Guns & Roses VI [Game Over]

[Titus]

To me, it's between Sircakez and Ali.

[Redados]

Ali?

[pisskop]

if this game becomes a "taly has to rethink his correct townreads to get the game moving, but oh wait! is scumread the closer they get to elo"


im going to lose my shit

I mean, its pretty obvious Im town and youre trying to mislim me

[pisskop]

If there were 2 townreads I have that I want people not to yesman on its ari and ali

[Redados]

if this game becomes a "taly has to rethink his correct townreads to get the game moving, but oh wait! is scumread the closer they get to elo"


im going to lose my shit

I mean, its pretty obvious Im town and youre trying to mislim me

If my math is correct, you are one of three people with two votes on you, and Taly does not have a vote on you.

[Redados]

You still haven't answered me on

Red

:/

i posted my reasoning on theta on this page

viewtopic.php?t=91817&start=1575

Yeah that’s old he wants something refreshed that takes me into account

[Redados]

Fixed mindset is anti town

[pisskop]

I think that the reads people had at the end of day 1 have more weight than any they made after, due to the nature of the gamestate.

Reads and opinions change, but mafia has no loyalty right now other than to their wincon. They have nobody else to defend

[Aristeia]

Fixed mindset is anti town

its only anti town if you're not mafia

[Redados]

What

[Aristeia]

To me, it's between Sircakez and Ali.

im willing to vote sircakez

not realy willing to vote alisae

[SirCakez]

You think there’s just a super obvious wolf to vote out and that the towncore is all town?

No the wolf isn't obvious but I don't think they are in the towncore

[SirCakez]

I think that the reads at the start of day 2 are largely going to be good, and any scum angling to win would step up their game immediately if they wanted to stick around.

hence slots like cakez that have had a large change in play are suspect

What changed in my play? I feel like I've been pretty consistent

[pisskop]

Night 1

Feels like Cakez is deliberately sidestepping the discussion on why we are choose to not go after those slots.

Elaborate

ISO post 36 of 71 to date.

The very first thing you say in D2 is 'I'm recalibrating my reads.'

Reading reading reading

Dunn is like nullscum for me I keep getting weird tone reads off his posts but I can't point to anything specific enough to make a coherent argument for it

I think Bulges lash out on pg 39 was hella town not sure what that means for Ari's alignment yet

so ya consider my vote essentially on Dunn but I want to wait a bit here I am a little spooked by lack of counter like Titus said and wagon comp

You call dunn nullscum, and as the day progresses you get significantly more vocal about asking them to act town but never actually vote there. You defend bulge and, just as Ive been saying mafia should, you immediately enter survivalism mode and begin upping your play and then sink back into the abyss once people start pushing your rather naked vote on me.

[pisskop]

Mafia has nobody left to defend, and town cant really 'scumhunt' the way I would prefer to via association, wagon analysis, forcing people to take sides, etc.

It's now a social game, and your play reflects that shift.

[pisskop]

That Im not voting you is more a reflection of my playstyle than any innocence I presume you have

[pisskop]

You are, in short, the very definition of the play I expect out of mafia in this situation. You did everything I've been saying is optimal for mafia with the exception of claiming night1 rose

[Redados]

Night 1

Feels like Cakez is deliberately sidestepping the discussion on why we are choose to not go after those slots.

Elaborate

ISO post 36 of 71 to date.

The very first thing you say in D2 is 'I'm recalibrating my reads.'

Reading reading reading

Dunn is like nullscum for me I keep getting weird tone reads off his posts but I can't point to anything specific enough to make a coherent argument for it

I think Bulges lash out on pg 39 was hella town not sure what that means for Ari's alignment yet

so ya consider my vote essentially on Dunn but I want to wait a bit here I am a little spooked by lack of counter like Titus said and wagon comp

You call dunn nullscum, and as the day progresses you get significantly more vocal about asking them to act town but never actually vote there. You defend bulge and, just as Ive been saying mafia should, you immediately enter survivalism mode and begin upping your play and then sink back into the abyss once people start pushing your rather naked vote on me.

VOTE: SirCakez
E-2?

[SirCakez]

why is

cakez

and

enchant

the partners to

dunn/bulge

?

i dont want play or mech answers

me want associatives

I have to reassess.
Mafia is toying with emotions

I think we should wait for a replacement.

Hard to scumread this.

can you elaborate? These posts don't really say much ti me

They echoed a genuine sentiment of frustration from me that I don't think had the intention to pocket or Mislead.

Toying with emotions is not a statement I see scum make often about scum's intentions.

Waiting for replacement is ideal compared to tuebolimming

I think Mala is capable of expressing that as scum

[SirCakez]

Night 1

Feels like Cakez is deliberately sidestepping the discussion on why we are choose to not go after those slots.

Elaborate

ISO post 36 of 71 to date.

The very first thing you say in D2 is 'I'm recalibrating my reads.'

Reading reading reading

Dunn is like nullscum for me I keep getting weird tone reads off his posts but I can't point to anything specific enough to make a coherent argument for it

I think Bulges lash out on pg 39 was hella town not sure what that means for Ari's alignment yet

so ya consider my vote essentially on Dunn but I want to wait a bit here I am a little spooked by lack of counter like Titus said and wagon comp

You call dunn nullscum, and as the day progresses you get significantly more vocal about asking them to act town but never actually vote there. You defend bulge and, just as Ive been saying mafia should, you immediately enter survivalism mode and begin upping your play and then sink back into the abyss once people start pushing your rather naked vote on me.

Yeah my reads on Dunn and Bulge were bad I acknowledged that ages ago. Find that sus if you want
I don't think I have been in survivalism mode at all this game. Y'all can elim me today if you want. I don't have the energy to fight this one.

[SirCakez]

I have to die before elo obviously so whatever

[pisskop]

Yeah my reads on Dunn and Bulge were bad I acknowledged that ages ago. Find that sus if you want

We're in such a good spot that I think you would respect that I find you on the lower end of players and would want to mech clear through you rather than with you


P: yeah.

[SirCakez]

I've lost my grasp on this game and I don't think I'll get it back, I don't even feel good about my PK vote anymore but I don't know where would be a better target. Maybe Redados I guess

[SirCakez]

im feeling pretty depressed right now so it's gonna be really hard for me to stir up the fight back I need here
I promise this isn't some kind of AtE, just context for why I'm feeling this way about this game

[pisskop]

its been a terribly crappy month for me too. A bad year overall, actually.

In the words of some philosopher or something 'If you hide it doesnt go away'