Mini 709 - Musical Mafia - (Game Over!)


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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:42 am

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Wall-E wrote:anyone saying i'm scum should say why
Ugh, I have, now respond to it! And case against me please, otherwise you're hypocritical.

Oh, and why are you so sure RF's scum anyway? I mean, like, REALLY sure.

I really want to know why you're not voting for her if you're not sure (as I said before)
RestFermata wrote:I'm sick of this PM quoting too. It seems against the spirit of the game.
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Vote Count:
Atlas - (0)
Budja - (2) Wall-E, JordanA24
corporate - (0)
Gamma - (0)
jerseygoomba - (4) Atlas, Gamma, RestFermata, zachattack
JordanA24 - (0)
My Milked Eek - (0)
RestFermata - (1) Tolmides
Tolmides - (0)
Wall-E - (4) My Milked Eek, corporate, jerseygoomba, Budja
WhereIsTony - (0)
zachattack - (0)

With 12 alive, 7 votes will end the day.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:47 pm

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Gamma wrote:
My Milked Eek wrote:Yeah, I don't like talking about them too much either (could lead to people being modkilled (don't want that)), but to say one more thing about this:

The mod's opening flavour doesn't mention "windwoods" at all. Or any instrument classification for that matter. Nor do our role PM's (at least a few of us).

Gamma wrote:I said that I won with the woodwinds before you said you were woodwind also.
The thing is, my dear Gamma, I indirectly said I am a windwood by claiming clarinet. No denying that. A clarinet is a windwood. However, I also said, way back, that the classification of the town (if any (other than orchestra minus the brass players)) is not shared with me. As backed up by several players. It only mentions the need to remove brass players in order to win. Nowhere does it say the need to remove the threats to the windwoods or something along that line. And it nowhere says the town is the windwood section.
I got "you win with the woodwinds". So, are you telling me that the woodwinds are possibly not town? More than one town? Or am I some kind of bastard-role mafia-aligned serial-killer?
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:36 am

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Last chance Wall-E, or I'm putting my vote on you and not moving it for the rest of the day. Response to my case and case agsinst me next post please.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:57 am

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Wall-E wrote:
Gamma wrote:
My Milked Eek wrote:Yeah, I don't like talking about them too much either (could lead to people being modkilled (don't want that)), but to say one more thing about this:

The mod's opening flavour doesn't mention "windwoods" at all. Or any instrument classification for that matter. Nor do our role PM's (at least a few of us).

Gamma wrote:I said that I won with the woodwinds before you said you were woodwind also.
The thing is, my dear Gamma, I indirectly said I am a windwood by claiming clarinet. No denying that. A clarinet is a windwood. However, I also said, way back, that the classification of the town (if any (other than orchestra minus the brass players)) is not shared with me. As backed up by several players. It only mentions the need to remove brass players in order to win. Nowhere does it say the need to remove the threats to the windwoods or something along that line. And it nowhere says the town is the windwood section.
I got "you win with the woodwinds". So, are you telling me that the woodwinds are possibly not town? More than one town? Or am I some kind of bastard-role mafia-aligned serial-killer?
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:29 am

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vote Wall-E

I know this puts him at L-2

1. I never stopped suspecting him and only dropped to pressure Nek (who is no longer here)
2. He has had time to post, but no time to respond to cases against him.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:31 am

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JordanA24 wrote:Last chance Wall-E, or I'm putting my vote on you and not moving it for the rest of the day. Response to my case and case agsinst me next post please.
Well, now he's at -2, I won't, but if he goes down to -3 again, I'll put my vote on him.

Are we still deciding Gamma's NK for him, or give him options and the like or leave him completely to his own devices?
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:10 am

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I think we should

A) Decide for him

or

B) Lynch him

I do not like

C) Leave him to his own devices, relieving him of any responsibility for his night actions
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:12 am

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i support a no kill from gamma because its day 1 and i dont think we have enough information to make 2 kills today and i would hate to have him kill a townie on accident.
on a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:25 am

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That's a viable option too. I just don't want to leave him unattended because I am not confident enough that he is pro-town yet.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:28 am

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I'm down with a no kill for Gamma as I posted earlier.

Also posting that I'm experiencing internet problems which might last until the weekend. Just letting you guys know.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:24 am

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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:44 am

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I say let him choose,

If he kills we may be able to see the nature of his role.

I am always a big advocate of a vig kill on night one because it is the equivlant of a lynch with 100% scum free voting.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:47 am

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Also if we tell him not to kill, and the mob does have a blocker, than it frees the blocker to go to someone else if he does not kill.

Better IMO to try to get them to block him leaving any other pro-town power role unblocked.

If he is a sk, the mob is just as likely to block him as SK or vig comes out to about the same for scum.

If they dont have a blocker than it is still a mob free kill either way.

Now if gamma IS scum, then telling him not to kill makes it easier for him to hide his status, since he would not have to explain the mob kill either way.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:17 am

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WhereIsTony wrote:I say let him choose,

If he kills we may be able to see the nature of his role.

I am always a big advocate of a vig kill on night one because it is the
equivlant of a lynch with 100% scum free voting
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how does this make any sense at all? the scum get to vote too.

WhereIsTony wrote:Also if we tell him not to kill, and the mob does have a blocker, than it frees the blocker to go to someone else if he does not kill.

Better IMO to try to get them to block him leaving any other pro-town power role unblocked.

If he is a sk, the mob is just as likely to block him as SK or vig comes out to about the same for scum.

If they dont have a blocker than it is still a mob free kill either way.

Now if gamma IS scum, then telling him not to kill makes it easier for him to hide his status, since he would not have to explain the mob kill either way.
and all this IF talk about a blocker from you has really got me thinking. I know, what if the mob has the mob on thier side and can mod kill anyone any time?! what if im a jester and i wanna be a jack ass and get lynched?
who knows? also, i feel better letting him hide his status UNTIL we have a confident kill for him. better to let him live another day, than to kill an innocent townie.
on a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:25 am

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DO NOT LET GAMMA CHOOSE HIMSELF!

We choose a kill (yes, no kill is an option) and if he refuses or kills someone else , then we lynch him.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:37 am

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corporate's made yet another in a long line of scummy posts

jester speculation wtf

also: "HOW DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL? THE SCUM GET TO VOTE TOO!"

No, you need to read his post again. You're way off in left-field with that.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:38 am

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I'd prefer Gamma choose his own targets over letting the scum have a say in who he kills. If he doesn't get to pick his targets, I say we kill him. Yes, I realize that's the opposite of what I originally said. I'm allowed to change my opinion.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:41 am

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WhereIsTony wrote:
vote Wall-E

I know this puts him at L-2

1. I never stopped suspecting him and only dropped to pressure Nek (who is no longer here)
2. He has had time to post, but no time to respond to cases against him.
What case? Quote me anything, I will quote for you my response.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:42 am

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corporate wrote:
WhereIsTony wrote:I say let him choose,

If he kills we may be able to see the nature of his role.

I am always a big advocate of a vig kill on night one because it is the
equivlant of a lynch with 100% scum free voting
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how does this make any sense at all? the scum get to vote too.

WhereIsTony wrote:Also if we tell him not to kill, and the mob does have a blocker, than it frees the blocker to go to someone else if he does not kill.

Better IMO to try to get them to block him leaving any other pro-town power role unblocked.

If he is a sk, the mob is just as likely to block him as SK or vig comes out to about the same for scum.

If they dont have a blocker than it is still a mob free kill either way.

Now if gamma IS scum, then telling him not to kill makes it easier for him to hide his status, since he would not have to explain the mob kill either way.
and all this IF talk about a blocker from you has really got me thinking. I know, what if the mob has the mob on thier side and can mod kill anyone any time?! what if im a jester and i wanna be a jack ass and get lynched?
who knows? also, i feel better letting him hide his status UNTIL we have a confident kill for him. better to let him live another day, than to kill an innocent townie.

right.....

unvote vote corporate


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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:46 am

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WIT: What happened to voting for me? You sure changed your mind in a hurry when I pointed out corporate was twisting your post. It seemed more like corporate was trying to sit at the grownup table than necessarily get you lynched.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:49 am

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WhereIsTony wrote:
vote Wall-E

I know this puts him at L-2

1. I never stopped suspecting him and only dropped to pressure Nek (who is no longer here)
2. He has had time to post, but no time to respond to cases against him.
The context of this post seems to infer that you dropped voting for your #1 suspect in favor of pressuring someone you did not think was as scummy as me. Am I correct in this?
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:56 am

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ok, thanks for the omgus. i apologize because i did need to read your post again, let him choose = no scum voting. my bad. i was just stuck in the mind set of us choosing for him.

and wall e the jester speculation was just me trying to say us playing like there is a role blocker when we are not sure if there is one or not is just as stupid as playing as if there is a jester when someone acts like a jack ass. or someone has a PR when lurking. etc etc..
on a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:04 pm

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Ok. Noted. You're still scum, though :P
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:11 pm

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Unvote Vote: Wall-E


That ain't moving till the end of the day. Either you're scum and therefore bad for the town anyway or extremely irritating and unhelpful, and therefore bad for the town anyway. Unless anything majorly drastic happens (eg. really obv scum reveal).
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:30 pm

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Wall-E wrote:WIT: What happened to voting for me? You sure changed your mind in a hurry when I pointed out corporate was twisting your post. It seemed more like corporate was trying to sit at the grownup table than necessarily get you lynched.
I did not think he was trying to get me lynched, he did not even FOs me.

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