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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:29 pm

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unvote
as I like the claim.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:33 pm

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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:34 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:I think we've gotten the mod to "speak" quite a bit. I'm done pressuring him, so
unvote: Tarhalindur, un-FoS: Tarhalindur,
and
vote: Caboose
for voting qwints for his post restriction.
A) I'm not voting qwints
B) Why is doing so scummy?

FoS: SC

For voting for me for something that's not a scumtell
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:41 pm

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I know you've already unvoted.. but:
dahill1 wrote:actually that last post just made me realize that i want a Tar lynch more than a caboose one

unvote vote tar
dahill1 wrote:care to explain why?
taste of your own medicine :p
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:44 pm

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You were at one point, but you just said you're tempted to revote him. It is scummy to vote somebody on something that most likely cannot be helped. If qwints really does have a restriction that makes him post like that, than it is not voteworthy. I'm a gambling man, but I'm not gambling on voting somebody who, given that it's Mind Screw, simply might have the misfortune to be unable to communicate.

And if you're trying to use standard scumtells here, I can pretty safely say you're in the wrong game.

Then again, qwints could be the one accessing the Tarhalindur account, but that's speculating.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:47 pm

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Vote:Quints


Are you allowed to respond when someone votes you depending on what they say. If so, please respond to bananas.

Fos:Quints


Are you allowed to respond when someone FOSes you depending on what they say. If so, please respond to apples.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:48 pm

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Kinetic wrote:
Vote:Quints


Are you allowed to respond when someone votes you depending on what they say. If so, please respond to bananas.

Fos:Quints


Are you allowed to respond when someone FOSes you depending on what they say. If so, please respond to apples.
Bugger...

That's me.

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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:52 pm

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Ok, for FL and for whoever else is keeping track of mod quotes and vote counts.. GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND.

Here are the sources for the two earlier quotes I looked up:
'Business!' cried the Ghost, wringing its hands again. "Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!"
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If someone is keeping track of this stuff (FL, you seem to have a lot of interest in this, so I nominate you), use google and let us know if you detect a pattern. To me, this seems highly random. Even if it is a breadcrumb to other roles in the game, we won't know it until later on, so there's no reason to make a lot of noise about it now.

Finally, I'm more inclined to believe that Tar is
pretending
that someone is emulating him ala MS2 and there's no real emulation happening. His wording and intricate knowledge of the theme imply that it really can't be anyone else but Tar or a specifically chosen person (Natirasha comes to mind).
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:55 pm

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Logon: Why is doing so scummy?

Help not available.

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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:57 pm

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veerus wrote:Ok, for FL and for whoever else is keeping track of mod quotes and vote counts.. GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND.

Here are the sources for the two earlier quotes I looked up:
'Business!' cried the Ghost, wringing its hands again. "Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!"
A Christmas Carol by Charles John Huffam Dickens

Stay thy hand, Judicator. The stewards of Tassadar shall not fall while the Dark Templar live. Call off your guards, and stand aside, and you may yet live to see another moonrise.
Starcraft 2


If someone is keeping track of this stuff (FL, you seem to have a lot of interest in this, so I nominate you), use google and let us know if you detect a pattern. To me, this seems highly random. Even if it is a breadcrumb to other roles in the game, we won't know it until later on, so there's no reason to make a lot of noise about it now.

Finally, I'm more inclined to believe that Tar is
pretending
that someone is emulating him ala MS2 and there's no real emulation happening. His wording and intricate knowledge of the theme imply that it really can't be anyone else but Tar or a specifically chosen person (Natirasha comes to mind).
The "Hallowed are the Ori" quote is from Stargate's final season. They were the big-bad.

The Ori were basically ascended beings from another universe that were trying to invade the universe that Earth inhabits.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:08 pm

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Yeah, and the other quote from the opening "speech" that I was able to google was a British nursery rhyme or something. Point is.. they're pretty random... or at least they seem that way until we are able to gather more evidence.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:49 pm

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qwints wrote:Logon: Why is doing so scummy?

Help not available.

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I'm back to

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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:51 pm

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Go ahead and play by the book, Caboose. I don't think it'll win us the game, though.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:02 pm

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Ok. Quints is irritating me, but if it's a post restriction then it says nothing about him. I dislike policy lynches as a general rule.

@DGB:
We might still need to lynch "Tar" at some point but it would be wise to lay off.
Why wait if it has potential for information?

@caboose:
Yeah, the Tar bandwagon was a joke. Why do we need to waste our D1 lynch on it?

I for one am serious. I see it as a way to possibly gain information. Information is good.
FL has been trying to get the mod lynched for real, which I find to be pretty scummy, considering that it will probably waste the D1 lynch.
Really? Because if I remember correctly, if the mod were to be lynched in Mind Screw II then the rules would be revealed due to the fact that the mod was chairman mao. Also, in Mind Screw I, if the mod was lynched the setup was entirely revealed to the players. Fully revealed setup + massclaim = insta win for town.

@Shadowgirl: Why unvote when the wagon has gone nowhere? The risk benefit here tells us that wagoning to a lynch has a chance to give us important information early on.

Also, hiya. Good to see you again.

Holy Crap!! I go post in my other games and we get 3 pages?!?! Wow.

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2. I completely agree with FL
3. The person posting through tar is likely scum imo
4. Caboose needs to learn what mindscrew means.
5. mod lynch = good from past sources ... utilitarian analysis puts it as the best play for the day, because if it is a success then we get the information sooner, and if it is a failure then we lose less time and have less game to deter us from trying it. I guarentee that if it is not done today then the wagon will not gain any steam again.
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:05 pm

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While doing my read..
"Hallowed are the Ori."
Star Trek Deep Space 9
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:09 pm

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Stef wrote:While doing my read..
"Hallowed are the Ori."
Star Trek Deep Space 9
Wrong.

Unvote,UnFos

Vote:Stef

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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:24 pm

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Right! Stargate SG-1. Confused it with the Pah-wraith in DS9.

Did that actually warrant a vote Context?
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:41 pm

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Stef wrote:Right! Stargate SG-1. Confused it with the Pah-wraith in DS9.

Did that actually warrant a vote Context?
FoS Context
Absolutely. Mixing up such a good show with such a crap show is by far the scummiest thing so far in this thread.

Plus I'm still testing some things out. You're just a convenient guinea pig.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:49 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:Go ahead and play by the book, Caboose. I don't think it'll win us the game, though.
Indeed. I have never encountered a severe post restriction on a player that was not town-aligned. I once played a game in which I had an extraordinarily restrictive power role. It may be the proper play to remove players who cannot contribute, but I cannot comply. I wish to determine if we can discover a pattern. If anything, I would prefer to kill all of those without post restrictions.

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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:01 pm

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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:Go ahead and play by the book, Caboose. I don't think it'll win us the game, though.
Indeed. I have never encountered a severe post restriction on a player that was not town-aligned. I once played a game in which I had an extraordinarily restrictive power role. It may be the proper play to remove players who cannot contribute, but I cannot comply. I wish to determine if we can discover a pattern. If anything, I would prefer to kill all of those without post restrictions.

Vote: Caboose
You are ignoring the possibility of a faked post restriction. Why?
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:04 am

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Mod, about the vote counts. Are the numbers at Not voting and at Not FoS'ing in each vote count correct?


Not Voting, yes. Not FoS'ing... should be, I'll double-check ASAP. - Tar


It also seems that there are two votes and two FoS'es extra in each VC.

Player Tarh, why did you change your vote to Caboose (or did you vote yourself?) and why do you unvote in one of your posts, while you didn't do that regarding your vote change?

Xyl, is not being useful the only reason why you are voting Qwints? Besides, it could be that his PR changes with the days. However, I don't like it how you go after Qwints.
Qwints, is there perhaps any way to tell us about your PR?

Player Tarh, about this:
Tarh wrote:Also, there is an ability out there that is presumably from scum
that is really annoying me.
How do you know about this? Also, why do you assume that it's from scum?

Caboose, why do you think Tarh-player is town. If you don't have any reason to assume that he's scum, then he would actually be neutral. However, you think he's town. Why is that?

Tarh-player, why do you want other FMP! characters to claim?

Caboose, you assume a lot in post 86.

Qwints, in post 89 (the same for post 111), how come you were able to quote something that wasn't said?

Gossiping about me, huh :roll:
Vi wrote:I agree that leaving him alive is probably the best thing that can be done right now.
Why?

I don't like how BA jumped in.

Caboose, why does it make sense? (see post 101)

Tarh-player, which did you FoS in post 115? Can the player who FoS'ed the other confirm this in this game?
Why did you claim? Did you also claim survivor?

Dahill, what do you think of Xyl voting someone as he has a powerrole which could be useless later on?

Xyl, do you think that Qwints's PR is faked?

Thoughts so far:
FoS Vi
, for calling me a Japanese fangirl ;)
Vote Caboose
For his assumptions in post 82 and his vote against someone for having a PR.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:31 am

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Claim; Survivor

Vote: FL

Vote: Caboose
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:48 am

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Kai wrote:@Shadowgirl: Why unvote when the wagon has gone nowhere? The risk benefit here tells us that wagoning to a lynch has a chance to give us important information early on.

Also, hiya. Good to see you again.
Hi, good to see you as well! :]

I'm just not quite certain if that... certain 'PR' is indicative of their alignment. As well, I don't want a lynch within the first five or so pages when some people haven't even posted yet.

@Emp:
Why the claim?

Can you elaborate on your win conditions, if possible?
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:20 am

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I think its the best time to claim.

Its just regular survivor win conditions.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:44 am

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ZazieR 145 wrote:Why
[do I think notTarhalindur should be kept alive]
?
The role that we have been presented with seems plausible enough. In a game like this, I'm not willing to take anyone for granted.
ZazieR 145 wrote:FoS Vi, for calling me a Japanese fangirl ;)
Well when you word it like that, a DUTCH fangirl seems more close to the truth.
That and you never answered an earlier question re: what your avatar is from, so what am I supposed to guess?

@Empking: You are not Yosarian2, and if your claim is accurate, you are not pro-Town. Claiming Survivor unnecessarily is the WORST thing you can do, and I don't trust it.
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