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Post Post #3250 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:07 am

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In post 944, Dunnstral wrote: not 744 surely
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Post Post #3251 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:20 am

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In post 1000, Sakura Hana wrote: UNVOTE:
In post 1006, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1005, Dannflor wrote:
In post 1000, Sakura Hana wrote: UNVOTE:
i'd be interested to know what your read on me now is

sorry if you think ive been uncharitable or putting words in your mouth or something
Now that the reason for my doubt of my TR of you is gone im TRing you again. Besides as I said my vote was mainly for pressure and the need for that is gone as well.
In post 1010, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 1007, Dannflor wrote: i guess im just kinda perplexed that me being gone from the thread for 6 hours or whatever made you doubt your town read on me
Am i not explaining myself clearly?
I saw some people mention a SR on you and vote you, I saw Taly's post mentioning something about you being gone coz you were "scum happy with the current situation" or something similar (at least that's how i interpreted it) and i'm like "maybe there's another explanation for this" but then i remember someone, dont remember who, mentioning you were "Superficially good" and i'm like "did i get taken in by someone being superficially good and wrongly TR them?" and decided to help apply pressure on you.

Idk how else to explain it more clearly.
I'm starting to get marcistar vibes the more I read of Sakura and I think the lead-up to the unvote in 1000 and the subsequent talk with Dann are maybe likely to come from town. Feels like scum has a hard time swallowing that pill and admitting to where they may have made a mistake or at least a poor decision. I feel like scum in this situation plays harder into it and goes for some kind of ATE play instead. Don't have any questions for you so far, but feeling better.

Still concerned about this somehow being Dunn-Sakura from Dunn's interactions in thread, and the idea originally came to me from Mandate, but individually Sakura's scum equity is lowering (I think I used that term right - she's getting townier to me)
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Post Post #3252 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:27 am

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In post 1034, Mandate wrote: I do feel, uh, pretty unreserved about Sakura town now so that's nice
I like Mandate arriving to this around the same time as me in my reading of the thread

Btw if anyone has questions for me, there's no need to wait for the full reading. I am trying to pay attention to the "front" of the thread via notifications as I read through it so yeah
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Post Post #3253 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:36 am

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Post Post #3254 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:22 am

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i still genuinely dont know how to approach
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does scum say unhinged shit to save their ass when it wasnt necessary?

but, i want to townread it... because
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made plays like this as town before

like

what

im honestly trying here and im getting nowhere
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Post Post #3255 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 am

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I'm reading up now.
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Post Post #3256 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:23 am

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i want to flip it, but thats what he wants, and i dont want that
*malds*
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Post Post #3257 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:25 am

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dunnstral, dannflor, implosion, aliase, keyleth, lazy shirou-
help
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Post Post #3258 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:26 am

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like, i have somewhere between 6 to 9 townreads

and ive never had a "range of potential townreads" in a game before, but that's where im at until i settle
bingle
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Post Post #3259 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:27 am

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hehehe 69

im actually 12, i was born in 2011, and i began forum mafia at the age of 3
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Post Post #3260 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:30 am

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In post 3255, Freedom wrote: I'm reading up now.
I'd change my preference of first spare to ssbm or Ali.
ssbm, because her rep in feels towny.
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Post Post #3261 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:55 am

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In post 3247, Dunnstral wrote: There is no night kill between Toriel being spared and the next spare.

Nights 1-3 are skipped. Toriel is the day 3 Spare, and then the following night is the last skipped night.
Oh. Push it back a night then.
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Post Post #3262 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:01 am

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In post 3254, Taly wrote: i still genuinely dont know how to approach
bingle's
alignment

does scum say unhinged shit to save their ass when it wasnt necessary?

but, i want to townread it... because
bingle's
made plays like this as town before

like

what

im honestly trying here and im getting nowhere
I think this is a later problem. If you go down the rabbit hole now you’re going to lose sight of just flipping scum by chasing a maybe. I doubt it gets clearer for you by stressing over it.
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Post Post #3263 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:03 am

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In post 3254, Taly wrote: i still genuinely dont know how to approach
bingle's
alignment

does scum say unhinged shit to save their ass when it wasnt necessary?

but, i want to townread it... because
bingle's
made plays like this as town before

like

what

im honestly trying here and im getting nowhere
I mean, I think that it's more or less nai lol. I think if I had to read into it I'd be inclined to call it more town than scum, because getting limmed today (from a purely win condition point of view, not an emotional one) probably feels a little bad for town but quite bad for scum because it'd mean both their teammates need to be spared. But if Bingle does genuinely believe that there's no chance of ever being spared then that kind of becomes a shrug. It's all sort of a shrug.
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Post Post #3264 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:04 am

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In post 546, Mandate wrote: If I say BE Taly Keyleth Dann is all town
And I also like Meuh Implo Sakura
And add a very gentle townlean on Merlyn

There should be lots of scum in Beeboy Ali Shirou Dunn Aristeia
I tr mandate but, this seems like an inordinate amount of town in the scum pile.
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Post Post #3265 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:08 am

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In post 574, Dunnstral wrote: My read on Keyleth is based on the feeling that they really misunderstood the setup, and that relies on the thought that mafia are more likely to understand it as they would have had time to talk about it, but that is not infallible logic as it is based on an assumption.

Lazy Shirou I liked their posts spanning from to 449, but I am wary about them because I think they are capable of trickery and I don't have a good read on them. On second thoughts I really like posts and so I would move them out of the 'least confident' designation.

Merlyn simply does not have a lot of content, and this was pretty much a pure tone read.
I like this keyleth read. Mostly in the Dunn being aware and still giving the read out knowing that’s it’s super scumteam composition dependent.
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Post Post #3266 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:09 am

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In post 3263, implosion wrote: I mean, I think that it's more or less nai lol. I think if I had to read into it I'd be inclined to call it more town than scum, because getting limmed today (from a purely win condition point of view, not an emotional one) probably feels a little bad for town but quite bad for scum because it'd mean both their teammates need to be spared. But if Bingle does genuinely believe that there's no chance of ever being spared then that kind of becomes a shrug. It's all sort of a shrug.
Actually this is a good point, maybe i got taken in by emotion.
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Post Post #3267 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:10 am

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I’m also running into an issue where I have keyleth kind of high in towniness and it’s mostly because of other people pointing out things they think are townie about keyleth and nothing I’m seeing them doing and idk how to feel about it.

Taking my own advice and making it a later problem though.
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Post Post #3268 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:14 am

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i don't think alisae is town anymore
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Post Post #3269 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:18 am

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*gasp* dannflor
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Post Post #3270 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:19 am

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why are there votes on
RCE
tbh
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Post Post #3271 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:19 am

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In post 3255, Freedom wrote: I'm reading up now.
this is the only thing i remember when i think of your slot
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Post Post #3272 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:21 am

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In post 3268, Dannflor wrote: i don't think alisae is town anymore
You’re cruisin for a bruisin pal!
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Post Post #3273 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:21 am

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I’m curious why though.
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Post Post #3274 (ISO) » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:23 am

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i kind of want to get on with the sparing tbh
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