Open 885: Backup6 [Game Over]

[Aureal]

I'm psychic. That's why my vote is staying on Abnegation.

If you guys want further motivation to consolidate on Abnegation, consider that there's basically no chance of accidentally outing the other PR this way. Unless she wants to claim that Generic was lying.

[Freedom]

The one thing about Abnegation that is giving me pause rn is that she's still voting Aureal when she previously thought Aureal/Dann was the scumteam.
It just seems like such weird move to make as scum.
Especially when Dann is a more viable counterwagon to herself.

[meowmeow]

What... does that even mean?

i think that means i have his permission to vote him?!

[meowmeow]

i'd also be interested in hearing why abnegation thinks black is top town

on reading her iso it's not obvious if that read has developed at all since she replaced in

it's just that she hasn't done anything to make me doubt my original read.

uh was your original read just like 'scum black wouldn't get wagoned' or am i missing something

[meowmeow]

The one thing about Abnegation that is giving me pause rn is that she's still voting Aureal when she previously thought Aureal/Dann was the scumteam.
It just seems like such weird move to make as scum.
Especially when Dann is a more viable counterwagon to herself.

is this like you're scumreading abnegation but think this one thing is towny or you think abnegation is town?

i would appreciate more reads from you in general. i am not as convinced your slot is town as other people seem to be

[meowmeow]

i'll be on tomorrow to make sure we get a lim through

i still think snivy is probably the best vote and it sort of feels like that has some chance of happening

i guess i just don't feel all that strongly about dannflor vs abnegation either? my impression of abnegation has been going downhill a lot recently so might just end up voting there but meh

[Aureal]

If we take your theory that Mafia aren't likely to be sarcastic, I think this post is pretty towny of Dannflor. (Well I think it's pretty towny even without that theory, because it's totally the same reaction I was having to Snivy there.)

hi omgussing im dannflor

are you enjoying this game?

Also, I'm sorta feeling that 843 is actually kind of anti-associative between Snivy and Abnegation, because Abnegation goes on to back off of that statement in 932, calling it a joke. It seems pretty genuinely a reaction to criticism, not so much how partners would likely engage with each other. I think its defensiveness makes Abnegation look worse here.

Her reactions aren't coming off too authentic to me in several places such as this. To name another one, back when she suggested that maybe Dannflor saw T3 softing doc and he pointed out that if he was Mafia there's not much reason to run T3 up rather than just night kill. When I saw Dann's post my reaction was like "oh right, lol" because I also have issues getting non-town roles so I'm not used to thinking about how I can just get rid of players at night. But even as I was posting to that effect, Abnegation responded like she still believed it might be a possibly valid theory. Now, I

can

see some slight reason for Mafia to still want to make someone they think is a PR claim it openly, but she didn't make any argument to that effect.

[meowmeow]

i mean, obviously i do not think mafia never use sarcasm zzz.

i also hard disagree about the joke thing; i think it was like pretty obviously not serious and was also bemused people thought otherwise

maybe if they were scum they would have communicated better but i don't think snivy is the kind of person to talk things through before interacting w/ his scum partner especially

[Dannflor]

mafia never use sarcasm



/s

[Freedom]

The one thing about Abnegation that is giving me pause rn is that she's still voting Aureal when she previously thought Aureal/Dann was the scumteam.
It just seems like such weird move to make as scum.
Especially when Dann is a more viable counterwagon to herself.

is this like you're scumreading abnegation but think this one thing is towny or you think abnegation is town?

i would appreciate more reads from you in general. i am not as convinced your slot is town as other people seem to be

Leaning to the former.

[Black]

VOTE: Abnegation

[Black]

That's e-1

[Aureal]

I think an Abnegation scum flip basically guarantees Black is town, and is likewise pretty clearing for Dannflor with the way he researched Generic's previous games on the other site to rebut the thunderdome being towny thing. I'm wary of how meowmeow has approached the push on Abnegation if she flips Mafia, it seems fairly reasonably partnered in how she's been like "yeah I don't really like some things but I'd still rather vote Snivy" and 971 in particular pings me as possibly looking for someone else's reasoning to latch onto to help defend a more vulnerable partner.

[Dannflor]

5 hours til deadline btw

[Ircher]

Seeking a replacement for Abnegation. There will not be a deadline extension unless a replacement is found before deadline.

[Black]

Uh this is awkward. I would really like a claim before we push this through

[Aureal]

Hmm. If a replacement showed up and was like "no way, that first guy was lying when he claimed VT" would you believe it?

[Black]

Oh jk I forgot about Generic's claim

[camelCasedSnivy]

4 hours? fuckk

[camelCasedSnivy]

im going against my wishes here

VOTE: Abnegation

also doing mod a favor

[Freedom]

I think an Abnegation scum flip basically guarantees Black is town, and is likewise pretty clearing for Dannflor with the way he researched Generic's previous games on the other site to rebut the thunderdome being towny thing. I'm wary of how meowmeow has approached the push on Abnegation if she flips Mafia, it seems fairly reasonably partnered in how she's been like "yeah I don't really like some things but I'd still rather vote Snivy" and 971 in particular pings me as possibly looking for someone else's reasoning to latch onto to help defend a more vulnerable partner.

I think I'd agree with this.

[camelCasedSnivy]

also rip anyone who tried to rep into abnegation lol

[Aureal]

I think an Abnegation scum flip basically guarantees Black is town, and is likewise pretty clearing for Dannflor with the way he researched Generic's previous games on the other site to rebut the thunderdome being towny thing. I'm wary of how meowmeow has approached the push on Abnegation if she flips Mafia, it seems fairly reasonably partnered in how she's been like "yeah I don't really like some things but I'd still rather vote Snivy" and 971 in particular pings me as possibly looking for someone else's reasoning to latch onto to help defend a more vulnerable partner.

I think I'd agree with this.

Question: how much of the game have you read?

[meowmeow]

if abnegation flips scum track me

if i'm the tracker i'm confirmed town and will target aureal

[Dannflor]

couldn't there be a cop/rb too