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[Cometbright]

Apologies if I missed it Merlyn, but have you said who you think Timmer's scumpartner is?

Same to you Timmer - if Merlyn is scum then who's the scumpartner?

[Dannflor]

I mean if timmer is scum than afrayed is 100% town by virtue of merlyn's inno?

[Dannflor]

so actually afrayed/timmer cannot be a team

[Dannflor]

timmer can only be scum with comet or kittie

or me from an outside perspective

[Cometbright]

I mean if timmer is scum than afrayed is 100% town by virtue of merlyn's inno?

Right duh I'm dumb.

[Dannflor]

Hmmm... I could spend a lot of time shifting people around but I think this is roughly where my mind is right now. Obligatory this is early day 1 reads that are subject to change as the day develops.

Town

Python
Anen
Black <3
Dragon <3
Gimli
Knott
Kittie
Timmer

Scum

And as promised, VOTE: TimmerRC as he's bottom of the list.

I guess this is too early for sure to say it's unpartnered, you don't really go back to hard pushing Timmer after this early bit

but I would consider a bit unlikely to come from partners

[Cometbright]

Funnily enough when I was browsing through Timmer scumpartners my first thought was "I think frankly I come out of this looking the most partnered."

[Dannflor]

was there a specific point you started town reading timmer, comet? I'm finding it difficult to track your read of him

[Cometbright]

Top of my head I think it was the frustration bit when he and Black had that mini discussion and he started properly engaging? I'll have to ISO to get you a more firm answer though.

[Cometbright]

Oh the Knott/Timmer e-1 interactions were a pretty good driver for it too - I was reading scum into Knott then so seeing him pushing at Timmer like that made me go "Well I'm more confident in Knott!scum so by virtue that makes Timmer town."

[Cometbright]

I'm not capable of processing more than four things actively in my head at once so I'm just gonna write you off as town here Dann (you can thank Black for it).

Teams in my head...

Timmer/Kittie, Merlyn/Kittie, Merlyn/Knott.

Mathematically that makes Merlyn the better execute - unless I'm Monty Hall-ing myself here.

[Dannflor]

ok I think that tracks

[Dannflor]

Funnily enough when I was browsing through Timmer scumpartners my first thought was "I think frankly I come out of this looking the most partnered."

eh I think surface level maybe but there are also posts like 87 that i think feel a bit hard to make as scum talking to a scum buddy?

it helps that I think individually you're probably the towniest slot in the game but I'd also expect a little more of a clear trajectory in your posting about your read on timmer if you were partnered. I find scum usually want to make it clear where they stand on their partner at all times, even if it's just "null"

[Dannflor]

I'm not capable of processing more than four things actively in my head at once so I'm just gonna write you off as town here Dann (you can thank Black for it).

Teams in my head...

Timmer/Kittie, Merlyn/Kittie, Merlyn/Knott.

Mathematically that makes Merlyn the better execute - unless I'm Monty Hall-ing myself here.

this is basically where I'm at

I'm trying to assess how worried I am about timmer/kittie being a thing

I wish I could just find something clearing and feel good about this but both isos are kind of sparse in mentions of each other

[Dannflor]

comet: #98 Yes I'm going to marinate on my thoughts a while we are only barely 24 hours into the game and 6 pages. I do have some gut feelings about some players but that's all they are at this moment.

I'm new, I don't have thought processes yet... I have gut feelings but those aren't based in any kind of fact, We have like 9 days to go before a decision really needs to be made.

Who are your gut feelings about?

like this is the type of post i see scum making to other scum a lot

pretty easy questions to build interactions that don't really get followed up on

i also get an uncomfortable vibe that kittie came in today pretty much having already decided merlyn was scummier than timmer and I don't really follow why that is

[Dannflor]

Does anyone else find it suspicious that both black and VIP replaced out, when it looked like they were being looked at a little too hard?

I find a kittie/merlyn team pretty unlikely

kittie has been shading VIP pretty much all game it looks like and it doesn't really look reciprocal in a distancing way

i also think the above quoted post is like... very weird to come from a scum buddy. I think that's not the sort of thing you draw attention to if your goal is to distance

more likely to be a townie who thinks they are on to something or scum trying to shade/discredit town imo

[Afrayed Knott]

timmer can only be scum with comet or kittie

or me from an outside perspective

Right now I’m swinging towards Comet. So tunneled on me it’s like OMGUS x 2

@ Comet you reek of pigeon do do.

[TimmerRC]

Apologies if I missed it Merlyn, but have you said who you think Timmer's scumpartner is?

Same to you Timmer - if Merlyn is scum then who's the scumpartner?

I've been going over this for awhile now. Not about who I think it is, but whether it makes sense to answer you. This is me talking my way through it.

While I played mafia for years this is almost definitely the only game i've ever been in where I'm apparently the only townie with a power role.

I know when the lim happens that one way or the other you will all know what I and the 2 scum know, which is that I am telling the truth. If I'm not limmed, I will then have to try to stop another night kill. So does it actually make sense for me to answer this? Does it gives out information for free?

If I list who I think the scum partner is and I'm wrong, they will assume I'm jailkeeping that person, and they will kill me knowing I mistargeted. They have to know the only solution I have is to block them, not to try to protect someone, because if I try to protect they will just kill me (I'm assuming a jailkeeper can't self-jail anyway, that would be a weird paradox thing). So by that rationale, they will target me either way, they would be foolish not to. If I mistarget, they kill me. If I name the partner correctly and target them, their kill fails.

But what I'm stuck on, is if I name who I think the partner is publicly, and I'm WRONG, they can then withhold a kill in the night banking on me blocking that player an then us all voting a townie the next day.

So where is the most benefit to the town? If no kill happens, do we then know I was right? Or was my information abused? If I die in the night, would me saying who i thought was the partner help? Or hinder?

[TimmerRC]

I do have a very strong suspicion about who the other scum is, but I am terrified of that information being used against the town's chances if I'm wrong so I ened advice here.

[Afrayed Knott]

Don’t protect me…. If that helps in anyway. Which it probably doesn’t

[Afrayed Knott]

VOTE: Comet

I’m done with her

[Afrayed Knott]

unless I'm Monty Hall-ing myself here.

what?

[Afrayed Knott]

And Comet why are you hung up on that. when this:-

I'm not accusing you of breaking the rules. What are you arguing here? I mentioned that you put Timmer to E-1 unannounced which indicates to me that if Timmer is scum then it's unlikely you're his partner. Are you arguing that you are Timmer's scum partner here?

you tell me

you seem to think you have all the answers..

Basically you are so tunnelled on me its unbelievable, listed to DE maybe...

[Afrayed Knott]

Why is this so difficult, As far as I understand Ochum's Razor we lynch Merlyn or Timmer. my vote is on Merlyn

my vote above for Comet is because she is entering my OMGUS radar, and she really needs to take a Valium.

let's do this now please

[Cometbright]

That's... certainly a string of posts.