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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:40 pm

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Pg 29 and 30 and 31, Alisae, Devil, Tanuki, and Maria are actively attempting to solve this game. I feel towny vibes.

As per the content: I’ve never played with HPE, just crossed paths here and there, so I can’t meta read it. I don’t know if it’s posts should be weirder or not. But from my standpoint they never pinged me. I (like basically everyone maybe?) am giving Snivy townpoints for the first miller claim. If I entertain that scum could have been told beforehand that there are so many millers the point total gets smaller. I feel comfortable looking elsewhere than Snivy for now, however.

I also feel towny vibes from 2HD. The vote flipping, I’ve been thinking about it for a bit now and it feels towny to me bc I think scum would be more calculating, and less likely to want to finger more folks than they have to.

Speaking of, Alianna is radiating the townvibes that she always does as she is always town. I don’t think she broke the streak in this game. Examples; , , even

- re: VIP: there’s a frustration in here that I could see as being town. I also like that they asked about why Elements was townreading them, I think scum more often take the crumb and don’t want to draw attention to it

- but scum have to know that there’s not likely to be a push resulting in a lim this fast, right? If we were closer to deadline and there was a chance this could lock in a lim I’d see it as scummy, this early on I’m inclined to view it as towny

- cracks me up cuz I’m pretty sure the other head of the hydra coined the nickname

Oopsie has townie solving: , , ,
I also notice that Oopsie is genuinely trying to engage with Elements despite sr’ing them, and elements is ignoring her

VIP, I don’t understand the reasoning here. What posts did she make specifically that make you SR her?

and - Okay I had to laugh at this- I expect cognitive dissonance from a hydra but this is an extreme case I think and I’m enjoying it a lot

- VIP, do you think Alisae and Gimli are both scum bussing?

- I like that gamma is looking for reasoning for the alisae wagon instead of just jumping on

- this is a good point. Gimli was very very focused on making Alisae play, but she’s been playing since pg 29 and there’s no evidence of processing that or saying why it WOULDN’T change his read

, , , I don’t love this series by elements. I think town would have just stuck with the flippant answer, the coming back in and changing it to a serious one makes me think they were nervous to stick with it

, well it’s an incredibly confident move to say ‘don’t read the person I’m telling you to vote for, read the two short posts by ME and that should be enough for your vote’. I don’t know if I love the move but I don’t associate that kind of confidence with scum


What I noticed in my catchup is that I have a lot more townreads that scumreads. My next step will be to try and ISO folks who didn’t really ping my radar. But I’m good with an elements vote. VOTE: Elements
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:43 pm

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it has nothing to do with u its just in line with what i want
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:45 pm

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In post 1157, Tanuki the Bold wrote: Ohhhh I got one baby

Merlyn is scum lol

I noticed before anyone else and I'm not even trying! Get with it!!
In post 1158, Tanuki the Bold wrote: VOTE: merlyn
In post 1160, Tanuki the Bold wrote: She solves as town and posts absolutely nothing as scum
In post 1162, Tanuki the Bold wrote: If I just say "she's not solving or trying to solve" I stead does that sound better
This is a fair thing for both sides of the hydra to say, I've lurked as scum in a game with each of them and with Ceph played harder as town. But (I think) I have 4 completed scum games on this site and in the other two I play a lot. I can link if anyone wants. My activity or lack thereof is always related to real life or in the case of Giratina, complete terror at replacing into a game with 40K posts.
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:46 pm

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In post 1193, Gimli wrote: I need people supporting me if I'm gonna lead and control, but I'm not being listened to and no one likes my leans and my reasons, there's not much I can do here lol
that's understandable but then you should try to work together with the others, not just throw shade around in all directions. like what i would expect town!you to do if you felt everybody had opposite reads than you is to start questioning people's reads and discussing the reads and try to get their pov while also trying to get them to see your pov. which you haven't been doing at all.
In post 1193, Gimli wrote: I think (elements, the stage, alisae) contain a good portion of the scum team. alisae's posting improved A_LITTLE_BIT but that's from absolute scumbutt to something alisae can def post as scum.
this is a good example of it, you are calling alisae scum but like there's no willingness to ask why is everyone else townreading her and either be convinced by them or convince them.
In post 1193, Gimli wrote: elly is doing what elly does as scum, notice they started an argument with me asking why I scumread them and disappeared from the thread again once I asked them anything. that's not the level of play elements puts forward when they're town.
that is a fair point and i could see elements being either town on scum. can you sell me on them being scum? give an actual example from their town v their scum meta?
In post 1193, Gimli wrote: the stage is pure hedge, afraid to commit to stances
i didn't feel that
In post 1193, Gimli wrote: just like gamma, I guess, but I've scumread gamma a lot before when she was town so I'm not as confident.
i did feel that
In post 1193, Gimli wrote: tanuki, camel, oopsie, 2x dragon, devil, are all in my town pile
okay that's not a bad town pile.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:48 pm

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In post 1199, Gimli wrote: @dragon: wait who are you?
i can't believe you missed my super obvious hints gimli

have a dig at my iso, especially where i mention you.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:51 pm

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In post 1199, Gimli wrote: @ali you see that's not the kind of attitude I expect from you when you're town. I expect you to either start townreading me or keep scumreading me and not form a counterwagon with the person I'm pushing. you have to be thinking associatives, AT SOME LEVEL, and if you're really scumreading me then maybe going after elements who's going after me doesn't sit right with town!you?
i do get this take
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:51 pm

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UNVOTE: gimli

temporarily
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:52 pm

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In post 1202, Merlyn wrote:
In post 1157, Tanuki the Bold wrote: Ohhhh I got one baby

Merlyn is scum lol

I noticed before anyone else and I'm not even trying! Get with it!!
In post 1158, Tanuki the Bold wrote: VOTE: merlyn
In post 1160, Tanuki the Bold wrote: She solves as town and posts absolutely nothing as scum
In post 1162, Tanuki the Bold wrote: If I just say "she's not solving or trying to solve" I stead does that sound better
This is a fair thing for both sides of the hydra to say, I've lurked as scum in a game with each of them and with Ceph played harder as town. But (I think) I have 4 completed scum games on this site and in the other two I play a lot. I can link if anyone wants. My activity or lack thereof is always related to real life or in the case of Giratina, complete terror at replacing into a game with 40K posts.
Nope, five scum games. Three of them as lurky lol
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:53 pm

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In post 1206, Two Headed Dragon wrote: UNVOTE: gimli

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Hero, do you think gimli and Alisae are tvt?
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:53 pm

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@dragon: I was guessing right (I think) until you started admonishing me for being on BAD WAGONS lmao I guess that felt out of character

I'm on good wagons

the thing about elements is that they're oozing townyness when they're town. I can go to one of their towngames that I played with them, or you can just check HMS mutiny yourself when they were scum and notice how the joker is catching them, and the reasoning behind it. do you remember? he was saying elements had a great amount of reads and stances when they were town, and in HMS game they didn't, couldn't come up with natural reads, and that was the case absolutely throughout that game. its feeling more and more like this is the case here.
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:57 pm

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i'm not reading hms mutiny, it's too much effort
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:58 pm

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In post 1209, Gimli wrote: do you remember?
okay you definitely guessed my identity wrong

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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:00 pm

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sorry :(

okay let me do the legwork of proving elly is in their scum meta
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:13 pm

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In post 1212, Gimli wrote: okay let me do the legwork of proving elly is in their scum meta
i'll be patient
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:14 pm

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this took forever to find, other than all the trauma associated with skimming through that thread. but anyway here is the case for elly scum in that game, in general. the buzzwords are 'burden of profficiency', meaning elly was playing several levels below what's expected from them as town.

I have this very same experience with town!elements, in a now kinda old game that they absolutely became lock clear very early d1 and never dropped even a little bit from my reads.
In post 1066, Killing Joke wrote:
In post 1061, ActionDan wrote:If Elements is scum then that does not bode well for the flip for either of these wagons
Your statement isn't true because Elements switched her vote in for a reason. It's scum's job to trick Town into throwing. That's what she's doing: trying to trick Town into Town throwing. It's level 1 wifom.


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Elements was one of Town's sharpest solvers in my scum game I played against town!Elements. She had a full readslist in her second post which she updated throughout D1. She aggressively pushed one of my buddies D1 and made sure they died D2, then did VCA and basically proved that I was their partner on D3. There really is no comparison to her play here and even without meta she's easily findable as scum here IMHO. I guess I can see how it would be confusing a little bit if you've never played with her before and are taking her fake dumb tells at face value.

I'll do a more in depth comparison on her divergent town-scum meta D2.

This is the game I played with her fyi:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=89984&p=13562279#p13562279

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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:16 pm

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I apologise for quoting something that's so heavily misgendering elements but I haven't had my coffee yet and didn't notice it
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:33 pm

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well their pronouns page states they are okay with "she/her"

maybe it's outdated though.
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:35 pm

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anyhow, i'll respond to the scumcase later, i have things i need to do now
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:41 pm

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In post 1191, Gimli wrote: I feel like we barely talked to each other this time
its only early day one...................
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:42 pm

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we can get cutthroat later
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:45 pm

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it's not rly early anymore
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:45 pm

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sure you could say early as in the game just started a couple of days ago but we're nearing 50 pages and I would say a good amount has happened. It should be easy to get reads on the majority of the players
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:09 pm

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In post 1215, Gimli wrote: I apologise for quoting something that's so heavily misgendering elements but I haven't had my coffee yet and didn't notice it
In post 1216, Two Headed Dragon wrote: well their pronouns page states they are okay with "she/her"

maybe it's outdated though.
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:10 pm

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In post 1212, Gimli wrote: sorry :(

okay let me do the legwork of proving elly is in their scum meta
I don't think you needed to prove it, I've already said I am
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:13 pm

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In post 1071, Gimli wrote: you feel like HMS and not like doctors game
I thought I was more antagonistic in HMS, but that might just have been with Joker.
I agree I'm nothing like the doctors game, but going off that metric I don't think you are either? Lots of people towntold early that game.
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