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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:46 pm

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Here's the progression:
In post 742, Aristeia wrote:
In post 740, DragonEater70 wrote: Ari what are your up to date reads?

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kind of just waiting atp to see why Marci thinks I'm mafia and if Atsi will do anything other than show up every 2 days to say "dragon is mafia"
Holding onto a vote before anyone was even voting there feels to me like they were checking to see if this is a viable miselim.


I vote atsi:
In post 747, DragonEater70 wrote: Umm can we just lim atsi? I'm still having doubts about Skitter.
In post 748, DragonEater70 wrote: VOTE: atsi

Then this happens:

In post 750, Ausuka wrote: Ok nevermind dragon is probably just town lmao

UNVOTE:
In post 751, Ausuka wrote: why is marci scum

i don't really feel it

Maybe it's because we're cult together but shrug the fruit thing felt genuine and like she doesn't realise how fakeclaims work
In post 752, Ausuka wrote: VOTE: atsi

I think this is the best vote maybee
With like 0 reasoning. Just pushing an easy to push slot.

Then Ari waits for Marci's fabled scumread on her and when nothing actually comes out of it she just CASUALLY E-1's atsi:
In post 896, Aristeia wrote: VOTE: atsi

e-1
No reasoning given, none needed since she knew atsi was limbait and will be the lim for yesterday since town wasn't even trying (sorry but we really weren't trying that much)
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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:51 pm

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Anyway I still want to hear from Skitter if she still thinks Ausuka is town and also what's her read on Ausuka aside from the miller part (which I admit did sound convincing to me as well)
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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:50 am

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I think dragon eater is intentionally leaving out my reasoning for atsi which he even explicitly said sounded 'genuine' at the time
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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:13 am

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I said "it sounds like a genuine push, but am not sure why since it's 1.5 posts"

And yeahI dod think your tone was genuine at the time with the "maybeee"

But post flip it looks different.
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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:13 am

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In post 1028, DragonEater70 wrote: I said "it sounds like a genuine push, but am not sure why since it's 1.5 posts"

And yeah, I did think your tone was genuine at the time with the "maybeee"

But post flip it looks different.
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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:14 am

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I don't really recall any reasoning you gave, if you did then please enlighten me.
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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:21 am

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In post 894, Ausuka wrote: So re: what are we doing? This is a very good question.

Right now I don't want to eliminate marci. I don't particularly think she is scum here and I haven't seen a convincing reason why she would be other than behaviours I have seen town marci do many times over. I think ari and dragon are more likely to be town.

I described my ari read in and I don't think it's really changed tbh. I guess I liked her defending me, which potentially makes me pocketed but she felt like a heroine of justice saving the poor damsel in distress from evil datisi. I thought the elements/dragon slot could be scum for a long time, and that's like still possible? The turning point for me was when he like went in circles on the skitter read for a bit around ; it feels very earnest and unplanned and stuff. Like just chaotic energy. I think feels kind of good like he's with datisi on the detective team or something. I like his marci read also. I guess i am curious as to why he thinks my push on atsi is genuine? also i don't think i'm performative :cry:

Rn i do think it's in {atsi, skitter, datisi} as the most likely scenario. Could skitter and datisi be partners? I mean, maybe - it's not like impossible they would go to these lengths to distance. I think datisi knows skitter can take it and skitter knows datisi can take it. Datisi tying me to skitter felt weird and that would make sense if they were both scum. I think the main thing that makes me hesitate about this scenario is the way that, reading Datisi's ISO, I feel like with the gamestate the way it is he could just like... Go after other people in a way he's not been doing? Idk maybe I should be more hesitant to project the way I play scum onto other people, but I think most of the time scum datisi in this situation benefits from playing this more offensively, going after marci and me more aggressively etc. It creates more opportunities for him and most people instinctively townread more aggressive plays.

Datisi/atsi makes sense because the 'if we eliminate atsi today we are doomed and the world will end' is so ??? that i could see it as an attempt to like... make something so blatantly partnery that no one would ever think datisi would post it as a partner, which seems like a scumtisi thing to do. There isn't a lot here honestly because atsi hasn't had a massive presence in the game. I found it curious that datisi is saying he doesn't think skitter and atsi are partners, I guess, particularly as early as he did. I think skitter/atsi is like. Possible? I mean idk there's just not really a lot there.

Atsi could like maybe be town? I just don't get the sense there's much going on behind the scenes with atsi. I don't like how long he holds onto the miller thing as a substitute for a read on me, and a lot of his reads just feel... surface level I guess? Like he's doing the bare minimum. The push on marci can come from town, sure, but kind of feels like he knows marci is limbait and is trying to push her for being ScummyTM rather than scum if that makes sense? So yeah idk i think atsi is probably the best shot at hitting scum today; at least trying to read skitter and datisi feels much more labyrinthine to me whereas trying to read atsi feels relatively straightforward lmao.
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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:23 am

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idk if anyone answered the question but yeah i know most of the players in the game including datisi and ari
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:28 am

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In post 962, DragonEater70 wrote: It sounds a lot more feasible to me than town reacting tgat way when rolling miller x3 in a row tbh
I think this is bs tbh

He said absolutely nothing about this like the entirety of d1 when it was a topic of discussion and when atsi said the same thing he included it in the list of posts he didn't like
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:30 am

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i think i just overthought the dragoneater read in the first place

the thing he did with skitter can probably just be excessive self awareness in hindsight?

I do not really feel like it is datisi/aristeia

I would consider voting here but if skitter like Really Thinks it's dats/ari it is probably best not to I guess but i'm just not sure i see it
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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:31 am

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Idr if i noted it before but looking at d1 the "if I was scum against town skitter I would push her" just feels like a blatant lie to me

I've been there many times and like - I just don't think intimidating players get pushed very often at all. And when they do i think it's more often from town. It just does not seem particularly likely to me and i wasn't a fan of his skitter read anyway
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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:38 am

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what if aristeia fearkilled marci...

idk actually what was going on with the ari/marci interactions. i know ari is aware of marci's limbaitness, and maybe i should think it's weird that she expects marci to sit down and resolve datisi/skitter dispute because i cannot imagine marci doing that in seven billion years

but also i'm not sure even rereading her iso that i actually grasp what ari was thinking about marci at the time so like if u do wanna like explain it and stuff this is ur chance
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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:40 am

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i tried to read the temporal lich thing and get something out of it but like that entire phase of the game was so wild i'm not sure i can. like genuinely what the fuck was going on

i guess maybe dragon's vote for 'scumreading your own slot is scummy' is overexplained but idek if that's confbias atp
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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:41 am

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part of me wanted to say 'ari being angry is genuine' but also would scum ari really react super differently in that situation
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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:41 am

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In post 1036, Ausuka wrote: what if aristeia fearkilled marci...
um what
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:42 am

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if I'm mafia I just bring marci to elo because she might never vote and then I win by default
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:43 am

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In post 1039, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1036, Ausuka wrote: what if aristeia fearkilled marci...
um what
dont lie ur scared of her raw power

(i was joking)
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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:44 am

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In post 1040, Aristeia wrote: if I'm mafia I just bring marci to elo because she might never vote and then I win by default
I am kinda curious why you think she wouldn't vote tho
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:45 am

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In post 1042, Ausuka wrote:
In post 1040, Aristeia wrote: if I'm mafia I just bring marci to elo because she might never vote and then I win by default
I am kinda curious why you think she wouldn't vote tho
because she's literally never voted this entire game and doesn't look like she cares?
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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:46 am

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In post 1038, Ausuka wrote: part of me wanted to say 'ari being angry is genuine' but also would scum ari really react super differently in that situation
I don't think I was ever angry this game? I'm confused what you're talking about.

but if you want meta - I have absolutely no issues faking anger or any kind of emotion as mafia.
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:16 pm

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In post 1044, Aristeia wrote:
In post 1038, Ausuka wrote: part of me wanted to say 'ari being angry is genuine' but also would scum ari really react super differently in that situation
I don't think I was ever angry this game? I'm confused what you're talking about.

but if you want meta - I have absolutely no issues faking anger or any kind of emotion as mafia.
sorry angry might be the wrong word i was talking about your interaction with temporallich.
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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:19 pm

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ig if I'm mafia I probably just fake a scumread and hammer him after he claims?
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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:39 pm

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In post 1012, Aristeia wrote: i have a hard time convincing myself datisi is mafia sorry its probably just me
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:41 pm

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In post 1034, Ausuka wrote: i think i just overthought the dragoneater read in the first place

the thing he did with skitter can probably just be excessive self awareness in hindsight?

I do not really feel like it is datisi/aristeia

I would consider voting here but if skitter like Really Thinks it's dats/ari it is probably best not to I guess but i'm just not sure i see it
I don't Really Think it honestly

I'm leaning towards ari scum rn, that's all i got
Idk who kills marci, these nk's are bizarre
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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:42 pm

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I don't know why anyone kills infinity or marci here
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