Toriel's Patience (end)

[Sakura Hana]

Well at least Kyouko will have enough time to catch up.

[Dunnstral]

It's Toriel's Patience, not Toriel's skip to the next phase

[Isis]

Previous

Toriel and Dunnstral walked to the room they finally had an appointment in.

Toriel was hoping for Dunnstral's admission.

The room was full of teachers, and there were no students. They were all seated in student sized decks at the back of the classroom. Dunnstral was invited to the front of the classroom by someone who seemed to be Rebecca's superior.

"Draw that thing you drew again, and explain. Not the letter, the other thing".

Toriel found a vacant desk, even though she was far too large for it. She sat sideways so her legs faced away from the desk's table, put her arms in her lap, and turned her neck sideways to watch patiently.

Dunnstral began to trace the animal he had drawn the day before yesterday. He added extra details this time, including the environment and the direction of water flow of the stream. Dunnstral thought about labeling the picture with the name of the animal, but he did not know spelling, only how to draw letters by looking at them.

[RCEnigma]

Cmoooooon *pokes Dunn* do the thing

[Bingle]

It's Toriel's Patience, not Toriel's skip to the next phase

Announcing Toriel’s Skip to the Next Phase: An Isis Game. Coming to a theme queue near you June 2027.

[Alisae]

Bingle you'll be a skeleton by the time its 2027

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Alisae, can you talk to me on Dann? Because I think Dann's posting is very clean. Like it's polished and worked on, I can tell he puts thought into his posts in a way that is hard to replicate. It makes it easy to townread cause it looks like good solving. What makes Dann a wolf? Can you point me to your posts?

So, everything that you're describing is very realistically likely to come from Dannflor. Dannflor really likes deepwolfing and they will just look very good.
I think the biggest differences between a town!Dannflor and a wolf!Dannflor is that town!Dannflor has moments that are easily able to be identified as the guy just wanting to be right where as wolf!Dannflor will just opt to look very good. I think Dannflor is a wolf who does not want to be right on me and is doing literally everything in his power to try to keep me in poe.

Not to agree with Dannflor being scum but why shouldn't you be in the poe (at this point in the game)? You're saying town!Dannflor would not have you in his poe or am I oversimplifying your meaning here?

[Alisae]

how dare you talk to me in that way

[ssbm_Kyouko]

but why not tho

[Alisae]

I don't really care or feel compelled to do answer to you

[ssbm_Kyouko]

ok o wise one

[Taly]

wHaT abOuT mE

AliSaE

[ssbm_Kyouko]

How does it feel to be one step closer to ascension Dunn?

[Alisae]

wHaT abOuT mE

AliSaE

shut up stupid bird I always ignore you

[Taly]

Taly

has been daykilled.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

troubled
i’m having a hard time discerning scum, i think meuh could be because her arguments lately haven’t been it for me

but i don’t feel like there’s a lot to solve freedom off of.

i think atp either of those two wagons are the best option but… meh. low confidence on alisae town rn.

same I probably glazed over it since I'm reading very fast, but I didn't follow where the freedom votes came from because Merlyn seemed okay to my recollection

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Taly

has been daykilled.

I panicked in the pedit ngl but then I saw it wasn't isis

[Taly]

i love when i meme and it ends in a townslip

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I guess i'll go play some videogames, and come back with a clearer mind.
Then i'll try to figure out this mess.
But there's one thing that's been bugging me.
And that is Alisae.
I dont think Alisae Scum makes the kind of posts e did towards me.
In fact sometimes i think that i'm eir literal focus this entire phase.
Yet if Alisae's town, then i'm wrong somewhere.
And i need to figure out where my head is at.
My gut's telling me to vote freedom.
My mind's telling me to stay on Meuh.
My townreads say freedom's likely town.
My heart says Meuh's likely town.

I don't even know where to go anymore

Flips table

Ok, rant over, maybe i do really need to clear my head a bit.

Like this makes Sakura scum a hard pill to swallow

fwiw I got the opposite vibe

[ssbm_Kyouko]

give me a succinct reason for

sakura

scum

Fake-feeling lack of confidence, odd treatment of townreads around her, paranoia mismatched with actual progression, not assuming her stances and delegating them to others

im not ready to consider

sakura

-scum, that world somewhat dictates a team of deepwolves and im not starving for scumreads anymore.

@Taly - Why make 2601 if this is the response? To say you're not starving for scumreads at this point means you have several? Or does it mean you don't feel like you need more anymore? Both?

It's not so close to deadline (a couple of days) that meuh has to be the flip here and the deadline is even getting an extension based on Random Nurse's replacement timer (which was still pending) + 24 hours. 2601 feels disingenuous when it seems like you don't care for an answer some 20 minutes later. There was an opportunity here I think for you to lead something away from Meuh and if you weren't lacking scumreads I feel like, were I in your shoes after asking 2601 (which looks like "give me a reason it shouldn't be you - give me someone else instead"), I would, as town, be having misgivings about eliminating Meuh. You don't seem to have them though.

Does anyone else (@Dunnstral especially with your hours being numbered) see partner equity between Taly and Sakura from this? It feels like if Meuh's answer were not Sakura that maybe Taly was willing to a do a different townie since Meuh had commited a sparelist containing Taly?

Even after the hammer Taly asks for a "final" readslist which realistically is innocuous and NAI, but after typing all this out it feels like reaching for a final stamp of approval from who Taly knows will flip town. This last bit is confbiased from my interpretation of 2601 and its continuation though.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

kind of just want to vote random ari slot atp my brain is goop

I even missed the original 2605, Ydrasse was on Meuh's wagon at hammer so there was definitely opportunity to move elsewhere

[ssbm_Kyouko]

i also need to look at keyleth closer as well, a lot of that read is tonal and excitement but it’s fakeable i think and iirc key voted closer to where i expect wolves to

Reassuring to see mandate's slot is not blindly on board with town!Keyleth, helps with misgivings about mandate and by extension his read on Dannflor that have been developing since his main was revealed to be RC

[Ydrasse]

i don’t move my vote a lot and i wasn’t compelled enough at that point, i think i could have gotten there but idk

[Ydrasse]

i was just annoyed by the whole
hand wave at it all!!

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I still think, I wanna go spare and send Ydrasse over because with that I'll feel much better with the town core established early because there reads seemed really well written. If that slot is bad then obviously so is my way of handling this game.

I get concerned seeing this shortly after Ydrasse starts to reconsider Keyleth's alignment. Assuming Dunn flips scum we'll need to be careful of this sort of thing, because as we spare consensus town, we get left with the less-consensus town that might have not been spared if the consensus town were still around as stumps or something like that. If Dunn is scum we'll need to be wary of them crafting a scenario where they can slip a deepwolf through to sparing by way of sparing and killing the townies that would otherwise not spare that deepwolf. Like this is obvious I think but should still be stated in case it's missed by anyone.