Mind Screw Mafia 3 (OVER)

[Tarhalindur]

Point of Order!

"Which came first, the phoenix or the flame?"

People should REALLY read the Mind Screw II ruleset again. It would explain certain vote count oddities.

EDIT: Tarhalindur has received Rules Infractions for posts 36, 40, 43, 45, and 115. The vote counts corresponding to these posts have been repaired. - Tar

The Eighth Vote Count (aka the "As Long As I'm Here..." Vote Count)

1) forbiddanlight (2) - veerus, Empking
2) Context (0)
3) DrippingGoofball (0)
4) veerus (0)
5) malthusis (0)
6) Kairyuu (0)
7) ZazieR (0)
8) DragonsofSummer (0)
9) dahill1 (0)
10) TehVariable (0)
11) pacman281292 (0)
12) qwints (2) - Context, Caboose
13) Caboose (4) - TehVariable, The Central Scrutinizer, ZazieR, farside22
14) farside22 (0)
15) BlakAdder (0)
16) ShadowGirl (0)
17) The Central Scrutinizer (1) - Machiavellian-Mafia
18) XSilentSinX (0)
19) Empking (7) - Vi, Stef, Xylthixlm, Tarhalindur, Pesco47, StrangerCoug, Electra
20) populartajo (0)
21) Pesco47 (0)
22) Stef (0)
23) Cephrir (0)
24) Xylthixlm (0)
25) StrangerCoug (0)
26) Electra (0)
27) Vi (0)
28) Machiavellian-Mafia (0)
29) Aries777777 (0)
Tarhalindur (4) - forbiddanlight, populartajo, Kairyuu

Not Voting (12): DrippingGoofball, malthusis, DragonsofSummer, dahill1, pacman281292, qwints, BlakAdder, ShadowGirl, XSilentSinX, Cephrir, Aries777777

Votes required to lynch:

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FoS Count:

1) forbiddanlight (0)
2) Context (0)
3) DrippingGoofball (0)
4) veerus (0)
5) malthusis (0)
6) Kairyuu (0)
7) ZazieR (0)
8) DragonsofSummer (0)
9) dahill1 (0)
10) TehVariable (0)
11) pacman281292 (0)
12) qwints (0)
13) Caboose (1) - StrangerCoug
14) farside22 (0)
15) BlakAdder (1) - Caboose
16) ShadowGirl (0)
17) The Central Scrutinizer (0)
18) XSilentSinX (0)
19) Empking (1) - dahill1
20) populartajo (1) - Stef
21) Pesco47 (0)
22) Stef (1) - Tarhalindur
23) Cephrir (0)
24) Xylthixlm (0)
25) StrangerCoug (0)
26) Electra (0)
27) Vi (1) - ZazieR
28) Machiavellian-Mafia (0)
29) Aries777777 (0)
Tarhalindur (7) - forbiddanlight, populartajo, Electra, Kairyuu, Xylthixlm, BlakAdder, Pesco47
I am God (1)
All the people that posted before page 5, for making five pages of uselessness (1) - Empking
Empking and Xtylt (1) - farside22
Tar, Qwints, Monkeys that wear hats, Zeratul, Donut Holes, and forbiddenlight (1) - Context

Not FoS'ing (16): DrippingGoofball, veerus, malthusis, DragonsofSummer, TehVariable, pacman281292, qwints, ShadowGirl, The Central Scrutinizer, XSilentSinX, Cephrir, Electra, Vi, Machiavellian-Mafia, Aries777777

Current Deadline:

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First Mod Deadline Review:

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End Point of Order!

[Stef]

Mod: I thought i FoS-ed Tajo.

NOT AGAIN. -

Hans

Tar

[farside22]

Ugh I hate this indiviual crap.

FOS: Xylthixlm
FOS: Empking

Unfos: Empking and Xtylt

[farside22]

hey I voted caboose

unvote:
vote: caboose

just in case i missed something.

[Tarhalindur]

Point of Order!

"The firemen are coming! They've come to burn the books!"

I repeat, the Mind Screw II rule set would be informative. - Tar

The Ninth Vote Count (aka the "One Man, One FoS, Again?" Vote Count)

1) forbiddanlight (2) - veerus, Empking
2) Context (0)
3) DrippingGoofball (0)
4) veerus (0)
5) malthusis (0)
6) Kairyuu (0)
7) ZazieR (0)
8) DragonsofSummer (0)
9) dahill1 (0)
10) TehVariable (0)
11) pacman281292 (0)
12) qwints (2) - Context, Caboose
13) Caboose (4) - TehVariable, The Central Scrutinizer, ZazieR, farside22
14) farside22 (0)
15) BlakAdder (0)
16) ShadowGirl (0)
17) The Central Scrutinizer (1) - Machiavellian-Mafia
18) XSilentSinX (0)
19) Empking (7) - Vi, Stef, Xylthixlm, Tarhalindur, Pesco47, StrangerCoug, Electra
20) populartajo (0)
21) Pesco47 (0)
22) Stef (0)
23) Cephrir (0)
24) Xylthixlm (0)
25) StrangerCoug (0)
26) Electra (0)
27) Vi (0)
28) Machiavellian-Mafia (0)
29) Aries777777 (0)
Tarhalindur (4) - forbiddanlight, populartajo, Kairyuu

Not Voting (12): DrippingGoofball, malthusis, DragonsofSummer, dahill1, pacman281292, qwints, BlakAdder, ShadowGirl, XSilentSinX, Cephrir, Aries777777

Votes required to lynch:

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FoS Count:

1) forbiddanlight (0)
2) Context (0)
3) DrippingGoofball (0)
4) veerus (0)
5) malthusis (0)
6) Kairyuu (0)
7) ZazieR (0)
8) DragonsofSummer (0)
9) dahill1 (0)
10) TehVariable (0)
11) pacman281292 (0)
12) qwints (0)
13) Caboose (1) - StrangerCoug
14) farside22 (0)
15) BlakAdder (1) - Caboose
16) ShadowGirl (0)
17) The Central Scrutinizer (0)
18) XSilentSinX (0)
19) Empking (1) - dahill1
20) populartajo (1) - Stef
21) Pesco47 (0)
22) Stef (1) - Tarhalindur
23) Cephrir (0)
24) Xylthixlm (0)
25) StrangerCoug (0)
26) Electra (0)
27) Vi (1) - ZazieR
28) Machiavellian-Mafia (0)
29) Aries777777 (0)
Tarhalindur (7) - forbiddanlight, populartajo, Electra, Kairyuu, Xylthixlm, BlakAdder, Pesco47
I am God (1)
All the people that posted before page 5, for making five pages of uselessness (1) - Empking

Not FoS'ing (18): Context, DrippingGoofball, veerus, malthusis, DragonsofSummer, TehVariable, pacman281292, qwints, farside22, ShadowGirl, The Central Scrutinizer, XSilentSinX, Cephrir, Electra, Vi, Machiavellian-Mafia, Aries777777

Current Deadline:

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First Mod Deadline Review:

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End Point of Order!

[Aries777777]

vote:stef

empking is, from my understanding being victimized, plus his role is mentioned in my pm, as being a good person, i vote for stef simply through there severe dis like of empking, for no real reason

[Stef]

How exactly is he mentioned in your PM?

[Pesco47]

Im thinking. Empkigscum claiming survivor is retarded as scum. Then, he's prob the role he's claiming.
Lynching survivor D1 is retarded. We lynch survivor if we are close to Lylo.
Id rather lynch scum today, right?

Lynching survivor close to LyLo is retarded.

Fos Poptaco

[qwints]

OK. So the people who thought I was faking are correct - I was trying to activate my ultimate.

Here are my current impressions of the game:
1) A Tar lynch would almost certainly have some interesting effects. I don't think we have any way to know whether they would hurt the town or help the town. Thus I don't like caboose's opposition to it.

2) My instinct is to believe Empking's claim. Acting a little bit scummy to gain your ultimate makes sense to me. He's probably not worth lynching yet, but I would not act to stop him being killed.

3) This game will become much, much screwier before it is done.

vote: caboose

FOS: Tarhalindur

[Aries777777]

How exactly is he mentioned in your PM?

i am told he his character (i cant remember how to spell it ) is a person i can talk to out side of the game chat, and him only, i doubt the host would allow a townie to talk with a mafia person in confidence

[populartajo]

Im thinking. Empkigscum claiming survivor is retarded as scum. Then, he's prob the role he's claiming.
Lynching survivor D1 is retarded. We lynch survivor if we are close to Lylo.
Id rather lynch scum today, right?

Lynching survivor close to LyLo is retarded.

Fos Poptaco

I was thinking in that too.
I think the right answer is that lynching survivor close to Lylo and close to D1 is retarded.
Seems a good vig target or a healthy D-3, D-4 lynch.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

vote:stef

empking is, from my understanding being victimized, plus his role is mentioned in my pm, as being a good person, i vote for stef simply through there severe dis like of empking, for no real reason

This looks like a mason soft-claim to me. Given this interpretation, I do not think Empking should be the lynch right now.

Caboose looks even worse in light of qwint's most recent post, so:

Unvote: The Central Scrutinizer
Vote: Caboose

[populartajo]

How exactly is he mentioned in your PM?

i am told he his character (i cant remember how to spell it ) is a person i can talk to out side of the game chat, and him only, i doubt the host would allow a townie to talk with a mafia person in confidence

Experience in mafia games , please.

[Aries777777]

i will

unvote: stef

for now as they did not react in a scummy way to my vote, and they were only hard on empking on one post after some reading, the shanki person he claims to be was the person in my pm that im ment to be able to talk to anyway, though im not familiar who that person is in present life

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Sarnath'd. Aries now really does claim mason with Empking.

@Aries: mafia masons are not that uncommon, so you shouldn't assume empking is automatically town if you have no confirmation from the mod.

[Aries777777]

How exactly is he mentioned in your PM?

i am told he his character (i cant remember how to spell it ) is a person i can talk to out side of the game chat, and him only, i doubt the host would allow a townie to talk with a mafia person in confidence

Experience in mafia games , please.

what? sorry what do you want?

[Pesco47]

How exactly is he mentioned in your PM?

i am told he his character (i cant remember how to spell it ) is a person i can talk to out side of the game chat, and him only, i doubt the host would allow a townie to talk with a mafia person in confidence

Things don't add up on this end. Especially if we're taking it that Empking is survivor.

[dahill1]

I know you've already unvoted.. but:

actually that last post just made me realize that i want a Tar lynch more than a caboose one

unvote vote tar

care to explain why?

taste of your own medicine :p

i believe these were my main points:

this is because of Tar's additional WC which seems uncommon for town, his avoidance of my questions, hiding his votes for no reason (incredibly easy way to "accidentally" hammer btw since there are so many hidden votes going around), and asking for an unwarranted character claim

Vote:Quints

Are you allowed to respond when someone votes you depending on what they say. If so, please respond to bananas.

Fos:Quints

Are you allowed to respond when someone FOSes you depending on what they say. If so, please respond to apples.

Bugger...

That's me.

>>

what do you mean by this?

:words:

Vote: Caboose

what makes you so sure that scum can't have PRs?

Dahill, what do you think of Xyl voting someone as he has a powerrole which could be useless later on?

unless i'm wrong, neither qwints nor xyl has claimed a power role so i'm a little confused by this question.

Claim; Survivor

Vote: FL

Vote: Caboose

seriously this is why i voted you first. i knew would do something so fucking stupid like this.. *sigh*
btw, i say you full claim

[I don't think Pop wants me to claim.

FoS: All the people that posted before page 5, for making five pages of uselessness

so you won't because populartajo doesn't want you to? and explain why you think the first 5 pages are uselessness.

Survivor claim is utterly stupid and I am perfectly willing to lynch Empking for it.

agreein' wit dis

We're going to lynch a claimed survivor D1? Really?

is this sarcastic? think about this question carefully..

Id rather lynch scum today, right?

how do you know he's not scum

vote:stef

empking is, from my understanding being victimized, plus his role is mentioned in my pm, as being a good person, i vote for stef simply through there severe dis like of empking, for no real reason

you should probably elaborate on this because i reallllly want to lynch empking right now

OK. So the people who thought I was faking are correct - I was trying to activate my ultimate.

....

How exactly is he mentioned in your PM?

i am told he his character (i cant remember how to spell it ) is a person i can talk to out side of the game chat, and him only, i doubt the host would allow a townie to talk with a mafia person in confidence

does it say in your role pm that he is confirmed town?

Things don't add up on this end. Especially if we're taking it that Empking is survivor.

QFT

TO END:

Vote Empking

for claiming survivor d1 with NO REASON AT ALL and then apparently is a mason with someone (which he conviently left out)

@all the people voting for caboose: i can understand your vote for him, but any reason you chose him over the other people voting for qwints because of his PR?

FoS: qwints

for faking the PR

argh this game takes a lot out of me i'll have to reread again

[Pesco47]

vote:stef

empking is, from my understanding being victimized, plus his role is mentioned in my pm, as being a good person, i vote for stef simply through there severe dis like of empking, for no real reason

Timestamp 10:15pm

unvote: stef for now as they did not react in a scummy way to my vote, and they were only hard on empking on one post after some reading, the shanki person he claims to be was the person in my pm that im ment to be able to talk to anyway, though im not familiar who that person is in present life

Timestamp 10:39pm

You realistically expected a response within 25 minutes RL...

[Aries777777]

vote:stef

empking is, from my understanding being victimized, plus his role is mentioned in my pm, as being a good person, i vote for stef simply through there severe dis like of empking, for no real reason

Timestamp 10:15pm

unvote: stef for now as they did not react in a scummy way to my vote, and they were only hard on empking on one post after some reading, the shanki person he claims to be was the person in my pm that im ment to be able to talk to anyway, though im not familiar who that person is in present life

Timestamp 10:39pm

You realistically expected a response within 25 minutes RL...

no i didnt, but i happened to get one

also it didnt specify he was town in my pm, so i guess he could be bad, though i would have thought he was townie

[dahill1]

empking are you a mason with aries?
and if so, why didn't you tell us you were a mason?

[qwints]

How exactly is he mentioned in your PM?

This response is sufficient to prove he's not scum!?

[Aries777777]

i re read my role pm, and it specifics that i can only speak outside of the thread with him if i find out who he is, however he admitted he was shanki earlier, so its more i could chat outside with him if i wanted, but i cant presently, im not sure if its known as a mason connection, as in theory i have to choose him to speak to him

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

@all the people voting for caboose: i can understand your vote for him, but any reason you chose him over the other people voting for qwints because of his PR?

Caboose is voting qwints out of annoyance. The other person I see who had voted for qwints was xyl, who actually used real reasons to back up his vote.

[dahill1]

i re read my role pm, and it specifics that i can only speak outside of the thread with him if i find out who he is, however he admitted he was shanki earlier, so its more i could chat outside with him if i wanted, but i cant presently, im not sure if its known as a mason connection, as in theory i have to choose him to speak to him

first off who is shanki? second you can talk at all times with him?