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[Psyche]

Psyche gotta oppose both his buddies’ lims today, makes sense.

doesn't this sort of reasoning make TL's persistence about calling me scum a problem for your readslist

[furtiveglance]

(sorry I messed up the quotes in the previous one)

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[JacksonVirgo]

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No,

I think you're wolf

. I don't care about pressure, you already failed at responding what I was asking you when I was giving you the light of day to explain yourself. But even if I was doing this primarily to put pressure on you, why is backing out ever the solution?

TL is town

Agreed, it's incredibly clear to me

I've read all of page 17. I'm currently wishing that someone would ask JV about the apparent contradiction here but no one's asked yet.
And on that note I'm out for the night.

It’s only a contradiction if Town was not allowed to progress and change their reads. But we are allowed to, so it isn’t

Yeah, I agree Town are allowed to change their reads. Which is why I said "apparent" contradiction, there can be reasons why it's not an actual contradiction.

Anyway, I've now read up to page 25 and I haven't seen you explicitly say what made you change your mind between 310 and 368. Do you remember, and, if so, care to share?

Hey JV it seems like you're around so this seems like the ideal time to do some shameless self promotion and bump my question!

(sorry I messed up the quotes in the previous one)

Oh, I posted why like 2 pages after 368 but I'll restate it just cuz your avatar is cute.

The combination both them being concerned about appearances

but at the same time

told me they misrepresented me. If they were scum who was so concerned about appearances that they just shut down over pressure to not hurt their appeared charisma/standing, telling somebody you used a manipulation tactic is crazy. They were also incredibly consistent with how they acted even when pressured by the two most vocal and (at the time) the two strongest voices in the game. Both of those were a realisation I made at the time, but didn't think was a strong idea but then after thinking a little bit and also testing the waters, I realised that yeah, they're probably just anti-town town. But anti-town town is still town. Hope this helps

[Flavor Leaf]

Psyche gotta oppose both his buddies’ lims today, makes sense.

doesn't this sort of reasoning make TL's persistence about calling me scum a problem for your readslist

no, they had to distance. That didn't start until after he left the two of you out of his lead rist.

[camelCasedSnivy]

not sure what originally sparked the wagon but their last few posts are obvious frustrated townie

dont mistake emotion for townieness.

i always will push emotion, almost out of principal.

[camelCasedSnivy]

whoops i accidently pressed submit

the premise, i believe, is that scum can fake emotions. i dont see that likely here

[TemporalLich]

VOTE: Psyche

blatant pocketing at this point trying to further undermine the town's confidence

pedit: real emotion is town though, so emotions are usually a townread

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Psyche

blatant pocketing at this point trying to further undermine the town's confidence

pedit: real emotion is town though, so emotions are usually a townread

Woah there, be careful. Mafia aren't emotionless

[TemporalLich]

Woah there, be careful. Mafia aren't emotionless

yeah, scum aren't emotionless but honest emotion is still a towntell regardless

[JacksonVirgo]

Woah there, be careful. Mafia aren't emotionless

yeah, scum aren't emotionless but honest emotion is still a towntell regardless

In my experience, it really isn't. What emotions would you consider town-telling?

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Psyche

blatant pocketing at this point trying to further undermine the town's confidence

pedit: real emotion is town though, so emotions are usually a townread

i disagree.

I get more genuinely emotional as scum, so while it could be more player associated, I'm actively against emotion on tell, because I have abused that as town in my older days, and it was just too easy to coast on.

Also, allowing it to happen and rewarding people for it is enabling it, and im against that as well, so when trying to convince me, I will never accept emotion as a valid defense.

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: Psyche

blatant pocketing at this point trying to further undermine the town's confidence

pedit: real emotion is town though, so emotions are usually a townread

i disagree.

I get more genuinely emotional as scum, so while it could be more player associated, I'm actively against emotion on tell, because I have abused that as town in my older days, and it was just too easy to coast on.

Also, allowing it to happen and rewarding people for it is enabling it, and im against that as well, so when trying to convince me, I will never accept emotion as a valid defense.

Glad we're agreeing on this. time to carry on

[Aisa]

Oh, I posted why like 2 pages after 368 but I'll restate it just cuz your avatar is cute.

The combination both them being concerned about appearances but at the same time told me they misrepresented me. If they were scum who was so concerned about appearances that they just shut down over pressure to not hurt their appeared charisma/standing, telling somebody you used a manipulation tactic is crazy. They were also incredibly consistent with how they acted even when pressured by the two most vocal and (at the time) the two strongest voices in the game. Both of those were a realisation I made at the time, but didn't think was a strong idea but then after thinking a little bit and also testing the waters, I realised that yeah, they're probably just anti-town town. But anti-town town is still town. Hope this helps

Oh you're right you did explain a little soon after
Thanks for re-explaining

[TemporalLich]

In my experience, it really isn't. What emotions would you consider town-telling?

frustration I'd consider town, but it is still easily faked

it's more that emotion indicates thought streaming which makes the mindset more obvious

[Flavor Leaf]

that's just one of those things people assume that isn't true.

like, there's more people who roll town because theirs more available, and people babies and cant handle pressure in a game revolving around different pressure and deceiving.

[Flavor Leaf]

In my experience, it really isn't. What emotions would you consider town-telling?

frustration I'd consider town, but it is still easily faked

it's more that emotion indicates thought streaming which makes the mindset more obvious

you seem to have a very black and white mindset on things. A Gray player will smoke you

[JacksonVirgo]

In my experience, it really isn't. What emotions would you consider town-telling?

frustration I'd consider town, but it is still easily faked

it's more that emotion indicates thought streaming which makes the mindset more obvious

Why can scum not be frustrated?

[Flavor Leaf]

In my experience, it really isn't. What emotions would you consider town-telling?

frustration I'd consider town, but it is still easily faked

it's more that emotion indicates thought streaming which makes the mindset more obvious

yeah this is just you assuming and projecting your own black and white mindset on your projection of how people play the game, not how they actually do.

[Flavor Leaf]

it's just bad practice to be an enabler for people using emotion as town too.

[TemporalLich]

well how else would I survive to Day 2?

if I don't thoughtstream, I'd be obvious scum

[Flavor Leaf]

well how else would I survive to Day 2?

if I don't thoughtstream, I'd be obvious scum

you care too much about this kinda thing.

[Flavor Leaf]

read people on their actions and motives, not emotion/tone. like emotion/tone/meta are supplementary things, end of the day it's about objective and purpose. zzzx has done absolutely shit this game

[TemporalLich]

read people on their actions and motives, not emotion/tone. like emotion/tone/meta are supplementary things, end of the day it's about objective and purpose. zzzx has done absolutely shit this game

It's Day 1, I can't read people based on mech

[Flavor Leaf]

and they are claimed vanilla, and we are 98 pages in a game with no claims.

it is objectively the best move.

Astonishes me why people think they have to catch scum no matter what on Day 1.

Fading a VT that could be scum on Day 1 generally leads to finding scum in the future easier.

We're risking more last minute claims at this point.

[Flavor Leaf]

read people on their actions and motives, not emotion/tone. like emotion/tone/meta are supplementary things, end of the day it's about objective and purpose. zzzx has done absolutely shit this game

It's Day 1, I can't read people based on mech

mech is a base line, but it isn't the end all be all either.

Day play and objectives above all.