In post 299, davesaz wrote:When you get a chance look at 189. Rebuttal is welcome. Others are also invited to check it out.
Oh, well if nothing else you're conflating anti-town with scummy. Even if what Dunn did was anti-town that doesn't mean it was malicious rather than misguided.
It also assumes as an inherent premise that Dunn's analysis was completely wrong-- I think it's a pretty big stretch to say that he was implying "we should not consider these people as targets AT ALL", and a smaller stretch to say that maybe we shouldn't focus on them for now, but if he was implying the latter then it's only anti-town if he's not correct.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
I'd be skeptical if you claimed to have a solid read on me now, anyway.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
And I'm pretty sure we had that exact same exchange in the last game we played lmao
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
In post 299, davesaz wrote:When you get a chance look at 189. Rebuttal is welcome. Others are also invited to check it out.
Oh, well if nothing else you're conflating anti-town with scummy. Even if what Dunn did was anti-town that doesn't mean it was malicious rather than misguided.
It also assumes as an inherent premise that Dunn's analysis was completely wrong-- I think it's a pretty big stretch to say that he was implying "we should not consider these people as targets AT ALL", and a smaller stretch to say that maybe we shouldn't focus on them for now, but if he was implying the latter then it's only anti-town if he's not correct.
I don't know that the distinction is relevant for a 1st post, with regard to whether it should be pushed as a lead. I would (and did) push for the purpose of finding out which it is, and who cares about it and how. I'm not even sure how to use the results. I got a lot more on other people than I did on Dunn.
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Sure, and that's a valid reason to prod at someone early on. I'm mostly just taking issue with the claim "using pregame replacement spec is scummy".
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
kinda think davesaz wanting people to specifically look at his words about dunnstral and respond to them is generally more likely to come from town
at least in this specific situation where the words he is writing about dunnstral are pretty hedgey and unlikely to make anyone town read him for *content*
i just read through 30 posts of his iso and struggled to pick out anything i'd really call a stance or someone trying to figure out people's alignments
I did a double take when you said pisskop had 30 posts
They were mostly early though
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
The most accurate response is that I'm not townreading him. I'm curious why this is so important to you.
i'm not sure why you care about dunnstral's anti-town maybe-scummy entrance if you weren't scum reading him
At the time I cared about it because it was the only thing to care about.
Currently I'm interested in others correctly interpreting the event as coming from town me. What I need the most is for me to be able to townread people. Town kinda needs that too.
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I find it easiest to form accurate town reads on people who aren't pushing me, in part due to the "how dare you think that perfectly logical approach is scummy" bias, and in part due to an accumulated feeling over many years that I draw scumreads like excrement draws flies and other people are ignored while either saying nothing at all or being explicitly manipulative.
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In post 310, Dannflor wrote:
I don't mind the Roden wagon at all but kinda feels useless to wagon there until a replacement comes in
Oh good, I don't need to be the first one to say this. Lurker/flake pushes give me hives, and the low percentage that turn out to be scum means that sensation is right more than wrong.
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I think Dannflor can join the town pile, at least on a preliminary basis. The recent pages feel a lot more like trying to figure things out than previous.
It appears gob has either gotten busy or isn't interested in sparring. UNVOTE:
I see what you mean about pisskop. VOTE: pisskop
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In post 318, Dannflor wrote:idk it just feels like he's offering commentary on the game not actually playing the game
Unfortunately, I can empathize with being on the wrong end of this accusation.
We'll see how he responds to it though, because it's probably not the same way I would.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!