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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:37 pm

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In post 239, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 238, Naerys wrote: Flavor leading wagon gives me a deja vu
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in case i died, which i was feeling too townie at this time.
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:38 pm

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If Flavor Leaf is scum he's an incredibly baller scum.

The combination of confidence and pushing reads, while not pushing them in a way that is IMO designed to be especially convincing or towny, screams to me that his thoughts are all genuine.
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:39 pm

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Ok I didn't even see that claim.


Gamma, I don't think you're especially scummy but I think your reads are very wrong!
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:41 pm

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ive also been keeping a notes PT this game to go with my would be low energy, and my thought processes behind doing certain things, but low energy doesnt look like the right play.

I was going to fake a town read on Drew in a little bit, then target them tonight, but dont wanna do that anymore.


You wanna know something else. I had a troll low energy day in Demon Slayer, and Day 2, guess who ended up pushing me. ScumDrew.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:43 pm

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Gamma is town, most of their reads and pushes are fair, and it's alright to be wrong, and in fact, probably should take some shots to allow yourself to be wrong to figure the game out at this point in time, and while I think Vanders is town, there's something about Vander I don't trust. I don't know how I feel about that in more depth right now, but I've felt that way about Vander slot whole game. So I am worried about a potential pocket.

But yeah, if there's scum on Kitty, it was Yess or Drew.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:43 pm

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I feel like Drew smelled my suspicion of him even though i was keeping it quiet.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:46 pm

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In post 287, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 225, KittyTacky wrote: I had a bad feeling about that wagon.

Will re-skim and update my list in a bit.

Likely more than 1 scum on that wagon actually.
Like, does seem like someone with a town mindset makes this post?

This is what I, and I assume Roden, were talking about with a soul read.

Also claiming VT before E-1 seems a bit odd for town to do imo.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:49 pm

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In post 403, Flavor Leaf wrote: ive also been keeping a notes PT this game to go with my would be low energy, and my thought processes behind doing certain things, but low energy doesnt look like the right play.

I was going to fake a town read on Drew in a little bit, then target them tonight, but dont wanna do that anymore.


You wanna know something else. I had a troll low energy day in Demon Slayer, and Day 2, guess who ended up pushing me. ScumDrew.
I literally pushed you because of the play Ali was gonna make(or already did? I don't remember the timing)

I basically was just trying to do what I can to make you look bad there.

I also pushed you in the mini that ended with you me and python, where we were both town(me and you I mean).

I also questioned you in Mafia had a cop with your Miller claim.

You out yourself as town when you are town, I just haven't seen it here yet.

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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:50 pm

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In post 287, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 225, KittyTacky wrote: I had a bad feeling about that wagon.

Will re-skim and update my list in a bit.

Likely more than 1 scum on that wagon actually.
Like, does seem like someone with a town mindset makes this post?

This is what I, and I assume Roden, were talking about with a soul read.

Also claiming VT before E-1 seems a bit odd for town to do imo.
Drew said this, but the only other comment about soul read was Drew saying "why is soul read so bad?" and it just felt like they were trying to piggy back and align themselves with Roden. It was just kind of odd.

I also talked about earlier how I think the people to move off of Kitty after claiming VT was likelier to be sketchy, I was referring to Drew.


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In post 287, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 225, KittyTacky wrote: I had a bad feeling about that wagon.

Will re-skim and update my list in a bit.

Likely more than 1 scum on that wagon actually.
Like, does seem like someone with a town mindset makes this post?

This is what I, and I assume Roden, were talking about with a soul read.

Also claiming VT before E-1 seems a bit odd for town to do imo.
In post 294, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 293, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 292, Gamma Emerald wrote: I think I can afford you a little trust. As a treat.
I like treats.
Also since I do trust your reads are pure.

I will sheep you on Roden

VOTE: Roden


This line of posts doesn't add up. They further talked about how Kitty didn't seem townie, but then joined on Roden.


It especially doesn't look good after Kitty's line of posts. Roden's reasoning, while weak to AtE, feels genuine, and at the end of the day, I wasn't there quite yet when they said that, but I am now, and I do feel Kitty is town.

I feel the Kitty wagon was incredibly successful in furthering a Kitty read, and getting info on who joined up.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:51 pm

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In post 407, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 403, Flavor Leaf wrote: ive also been keeping a notes PT this game to go with my would be low energy, and my thought processes behind doing certain things, but low energy doesnt look like the right play.

I was going to fake a town read on Drew in a little bit, then target them tonight, but dont wanna do that anymore.


You wanna know something else. I had a troll low energy day in Demon Slayer, and Day 2, guess who ended up pushing me. ScumDrew.
I literally pushed you because of the play Ali was gonna make(or already did? I don't remember the timing)

I basically was just trying to do what I can to make you look bad there.

I also pushed you in the mini that ended with you me and python, where we were both town(me and you I mean).

I also questioned you in Mafia had a cop with your Miller claim.

You out yourself as town when you are town, I just haven't seen it here yet.

Pre Edit: What's wrong with that post?

cuz you aint lookin
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:52 pm

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In post 407, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 403, Flavor Leaf wrote: ive also been keeping a notes PT this game to go with my would be low energy, and my thought processes behind doing certain things, but low energy doesnt look like the right play.

I was going to fake a town read on Drew in a little bit, then target them tonight, but dont wanna do that anymore.


You wanna know something else. I had a troll low energy day in Demon Slayer, and Day 2, guess who ended up pushing me. ScumDrew.
I literally pushed you because of the play Ali was gonna make(or already did? I don't remember the timing)

I basically was just trying to do what I can to make you look bad there.

I also pushed you in the mini that ended with you me and python, where we were both town(me and you I mean).

I also questioned you in Mafia had a cop with your Miller claim.

You out yourself as town when you are town, I just haven't seen it here yet.

Pre Edit: What's wrong with that post?
Barely, and it was different still. I don't mind the push. Actually, the push had nothing to do with it even.

It was the beforehand. Here I feel you smelled that I was suspicious of you and tried to get ahead of it and water the Gamma-Flavor doubt to a sapling.

You've been working the Gamma plant for a minute now even pre-Flavor imo.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:53 pm

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In post 407, Doctor Drew wrote: Pre Edit: What's wrong with that post?
meant to copy/paste into my post after
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:54 pm

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Vander, Roden, Gamma, Elements, Naerys, Kitty, are my strongest town reads. I have some paranoia around Elements/Vander, but I don't think it's ever both of them here. Celebloki is probably somewhere near there, but I'll need to interact with them more as time goes on, but im also leaning town there.
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:55 pm

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In post 405, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like Drew smelled my suspicion of him even though i was keeping it quiet.
If I were scum I would pocket you without you knowing it and let you lead me to the mislim.

Pre Edit: Gamma is the only person I will trust here and will sheep them on their reads.

That's why I wanted their opinion on you when they voiced some similar feelings I had about you.

Pre Edit2: Yes, I have been focusing on Gamma's reads and following her, re: my above Edit

Do you think Gamma is scum?
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:57 pm

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In post 413, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 405, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like Drew smelled my suspicion of him even though i was keeping it quiet.
If I were scum I would pocket you without you knowing it and let you lead me to the mislim.

Pre Edit: Gamma is the only person I will trust here and will sheep them on their reads.

That's why I wanted their opinion on you when they voiced some similar feelings I had about you.

Pre Edit2: Yes, I have been focusing on Gamma's reads and following her, re: my above Edit

Do you think Gamma is scum?
Why are you sheeping Gamma?
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:58 pm

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In post 414, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 413, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 405, Flavor Leaf wrote: I feel like Drew smelled my suspicion of him even though i was keeping it quiet.
If I were scum I would pocket you without you knowing it and let you lead me to the mislim.

Pre Edit: Gamma is the only person I will trust here and will sheep them on their reads.

That's why I wanted their opinion on you when they voiced some similar feelings I had about you.

Pre Edit2: Yes, I have been focusing on Gamma's reads and following her, re: my above Edit

Do you think Gamma is scum?
Why are you sheeping Gamma?
Do you think I would be so blatant as scum?
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:00 pm

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whats wrong with blatant
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:02 pm

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the fact im using bad logic and reasoning instead of good logic for a lot of my earlier reads is not scumFlavor. lol

you saying i aint shown townie is cap
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:03 pm

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whether you believe scumFlavor would do that purposefully is another thing, but the line of aint shown that cap
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:05 pm

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In post 417, Flavor Leaf wrote: the fact im using bad logic and reasoning instead of good logic for a lot of my earlier reads is not scumFlavor. lol

you saying i aint shown townie is cap
I never said that

I said you show townie eventually, just haven't seen it yet.

Maybe you think you have, and maybe you actually have, but I haven't seen what I eventually do see yet.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:06 pm

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In post 398, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 391, Gamma Emerald wrote: I kinda do but I feel like I also saw vaguely similar stuff in Mafia Have A Cop
you hate how much you know this is town me lol
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:08 pm

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In post 419, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 417, Flavor Leaf wrote: the fact im using bad logic and reasoning instead of good logic for a lot of my earlier reads is not scumFlavor. lol

you saying i aint shown townie is cap
I never said that

I said you show townie eventually, just haven't seen it yet.

Maybe you think you have, and maybe you actually have, but I haven't seen what I eventually do see yet.
i think whatever tell you got back then isn't actually a townie tell and is just something i happened to do as town once or twice.

cuz you've said that line before when I was town.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:09 pm

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I just want you to know FL, that I absolutely caught that crumb, signaling town investigative.

Good crumb though. Not that I had much doubt but this further means naerys less lilely to be scum eliminating them as killer / vanillaizer.

I agree with your list minus Kitty / Celebloki. There are things in Kitty's response that continue to be objectively untrue, for example their disposition on looker. I can classify their other opinions re: contributions/ good and bad vibes as subjective opinions but it isn't quite fitting into place just yet.

I was of the opinion that drew was nominally towny. I'll revisit.
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:10 pm

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In post 402, Vanderscamp wrote: Ok I didn't even see that claim.


Gamma, I don't think you're especially scummy but I think your reads are very wrong!
Okay? I think saying this when I opted to not go straight into pushing FL is an overstep.

Also, I feel kinda skeevy about Drew’s FL progression
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:13 pm

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In post 387, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 386, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 371, Elements wrote: FL feels very different to 245
I agree but he’s also kinda failing the vibe check
I like giving Flavor a long leash since I feel the towniness(if there) will shine through at some point.

But ya, I am kinda with you here Gamma.
In post 390, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 388, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 380, Flavor Leaf wrote: Naerys i think is town who wants me to be scum, and is trying to find something

But alas, i am town taking it easy this game.

I also shoot out honey everywhere.
Like this Naerys read screams guilty conscience. Hid objective is to pre-emptively neutralize a scum read he expects to occur by suggesting Naerys is fishing for reasons.
You wanna vote Flavor with me?
In post 392, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 391, Gamma Emerald wrote: I kinda do but I feel like I also saw vaguely similar stuff in Mafia Have A Cop
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In post 376, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 371, Elements wrote: FL feels very different to 245
When does Flavor seem similar from game to game?
Can I answer?

When I want you to think I seem similar.
Like, this does not look great.
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