BooneyToonz XVII: The Winston Chronicles [END]

[Alisae]

something like that is actually really hard to sell as mafia well and I don't think Gimli is capable of that or willing to go down that route so I'm happy to just townclear them for now

if you're saying you don't think scum!Gimli is good enough to pull it off, I kinda think he is

I am saying he wouldn't do it the guy is just clearly frustrated

[Alisae]

I also do not think he's capable he's a good player but I don't think of emotional manipulation or self-voting when I think of Gimli that just doesn't seem like is a play in his playbook

[Tanuki the Bold]

frieren is good show thanks for recommendation ali

[Gamma Emerald]

something like that is actually really hard to sell as mafia well and I don't think Gimli is capable of that or willing to go down that route so I'm happy to just townclear them for now

if you're saying you don't think scum!Gimli is good enough to pull it off, I kinda think he is

I am saying he wouldn't do it the guy is just clearly frustrated

nothing about what gimli is doing is a thing scum cannot do? Scum can be frustrated too.

[HighPrincessErinys]

something like that is actually really hard to sell as mafia well and I don't think Gimli is capable of that or willing to go down that route so I'm happy to just townclear them for now

if you're saying you don't think scum!Gimli is good enough to pull it off, I kinda think he is

I am saying he wouldn't do it the guy is just clearly frustrated

nothing about what gimli is doing is a thing scum cannot do? Scum can be frustrated too.

yeahhhh scum are. MOST CERTAINLY not above faking outrage or also just getting genuinely miffed in the same situations they would as town

[HighPrincessErinys]

VOTE: HighPrincessErinys

hi

hello is there something u want to talk about, because i really don't have anything to talk to u about.

not even why you're voting me?

[Tanuki the Bold]

why would i want to do that

[Tanuki the Bold]

u have vote parked me since page 8, theres nothing interesting in ur iso to talk about. I think its more likely a scum iso than town one. Not much to talk to u about.

[HighPrincessErinys]

u have vote parked me since page 8, theres nothing interesting in ur iso to talk about. I think its more likely a scum iso than town one. Not much to talk to u about.

dont have anyone else better to vote tbh and the joke vote on you is funny enough to keep until then

[Tanuki the Bold]

sounds like something a town player would try to rectify.

[HighPrincessErinys]

sounds like something a town player would try to rectify.

Yea! But that ain't always so easy for everyone else who is not of your

immense

skill.

[Boonskiies]

Vote Count 1.06

Winston O'brien

Spoiler:

Elements [4]:

MariaR, Merlyn, Alisae, PenguinPower,

Gimli [4]:

Gamma Emerald, Theta Alpine, Gimli, Deal With The Devil

PenguinPower [4]:

The Stage, Elements, CamelCasedSnivy, OopsieDaisy,

Alisae [1]:

Aneninen,

Tanuki the Bold [1]:

HighPrincessErinys,

Merlyn [1]:

Two Headed Dragon

Deal With The Devil [1]:

Iambic Pentameter

HighPrincessErinys [1]:

Tanuki The Bold

Not Voting [0]:

With

17

alive, it takes

9

to fade.

Day 1

ends

(expired on 2023-10-15 01:30:00)

Mod Notes:

I'll try to get at least one vote count every day.

[Aneninen]

So

[Gimli]

good morning fellow mafiascummers

[Gimli]

VOTE: HPE

I'm making firebringer a double voter

[Aneninen]

Think what you wish, but I think you should ISO a couple of players to see whether they were forming more reads or asking more questions...

you're posting a lot to try and make it seem like you're solving, that's the difference

someone like camel has barely solved at all but he's also not trying to squeeze reads out of his ass like i think you are

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
I don't even try to respond to everything in a large game, especially whenever I get back to the game, I can see about 10 new Pages. I try to read everything, when something appears to be irrelevant (joke, references to other games etc.), I skip it, when something pings me in some way, I note it, when I have questions fire them away...
Like it or not, what you can see is the result.

I think I like VIP a bit more after that last burst of posts
But there’s also the concern of the posting pattern fitting a way I’ve seen scum play sometimes, where they remain in a perpetual state of “catching up” which makes direct interaction harder

That's my style. Actually, in a slower game I try to respond everything, in a fast one, see above. But you're right, I usually do the same as scum, so it's actually NAI.

penguin absolutely needs pressure here

Let's see what happens (early events only).
Jumped on it: (Stage), Elements, Snivy, Daisy, Theta,
Didn't jump on it: Gimli, Alisae (might be slow-catchuping, like me), Tanuki, Devil
Penguin's reaction: nothing (yet?) - which I guess is null.
This may be informative later. When we have some flips.

I WANNA END THE DAY

lets end the day

Terrible vibes. Especially in connection with that sudden Penguin wagon.

Daisy herself said that her and elements is never a TvT and that this isn't how Daisy and Elements get into a TvT. I TR Daisy right now so Elements seems like a really good vote

And remember this one once one of these [Daisy, Elements, Alisae] has flipped.

I am NOT a 'non-miller claim'

this is really annoying me rn

Can someone tell me what some town reason for this post could be?

I still think Elements scum > Elements town right now and wouldn't mind flipping the slot, but I've been tunneled on the slot for a while so wanna branch out and see if exploring other slots changes how I feel about El. Not in a rush to end the day.

This sounds so fabricated in my mind. Something like "The Elements wagon is not moving, let's find some excuse for jumping on someone else..."

VOTE: gimli

sure lets do this i won't stand getting it across to you d2 anyway theta

That's just bad. Unless you're some super-negative utility PLUS Miller... but in that case, why didn't you claimed Miller?

PP push is fine as a push to try and get a reaction out of them. Limming them bc lurk with 6 days left would be madness, we are not doing that

Yet you didn't put a vote on Penguin.


Going on later.

[Elements]

VOTE: Theta

[Aneninen]

I have used willing to die as a tool to clear myself as mafia particularly in hollow knight
it was a major turning point for me
but this is a much different situation and one where I'm just being mad at things which is my towntell i guess

I might have missed the "turning point", but the last sentence is what the fork?! Explaining self-towntells is something I usually auto-FoS, but you haven't seemed "mad" so far. (or at least, you're very far from what "mad" used to be 5 years ago.)

is bird referring to penguin or pigeon?

That was me. Alisae's wanted to have me investigated for ages, but considering that I'm Miller, it's pretty much bullshirt.

[Gimli]

okay

[Elements]

So I've gone through Theta's ISO and catagorised it in the following way:

Setup Spec - 14/53 ~ 30%

Spoiler:

154, 158, 159, 324, 337, 344, 358, 360, 1008, 1388, 1404. 1413, 1421, 1426

Not saying anything - 21/53 ~40%

Spoiler:

348, 546, 582, 595, 988. 1006, 1030, 1056, 1161. 1164, 1348, 1351, 1364, 1368, 1383, 1396, 1415, 1444, 1448, 1458, 1470

Reads - 16/53 ~30%

Spoiler:

355 - El vs Daisy tvt or nvt - probably look at elements later
526 - El probs town, but i'm gonna see what happens next
534 - Tanuki town? yes tanuki town
538 - ccs giving me scum vibes, but setup spec you're more likely town and i don't have good vibe reads
576 - see the two above
616 - this is town Fire, i should try find scum
932 - I have no read on Alisae, but I'd rather vote elements
942 - I now have scum vibes on elements
944 - idk how to read Gimli
954 - we can read tanuki later
964 - other people think Gimli is scummy
1159 - I have no read on merlyn
1344 - sure, seeing as everyone else is voting penguin
1379 - elements/gimli > penguin for flips
1381 - elements > gimli
1461 - idk what to think, ima ask someone else

not sure what to make of - 1/53 ~2%

Spoiler:

622

Of the 16 posts that pertain to some sort of read, half of them are either "I don't scum read said player, I also don't town read them" or something along those lines. Most of them are saying she'd wait to see what other people think before coming to a read. There isn't an original read anywhere in theta's ISO

[camelCasedSnivy]

this is someone you guys want to wagon? really?

[Gimli]

@El: what do you make of theta's claim, though? doesn't it seem a bit too convoluted or complicated to come from scum super early in the game? not just being a miller but having a role that makes her believe there are non-millers who are town (like thaumaturge).

though I see the scumcase against theta, I feel like trying to parse her based off posting alone to be incredibly difficulty given how far apart we are in terms of mafia thinking.

[Gimli]

I have an alternative

VOTE: mariar

[camelCasedSnivy]

who is that

[Elements]

@El: what do you make of theta's claim, though? doesn't it seem a bit too convoluted or complicated to come from scum super early in the game? not just being a miller but having a role that makes her believe there are non-millers who are town (like thaumaturge).

desperate seems like an easy claim for a mafia to make if they have knowledge there are multiple millers, that way they have an excuse for not doing anything
VOTE: mariar