Mini 702--Serum & Steel(The rust has settled/Game Over)

[Vi]

We do need the rest of the pms in your next post people, it's worrying that the only people that have claimed so far are the most town-looking.

I concur; the ones that haven't claimed so far are the ones that post the least inthread.

--Illumina
--TonyMontana
--geraintm

[Illumina]

Are we sure this massclaim helped town more than scum? Now they have their choice of who to target... I'm not sure revealing my role just now is the best play.

[Porkens]

We are sure it will help the town more than scum.

Massclaim.

[ortolan]

Are we sure this massclaim helped town more than scum? Now they have their choice of who to target... I'm not sure revealing my role just now is the best play.

I disagree, please claim immediately lest you jeopardise my perceptions of your towniness (come on, even CF Riot has claimed and he was very firmly against doing so on previous days). Same goes for TM and geraintm. I really want to post my thoughts on the scummiest but I'm not doing this until we get some claims.

[Illumina]

Let's just say my role is more vulnerable than I thought, due to recent events. I really think it would hurt the town to reveal my role now.

[ortolan]

Doesn't matter imo, someone's gonna get night-killed anyway and there's no way I'd vote to give you the serum to activate your ability without you claiming anyway.

But Porkens and CF Riot should comment on this also

[Porkens]

Well, lets hear from TM and Germ first then, I'm fine with that.

[CF Riot]

Only because Ill seems the most townish of the three, I'll say she can go last. If it seems apparent that one or both of TM and Geraintm are scum, then maybe we'll let her by without claiming. However, if things get cloudy, then you may have to claim anyways.

Ill, consider this. With 4 of the remaining 7 players having already claimed, and you saying you think your role is too important to claim it, do you think you might have just made yourself as much a scum target as if you'd said what it did directly? By that I mean, do you think you're more of a target claiming than by saying "My role is too strong to claim,"?
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Vi, to answer a question you made a while back, SSK claimed Neurok Scryer, but it turned out that he was lying. He was a Vedalken Engineer.

[Illumina]

The less scum know, the better. I recall you making the same argument this game, CF.

I personally think TM is much more protown than Geraintm, so I'd like to see Geraintm claim first.

[Porkens]

Fine with me.

[TonyMontana]

In case anyone forgot, I was VLA all day.

Was about to quote my role, but if it's wished upon me to wait for geraint, i will...

[CF Riot]

It's not. I want you to claim right now.

[ortolan]

all this beating around the bush really seems quite scummy to me

[Vi]

Forgive me for not saying much recently, but between the three of you you've basically covered what's to say before I arrive at the topic each time something happens.
As it stands, we're five days to deadline, and the people we're waiting for are the ones who post the least. The time for acceptable stalling is up; all favors are off; start talking.

I would get some incentives going, but the downside to having a doublevote is that it puts everyone I vote for in quickhammer range (majority is 4). So, this is what I want to do.

Vote

x2

(Lynch): TonyMontana
Vote

x2

(Blinkmoth): Porkens
Vote

x2

(Mycosynth): Illumina

Neither bolded nor colored so it doesn't count. Porkens is quite simply the only person who hasn't received the serum and was willing to claim. If anyone thinks it would be worthwhile to serum someone else, I'm willing to listen; it'll give us something to talk about while we wait and wait <_<

@mod: Prod geraintm.

[ortolan]

I'm more than happy to serum Porkens but I'm waiting for these claims before putting in my voting choices

[CF Riot]

Wow, deadline is quick.

Vote: Tony Montana
Serum: Porkens
Synth: Geraintm

Anyone want to make some speculation about Gremwell being a "Death-Mask Duplicant, Town-Aligned Metal Body Double"? I hadn't thought about it until now but the whole body double thing might be linked to why he's dead. Something to consider while we wait on the scum to post.

Vi, why would you like to synth Illumina rather than Geraintm?
Illumina, who would you like to synth/lynch and why?

[Vi]

Anyone want to make some speculation about Gremwell being a "Death-Mask Duplicant, Town-Aligned Metal Body Double"? I hadn't thought about it until now but the whole body double thing might be linked to why he's dead. Something to consider while we wait on the scum to post.

No, not really. There's nothing concrete or confirmable we can gain from it.

Vi, why would you like to synth Illumina rather than geraintm?

I'm concluding from Illumina's vague description of her role that she is metal.
I'm also concluding that she is worth synthing in light of her refusal to claim.
Both of these place her ahead of someone who has not said anything at all IMO.

This can, of course, change in the near future based on what geraintm says/does. This would require Nati to prod geraintm, I believe...

[Porkens]

Hmmm, I wrote a post but it didn't seem to take.

Body Double, and his card, to me, looks like it means he could have taken a role from the graveyard. But since Ort wasn't a vig, I can't guess how he died.

I think it's pretty clear that anyone who reads this thread who hasn't done so yet, should make a full claim. That's still where we are at. The closer it gets to deadline, the happier I am just lynching a lurker at this point.

[Natirasha]

No one is in need of a prod at this time.

[geraintm]

Sorry for not posting sooner today
here is my role pm then

Welcome, geraintm.

You are are a Mycosynth Golem, Town-Aligned Metal Master of Mycosynth. You are the embodiment of Karn here on Mirrodin. He gave you specific instructions: stop Memnarch using the mycosynth. Now, Glissa Sunseeker has appeared to fight Memnarch, and they say the enemy of my enemy is my friend...
Abilities: You are metal. You cannot be killed in any way.
Win Condition: You win when you are the last faction remaining.

i hope that answers that question then.

[ortolan]

TonyMontana, you're next (imo I'd wait for him to claim before posting any comments)

[TonyMontana]

Welcome, TonyMontana.

You are a Moriok Scavenger, town-aligned graverobber.
Geth was told to send a few good men to the core of Mirrodin, and kill the elf Glissa. Well, you were one of those sent. And you failed. Now, you have joined up with the elf girl--your lord Geth forsook you, and his lord now wants you dead. It really was the only sensible option.
Abilities: You have no outstanding abilities.
Win Condition: You win when you are the last faction remaining.

[ortolan]

wow, good timing

in light of these claims I'd probably advocate Illumina claiming (it's now obvious the scum were given at least one safeclaim, as all but one player has claimed and there must be at least 3 scum. Opinions on Illumina claiming?

[ortolan]

I've just been doing a partial re-read: I have to say I'm not at all as sure of Illumina's alignment as others seem to be, I would definitely be in favour of him claiming (but let's go democracy!)

Secondly, CF Riot IIRC you said you got cop from the serum, but I never worked out who you actually investigated. Who was it?

[Porkens]

I want to see it.