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I like thisIn post 546, KittyTacky wrote: Ele claim feels real. Too much of a wild conspiracy theory otherwise.<Embrace The Void>
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Vanderscamp Mafia Scum
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Luckily that isn't my argument!In post 496, Roden wrote:
Your point is bad if your argument is "you're scum because you're scum"In post 493, Vanderscamp wrote:
Because from your scum pov you would know it's realIn post 446, Roden wrote:
If the AtE is that bad and ineffective then why do you think I jump off the wagon as scumIn post 444, Vanderscamp wrote:When you made post #332 I did not agree with you that anything Kitty said was town-indicative.
What Kitty said wasn't overly scummy or anything but it was probably one of the least town-indicative ATEs I've ever seen and I think you got a Kitty town read too easily.
That seems kind of incongruent
That's my point
My argument is that I think your read is fake.
Scum have an easier time reading things as genuine if they have a pov of knowing that it is genuine beforehand.
But I think you know this and are just trying to discredit my argument, maybe other people can weigh in on whether my phrasing was unclear enough that anyone thought "you're scum because you're scum" is what I was saying.-
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Vanderscamp Mafia Scum
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I like my vote on him more after his response to me.In post 534, Doctor Drew wrote:
I still am voting Roden, but not loving my vote too much anymore.In post 533, yessiree wrote:
i think im townleaning Roden. i take it you too?In post 532, Doctor Drew wrote:
I don't agree with him about you, but I believe he is town.In post 531, yessiree wrote: Y'all just gonna follow FL off of a cliff
His read on you is part of why I think scum is ok with him pushing you though, or more specifically scum are really pushing Flavor as town.
would be nice to see an updated VC but i think we're the only leading wagons atm
so yeah i agree scum is content with the gamestate, which also explains why i feel like it's been stagnating
And ya, would love a VC-
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Vanderscamp Mafia Scum
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Like I have a read that Roden is scum for reading kitty's ATE as town too easily.
The gist of this read should have been super clear, even if it's wrong. I definitely think the read could be wrong! But I feel like Roden is trying way too hard to paint this as some kind of ridiculous stance on my part.-
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Your stance seems to be that that I as scum wouldn't be able to tell if town!Kitty's AtE was believable or not and just immediately hopped off the wagon in fear that people would buy it
Is that correct or not-
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In post 552, Vanderscamp wrote: Scum have an easier time reading things as genuine if they have a pov of knowing that it is genuine beforehand.-
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Yep!In post 555, Roden wrote: Your stance seems to be that that I as scum wouldn't be able to tell if town!Kitty's AtE was believable or not and just immediately hopped off the wagon in fear that people would buy it
Is that correct or not
If Kitty is town I'm sure that scum who knew it was genuine would have had an easier time identifying it as genuine than the town who don't know, and were more likely to overestimate how towny it seemed.-
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I mean, I don't think what I'm saying is that complicated eitherIn post 556, Roden wrote:In post 552, Vanderscamp wrote: Scum have an easier time reading things as genuine if they have a pov of knowing that it is genuine beforehand.-
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Vander’s argument feels half-baked in a town way<Embrace The Void>
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To be entirely fair I wasn't even registering it as ATE when I was typing it.-
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Hey Roden got some read list to share with us?-
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OkIn post 557, Vanderscamp wrote:
Yep!In post 555, Roden wrote: Your stance seems to be that that I as scum wouldn't be able to tell if town!Kitty's AtE was believable or not and just immediately hopped off the wagon in fear that people would buy it
Is that correct or not
If Kitty is town I'm sure that scum who knew it was genuine would have had an easier time identifying it as genuine than the town who don't know, and were more likely to overestimate how towny it seemed.
Now what leads you to believe that I as scum overestimated how towny Kitty was-
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Ngl Naerys, you probably won't like where you place in the reads listIn post 561, Naerys wrote: Hey Roden got some read list to share with us?-
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Yeah, I don't think Van is scum. I feel like they reached a conclusion and then worked backwards from there to justify it.In post 559, Gamma Emerald wrote: Vander’s argument feels half-baked in a town way-
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this is why i think it was townie rather than NAI.In post 560, KittyTacky wrote: To be entirely fair I wasn't even registering it as ATE when I was typing it.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Wouldn't town realize that they are doing that though and maybe back off of it?In post 564, Roden wrote:
Yeah, I don't think Van is scum. I feel like they reached a conclusion and then worked backwards from there to justify it.In post 559, Gamma Emerald wrote: Vander’s argument feels half-baked in a town way
I feel like scum is more likely to do what you are describing.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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I think that's one of those things where in theory it feels like that should make sense, but in practice, a lot of townies start with a vibe or energy, and then try to explain it.In post 566, Doctor Drew wrote:
Wouldn't town realize that they are doing that though and maybe back off of it?In post 564, Roden wrote:
Yeah, I don't think Van is scum. I feel like they reached a conclusion and then worked backwards from there to justify it.In post 559, Gamma Emerald wrote: Vander’s argument feels half-baked in a town way
I feel like scum is more likely to do what you are describing.
Whereas I've noticed scum pigeonhole themselves in a lot for 'needing' a reason to scum read someone to the point it looks produced/forced, where they setup a trajectory for a push rather than just straight go for it.
It's a reason I try to be impulsive as scum (while being aware of gamestate on a social level) because it comes off more natural.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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and i do believe that last thing there isn't natural for people as scum, and is something that needs to be trained and worked on for years to do well.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
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I've been tunneled by townies for far worse reasons tbh. And I've been guilty of reaching conclusions and trying to fit the evidence in the past as town.In post 566, Doctor Drew wrote:
Wouldn't town realize that they are doing that though and maybe back off of it?In post 564, Roden wrote:
Yeah, I don't think Van is scum. I feel like they reached a conclusion and then worked backwards from there to justify it.In post 559, Gamma Emerald wrote: Vander’s argument feels half-baked in a town way
I feel like scum is more likely to do what you are describing.
I think Van just doesn't have solid reads atm and doesn't know where to push. Which, I mean, fair. There's not a whole lot going on right now. But that's also why I think they're likely town here; in this game state, there isn't much pressure for people to find a slot to push, so scum can safely do very little right now.-
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Nah town plays that way very often imeIn post 566, Doctor Drew wrote:
Wouldn't town realize that they are doing that though and maybe back off of it?In post 564, Roden wrote:
Yeah, I don't think Van is scum. I feel like they reached a conclusion and then worked backwards from there to justify it.In post 559, Gamma Emerald wrote: Vander’s argument feels half-baked in a town way
I feel like scum is more likely to do what you are describing.<Embrace The Void>
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Well fuck me sideways I guess lol.
I think I do understand the argument for TownVander a bit more though at the very least.'dREW DID IT BETTER' - T-Bone
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Drew you really feel like scum here lol
i wanna town read you, but not gonna lie, it really feels like it this gameCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Where's yessiree? Oddly calm for e-2.-
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I think it's an act. I do sense some frantic energy behind their bing chillin posts.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
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