Mini Theme 2318: Cook's Kitchen Sink [Game Over]

[yessiree]

why didn't you push me harder then?

why should I be forced to claim when I was in no danger of being limmed and the wagon on me never had any leg to stand on to begin with

[Flavor Leaf]

Roden (2): Looker, Vanderscamp

one of these are scum maybe 2 (including Roden here). this is never a 3 person team.

[Doctor Drew]

Hmm, I’ll probably be asleep at deadline. I’m in the same boat that the claim is sort of a weird claim for scum to make, so I’m inclined to believe it came from town.

I feel like it's just a genuine claim as scum.

Role Cop + Neighbor is generally a scum combo. I had Rolecop Neighbor in my last scum game even.

I am starting to see the scum equity in the claim no though, I am with you on that.

[Flavor Leaf]

why didn't you push me harder then?

why should I be forced to claim when I was in no danger of being limmed and the wagon on me never had any leg to stand on to begin with

wasn't interested in pushing you harder. i got more from letting it stew and seeing who made the next move, and onto where.

[yessiree]

considering Elements is a stronger town read of mine, and I got a sNaerys didn’t move result, Naerys wagon isn’t looking too good.

i don't get how either of these reasons lead you to that conclusion

[Doctor Drew]

VOTE: yess

[Flavor Leaf]

Yessiree's energy towards me just screams scum mad im pushing them for nonexistent reasons rather than town annoyed i'm pushing them.

I also have started to move past a 'let it resolve' mentality, because it's too easy for scum to coast on it like Marci did in Mafia have a cop. Y'all were gonna let Marci go on that Day 2 as well if I didn't push.

Looking back, I had a really good game that game bar fading Gamma, but only went Gamma there cuz Marci wasn't happening. We had a Marci/Dann S/S counter that game, and the reason my Marci on Dann vote didnt make sense is because Dann was traitor and marci didn't know.

It's possible this is a Yessiree/Roden team.

[Flavor Leaf]

Here's my thing: roden wasn't the first on the wagon, but Roden helped setup the energy that way that lead Gamma to vote there. I don't want to risk misfading Roden today, though, so I'd rather that just sit because I think Roden can town up if they are town (or pocket me).

[Celebloki]

Roden (2): Looker, Vanderscamp

one of these are scum maybe 2 (including Roden here). this is never a 3 person team.

I tend to agree with Naerys that there is scum between Roden and Drew. I’m leaning more town on Vander I think. I don’t have much of an opinion on Looker. I’ve honestly ignored his slot up til now. Or at least haven’t given it attention. I need to re-read the game and come up with a new base, but I probably can’t do that before deadline.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Vanderscamp
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Celebloki
VOTE: Elements
VOTE: KittyTacky
VOTE: Naerys
VOTE: Random Nurse
VOTE: Whemestar
VOTE: Doctor Drew
VOTE: Roden
VOTE: looker
VOTE: ActionDan
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

By voting everyone before they vote me, I am immune to any and all accusations of OMGUS!

This is the only time I’ve voted Kitty this game. You better print that retraction right now, Flavor Leaf.

[Flavor Leaf]

It felt like scum was trying to threat kill Naerys at end of the day. I'm leaning Roden over Drew in that scenario right now.

Looker I have like a scum soul read on them, but there's not really enough to go on here yet. Like that's actually my strongest scum read, but it's almost purely gut, but i feel like my gut is just a mix of feeling the weight and momentum of the gamestate on a social level, so it's not really gut, but i dont have any other way to explain it, if that makes sense.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Vanderscamp
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
VOTE: Celebloki
VOTE: Elements
VOTE: KittyTacky
VOTE: Naerys
VOTE: Random Nurse
VOTE: Whemestar
VOTE: Doctor Drew
VOTE: Roden
VOTE: looker
VOTE: ActionDan
VOTE: Flavor Leaf

By voting everyone before they vote me, I am immune to any and all accusations of OMGUS!

This is the only time I’ve voted Kitty this game. You better print that retraction right now, Flavor Leaf.

oh yeah, you were against it.

I'm less concerned about you than the other 3 anyways, and i feel like that's evident in my posts.

[yessiree]

VOTE: yess

actually throwing here if you think this is the play

[yessiree]

why didn't you push me harder then?

why should I be forced to claim when I was in no danger of being limmed and the wagon on me never had any leg to stand on to begin with

wasn't interested in pushing you harder. i got more from letting it stew and seeing who made the next move, and onto where.

so you were complacent in letting it stew rather than pushing for clarity

[Flavor Leaf]

it's not throwing even if you ended up being town. that's overdramatic.

that's just conditional responsing Drew. you're shading when they dont go the way you want, praising when they're on your side.

can you explain your read on Naerys?

[Roden]

Naerys wagon is Kitty and Yessiree wagon minus Myself and Elements (and Yesiree on the Yes wagon specifically)

considering Elements is a stronger town read of mine, and I got a sNaerys didn’t move result, Naerys wagon isn’t looking too good.

Any reason Naerys can't be a Ninja?

[Roden]

Also, why did Yessiree wait until near deadline to make the claim, it was pretty stagnated, they could have done it earlier.

And it feels like scum don't want Yessiree based on overall energy being pushed at their claim.

Idk.

I'm decently confident Yessiree is scum here, and I'm more confident Naerys is town here right now.

It seems like your confidence is based on mechanical reasons and not on play. What has Naerys done to convince you that she's town?

[Gamma Emerald]

aight
UNVOTE:
I dunno where I want to vote but I’ll give some runway on Naerys for Flavor’s sake

[Flavor Leaf]

why didn't you push me harder then?

why should I be forced to claim when I was in no danger of being limmed and the wagon on me never had any leg to stand on to begin with

wasn't interested in pushing you harder. i got more from letting it stew and seeing who made the next move, and onto where.

so you were complacent in letting it stew rather than pushing for clarity

why do you want me to push you harder? you'd have gotten faded.

rarely am i ever in a spot where deadline is here, and im not ready to end day fully, but here we are.

this game will benefit moving to the next day.

Another reason I don't like the claim, is Yessiree doesnt have to give results until a scum goes down, and with a wagon dying on Yess, if Yess is scum, it's not really likely to hit another scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m trying to think whether the interaction of neighbors + RC makes yess more town/scum at all

[yessiree]

how is it not throwing when you're limming a claimed role cop when i could get cop cleared instead

yall legitimately game throwing here if you think limming me today is a good idea, i think my role is gonna play a key role later when there are vanillarizer and inventors at play this game

naerys is just gut + off wagon scum

[Gamma Emerald]

I will only say this once: if you’re lying about a vanillaizer existing Elements, it’s better to say so now so we don’t get mislead by incorrect info.

[Flavor Leaf]

Also, why did Yessiree wait until near deadline to make the claim, it was pretty stagnated, they could have done it earlier.

And it feels like scum don't want Yessiree based on overall energy being pushed at their claim.

Idk.

I'm decently confident Yessiree is scum here, and I'm more confident Naerys is town here right now.

It seems like your confidence is based on mechanical reasons and not on play. What has Naerys done to convince you that she's town?

it's the combination of the way they shade me, not sheeping me, not thinking im scum, and the low energy defense of why im different than scumFL in a non pocketing way. Plus, the way they presented some of their reads, like you or Drew having scum in them, which I believe I also said earlier, being sort of a mind meld in addition to the movement to their wagon this late.

[Flavor Leaf]

how is it not throwing when you're limming a claimed role cop when i could get cop cleared instead

yall legitimately game throwing here if you think limming me today is a good idea, i think my role is gonna play a key role later when there are vanillarizer and inventors at play this game

naerys is just gut + off wagon scum

Why do you think there's a Cop with a Role Cop as town + Vanillaized claim.

[yessiree]

why didn't you push me harder then?

why should I be forced to claim when I was in no danger of being limmed and the wagon on me never had any leg to stand on to begin with

wasn't interested in pushing you harder. i got more from letting it stew and seeing who made the next move, and onto where.

so you were complacent in letting it stew rather than pushing for clarity

why do you want me to push you harder? you'd have gotten faded.

rarely am i ever in a spot where deadline is here, and im not ready to end day fully, but here we are.

this game will benefit moving to the next day.

Another reason I don't like the claim, is Yessiree doesnt have to give results until a scum goes down, and with a wagon dying on Yess, if Yess is scum, it's not really likely to hit another scum.

i don't think that's the case, you just didn't have any stock to push me with

if you pursued further maybe you've gotten the claim outta me sooner and we all collectively move on to better things

i copped kitty last night btw because i've never seen him tryhard that much, so i thought he got an excited on getting a cool scum role, i got a no result obviously