/= "cannot act"

Wording matters.
Exactly,they can't even attempt to use their role unless it is an unknown number of scum.

Basically, their role is disabled.....ie, they couldn't have used their role they claimed last night.
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:08 pm

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In post 795, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 794, Roden wrote:
In post 790, Doctor Drew wrote: Taken from the wiki:

'
A Procrastinating role does not function if there are more than one non-town players alive
. This is usually intended for games with known faction sizes. In a game with unknown faction sizes, a Procrastinating player may attempt to act, but their action will fail if more than one non-town players were alive at the start of that phase. (The player still gets a no result PM if they attempted to use an investigative action, as usual for failing investigative actions.)'
"does not function" =/= "cannot act"

Wording matters.
Exactly,they can't even attempt to use their role unless it is an unknown number of scum.

Basically, their role is disabled.....ie, they couldn't have used their role they claimed last night.
It literally specifies that one can only attempt to use it if it is an unknown how many scum there are.
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:08 pm

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In post 791, Gamma Emerald wrote: Btw I highly expect the kill being stopped last night was a result of a blocker targeting Yess, so whoever did that should target Roden tonight.
???

If you think I'm scum then how does this prevent the kill? There's more than two scum in the game and you just told the scum team that they're safe to do the kill.
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:09 pm

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In post 796, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 795, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 794, Roden wrote:
In post 790, Doctor Drew wrote: Taken from the wiki:

'
A Procrastinating role does not function if there are more than one non-town players alive
. This is usually intended for games with known faction sizes. In a game with unknown faction sizes, a Procrastinating player may attempt to act, but their action will fail if more than one non-town players were alive at the start of that phase. (The player still gets a no result PM if they attempted to use an investigative action, as usual for failing investigative actions.)'
"does not function" =/= "cannot act"

Wording matters.
Exactly,they can't even attempt to use their role unless it is an unknown number of scum.

Basically, their role is disabled.....ie, they couldn't have used their role they claimed last night.
It literally specifies that one can only attempt to use it if it is an unknown how many scum there are.
In post 789, Roden wrote:
(The player still gets a no result PM if they attempted to use an
investigative
action, as usual for failing
investigative
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:10 pm

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How the fuck am I the only one who understand the mech here

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